Dr. Rachel McKinnon / Dr. Veronica Ivy / Rhys McKinnon / Rachel Veronica McKinnon / Foxy Moxy / SportIsARight - failed out of a tenured job, fat man who competes in womens sports, bougie landlord, ex"platonic life partners" with a fat pedo- moved home to canada in 2021

[Tragi-Chan]

Rhys's argument that some preferences are immoral because people might prefer such immoralities as pedophilia and animal torture is fallacious. It is pedophilia itself that is immoral, not the holding of such preference per se. In other words, Rhys tries to draw from the conclusion "some preferences are immoral" from the premises "preferring the immoral is a preference, and it is immoral". But this is a self-referential language game, and cannot be extended to genital preference, as neither the penis nor the vagina is problematic (or suberogatory) in itself.

Rhys’ suggestion depends on a person accepting that sexuality is a preference, as opposed to something immutable. Most people don’t, because it just doesn’t make sense. Why would a gay man in Saudi Arabia, say, continue being gay if he could simply become straight? Does Rhys honestly think he’s the first person in human history big-brained enough to figure this out?

He does, doesn’t he?

 

[Wallace]

Rhys’ suggestion depends on a person accepting that sexuality is a preference, as opposed to something immutable. Most people don’t, because it just doesn’t make sense. Why would a gay man in Saudi Arabia, say, continue being gay if he could simply become straight? Does Rhys honestly think he’s the first person in human history big-brained enough to figure this out?

He does, doesn’t he?

It would also imply that conversion therapy is possible, since preferences can be changed.

But yeah, as was said upthread, Rhys is Rhys-sexual. He's a troon to the extent that he can use it as both shield against the consequences of his actions and a sword to make others do what he says or to silence them.

 

[lecher]

Rhys' argument seems to rely on the idea, via Kant, that there exists a moral obligation to treat people as ends and not only as means. In other words, that it is immoral to equate the worth of a person with the value of their body (to you).

According to Rhys, to not want to have sex with a person because of their genitals reduces a person to their genitals, thereby treating them like means, which is therefore immoral.

Rhys' argument fails already because it is entirely possible to respect someone as a person and still not want to have sex with them. The only people who would think otherwise are incels and Nice Guys, honestly.

 

[capsaicin]

Rhys' argument seems to rely on the idea, via Kant, that there exists a moral obligation to treat people as ends and not only as means. In other words, that it is immoral to equate the worth of a person with the value of their body (to you).

According to Rhys, to not want to have sex with a person because of their genitals reduces a person to their genitals, thereby treating them like means, which is therefore immoral.

Rhys' argument fails already because it is entirely possible to respect someone as a person and still not want to have sex with them. The only people who would think otherwise are incels and Nice Guys, honestly.

Rather than being seen as an activity mutually participated in by two (or more) willing partners (e.g. "going on a road trip"), there's a strong perception of sex as a resource among incels. Furthermore, women's bodies are seen as public accommodations, similar to hotels that cannot legally discriminate to, say, only allow white guests to reserve rooms. Seen from this perspective, the "inequalities of the sexual marketplace" are perceived as a legitimate issue in need of redress, for a resource that grants social status, self-esteem, and importantly, validation is being disproportionately denied to one group but not another. And deny is the key word: there is something they are owed that they are not being granted.

From the perspective of anyone who does see women as humans, and not pools of resources, this of course sounds absurd and insulting. Sex is a mutual activity, not a resource. Women are human individuals with bodies over which they maintain control, not public goods. No one is owed sex, just as no one is owed an invitation to the Route 66 road trip that a couple of best friends are planning. But while we collectively agree that only the most entitled people would whine that "you still have two back seats left! Why can't I come? You always leave me out!" to join that road trip, there's a larger segment of society that whines (whether to extreme levels or just low-level self-pitying grousing) that they're not being allowed into a woman's body.

Now, swap "incels" to "trans."

Again, sex is seen as a validation resource. To argue that one demonstrates a moral failing by not agreeing to have sex with someone means that one is not providing something to which that person is owed, on some level. And thus, the targeted bodies of desire are dehumanized into mechanisms for providing the validation resource.

The trans people who make this argument try to argue that they're experiencing discrimination for their trans status, the same as incels find arguments that they're being denied sex for their mental health/race/height/income/whatever. But other people are simply leaving them out of a mutually enjoyable activity that requires enthusiastic consent from all parties, while the trans people/incels making these arguments are the ones truly engaged in dehumanizing perspectives.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Rhys' argument seems to rely on the idea, via Kant

It's suberogatory to demand Kant, you should be happy with any old asshole. (McKinnon 2019)

 

[OttoWest]

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[break these cuffs]

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lol what little bitch. What Rhys, no grand explanation of how you came to your enlightened view? You're just going to make some halfassed statement me all know is a lie and slink back to your condo with your bike seat between your legs. Where's teh fire and aggression you show when hitting women bikers on the track?

 

[Kosher Dill]

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It's quite obvious that this is a dodge and he just added asexuality to his list of non-suberogatory orientations. This is childish.

 

[A Pare A Teeth]

And, since he thinks that he personally is the finest piece of trans ass out there -- he imagines a wait list of epic proportions and also that all those hot lesbian undergraduates will be begging to sleep with the trans professor for some woke points.

Ta da!

https://mobile.twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1149066687305703424 / Archive

Again, sex is seen as a validation resource. To argue that one demonstrates a moral failing by not agreeing to have sex with someone means that one is not providing something to which that person is owed, on some level. And thus, the targeted bodies of desire are dehumanized into mechanisms for providing the validation resource.

And it’s not just sex, it’s women’s bodies by proximity, and women’s words, and women’s awards.
TRAs will never accept third spaces, or their own language, or seperate sports, or their own award lists because none of that validates them as ‘true and honest women’.
And even when they make up terms like trans women and cis women - to make men a subset of women - for some that’s still not good enough.
India Willoughby now identifies as a cis woman becauses he’s completed his transition.

https://mobile.twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1158364766706044936 / Archive

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

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Doesn't matter. Every other sexual orientation still has to include troons.

 

[KingElizabeth]

No way, he actually backed off for the first time. That must have been extremely painful to his ego, how this poor soul must have been suffering from all the negative attention and cannibalization from his former allies and cronies, that he had to stoop to the unthinkable and admit being wrong, even if indirectly.
Of course he isn't being genuine in the slightest. he only cares about the tweet and the fallout from it. So ridiculously transparent, it's hilarious.

 

[basilthebear]

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He couldn't even make it 10 fucking minutes. This is the Rhys we all know and love.

 

[sperginity]

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It's quite obvious that this is a dodge and he just added asexuality to his list of non-suberogatory orientations. This is childish.

He could even change it to "pansexuality is the only suberotagory orientation" and still technically say he no longer thinks pansexuality is the only moral orientation, since he has decided that suberotagory is not close enoug to "moral" to be equivalent. He wrote a whole fucking paper arguing this same thing. This is a cynical attempt to get on the good side of an outrage mob, and it will never work. It especially won't work when it took him so long to do it and blocked a bunch of people over it.

 

[Positron]

Chris: I'M WORKING ON IT!
Rhys: IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS!

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I just want to ask him, "Is pedophilia included in pansexuality?". If so, then pansexuality is not a moral sexual orientation. If not, why not?

It would also imply that conversion therapy is possible, since preferences can be changed.

But it is not conversion therapy, you know, if we convert a member of the oppressive majority to a member of an oppressed minority!

I said I found Rhys's nascent masterpiece passable at first brush. I take it back. Any philo paper should start by definition of terms. And for Rhys's case he has to define what exactly does he mean by "genital preferences". Glib as it is to say "things are not as simple as they seem", in this case a clarification is necessary. For what Rhys argues about so-called "genital preferences" is not literally "choosing one set of genitals in a sexual partner over another". A lesbian may opt for pussy, but she won't settle for any pussy. If the pussy belongs to Buck Angel, the lesbian's reaction might well be retching rather than arousal. A portion of gay men would indeed suck any dick and not caring what said dick attaches to, but I suspect such indiscriminate, genitals-only sexual focus is rare in people of other orientations. Even (straight male) johns care what the hos look like.

Incidentally this is why the feminist/gender studist rallying cry: "they objectify us and reduce us to our genitals" is bunk. Very rarely does someone consider their sexual partner solely as a set of junk, although genitals may shift in and out of focus at times.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

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And it’s not just sex, it’s women’s bodies by proximity, and women’s words, and women’s awards.
TRAs will never accept third spaces, or their own language, or seperate sports, or their own award lists because none of that validates them as ‘true and honest women’.
And even when they make up terms like trans women and cis women - to make men a subset of women - for some that’s still not good enough.
India Willoughby now identifies as a cis woman becauses he’s completed his transition.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1158364766706044936 / Archive

Not even grifter Brianna Wu aka John Flynt has the nerve to call himself cis. He walks the line but never crosses it.

 

[Positron]

Truth is "classic terf rebranded".

And the problem is?

Commiserating intellectuals:

Neither Zach nor Rhys know what forgiveness is like; forgiveness is for non-narcs.

Narcissists have a poor prognosis, and that's mean his therapist is not going to get rid of this monkey on his back.

 

[heathercho]

Truth is "classic terf rebranded".
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Neither Zach nor Rhys know what forgiveness is like; forgiveness is for non-narcs.

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Narcissists have a poor prognosis, and that's mean his therapist is not going to get rid of this monkey on his back.

There's nothing to "think" about. Trans"women" aren't female. A female is solely a biological female.
But au contraire, RHYS has changed his biomarker TO female. So his argument is moot, because troons have hijacked BOTH female and woman. Words have no meaning, but what if they still did?

"They think woman means adult human female" It does mean that. It means a "female human being", allowing freaks to claim it was a concession to true sissy fags who weren't 6ft tall and built like a log.

"They think transwomen are not female" A female is someone with X chromosomes. Which is why Troons have no right to ask for that F on their driver's license. It's factually incorrect.

Ergo, Transwomen, are Transwomen. There's nothing wrong with that term. It is exactly what they are.
They've transitioned from presenting as a man, to presenting as a woman.

Like a PVC handbag with Prado written on it, cannot be a leather Prada handbag, Rhys cannot ever, ever be a female.

 

[break these cuffs]

A female is someone with X chromosomes.

You've outed yourself as a tranny sleeper agent with this one @heathercho !

I'm a fucking idiot and read x chromosome.

 

[heathercho]

You've outed yourself as a tranny sleeper agent with this one @heathercho !

I'm a fucking idiot and read x chromosome.

We should Press XX to doubt Rhys' femininity.