Epic Games Store Exclusive - Yet another Exclusivity deal....for 2 mil

Secret Asshole

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Since the release of Epic Games Store, it's been poaching games from Steam. Yet another game has been made exclusive for one year: Pheonix Point


The creator of the original X-COM, Julian Gollop has endured a backlash after signing a Epic Games store exclusivity deal for his next title.

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Hotly-anticipated turn-based strategy game Phoenix Point, billed as a spiritual successor to the original X-COM, was crowdfunded to the tune of $765,948 by over 10,000 backers back in June 2017. At the time, a Steam key for Phoenix Point was promised to those who'd helped make the game a reality.

Fast forward to March 2019, and Phoenix Point is now exclusive to the Epic Games store for one year. While backers will get a Steam or GOG key after the first year in addition to their Epic key, they'll also get three DLC packs for free. Gollop is also offering a full refund to any backer who wants it.

Despite this, a cursory glance at the game's subreddit, Discord and social media shows backers are upset. Explaining the decision in a reddit AMA, Gollop said he had approached Epic about the possibility of signing a deal, and the money received would significantly benefit the game.

"It allows to commit more to the launch without risk, and more to supporting the game immediately post launch," Gollop said.

This AMA however, has fallen on deaf ears, and there's a real sense of discontent brewing within Phoenix Point's community. There are posts that accuse Gollop and Phoenix Point of being a scam, and there's even a drive to request refunds.

"I think what makes this particularly galling is how they basically used us backers for an interest-free loan," wrote redditor Spinecone.

"They took our money, developed to the point where it was mature enough to attract external investors, then totally changed the game plan and fully expect us to withdraw our cash, since they're now out of the high-risk phase of the project that nobody but us actual fans would back and have a mature product that's been guaranteed external funding.

"They conned us into lending them the money, and manoeuvred it so we'd be sitting on the bill if the development project failed. For a game that sold itself based on community involvement, with backer builds and all, this is just awful."

In a follow-up with Eurogamer, Gollop apologised to upset backers.

"For those backers who are upset by our switch of delivery platform, we are truly sorry," he said.

"It was not our intention to scam anyone. The best we can do is offer compensation in the form of free extra content, which we will deliver throughout the launch year. This will include at least three major DLC packs. They will also receive a Steam key or GOG key, in addition to their Epic key, at the end of the exclusivity period. If they are not happy with this, we will give a full refund."

Epic's bid to disrupt the PC game sales market and challenge Steam has proved a controversial one, with a raft of games suffering a backlash after ditching Valve's platform for Epic's. In the case of 4A Games' Metro Exodus, the fallout from ditching Steam for the Epic Games store got pretty messy.

The negative reaction to Phoenix Point is exacerbated, however, by the fact the project was crowdfunded and, with that, carries a set of expectations by those who've already forked out money to see it through to the end.

The Epic Games store is still in its infancy, of course, and it's not yet clear whether developers who sign exclusive deals with the platform for games that have previously had a presence on Steam see an impact on sales at launch.

Gollop told Eurogamer he expects the Epic Games store to have improved by the time Phoenix Point comes out, and doesn't expect the current trouble will negatively impact release.

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"I don't think the Epic deal will affect Phoenix Point on launch," Gollop said.

"By that time the Epic store will be more established, with more features. I know Epic are genuinely committed to building a store which is both developer friendly and consumer friendly, and they have some good ideas to make it more distinctive than alternatives."

And while Phoenix Point's community is shouting loudly on the likes of reddit, Gollop said he hasn't seen significant numbers of backers request refunds.

"We sent an email to all our 47,000 backers on Tuesday informing them about the Epic deal," he said. "The following day we had 1300 requests for refunds. The day after it increased to 1600. We don't anticipate that more than five to six per cent of our backers will actually request refunds in the long run."

Phoenix Point is due out September 2019.
As I suspected and said in previous threads, Epic is spending massive amounts to get exclusives. These developers basically said if everyone refunded, they'd still be in the black. It made basically 2 million and doubled its budget.

What makes this worse than Exodus, is that this was crowd funded and advertised as being on Steam and GoG and is now being forced to a worse platform. Even though it's a year long deal, hilariously, backers won't be allowed to use their Steam or GoG keys until that year deal is up. They are forced to use the Epic store.

If you don't see this as exploitation, you're a dumb nigger. They took a popular crowd funded title whose backers were promised a Steam or GoG ket when released. They won't get that for a year. They basically built up a following and then ditched them as soon as they could.

"Our intention was not to scam anyone"

Hahah you are such a dumb faggot. That's exactly what you did. You preyed on people's desire to play it on two platforms and then used the community which built you to force them to do something which they don't want to do for your benefit. They can't play on the platforms they want for a year for a benefit to you.

Also you are a fucking idiot if you don't think this will get tucked away into someone's pocket.

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I forgot to mention something even worse. Fig isn't your typical crowdfunding platform. Its an investor platform. So you get a return on the money you put in based on the copies sold. Since they're not going to Steam or GoG, they're limiting the number of copies they're going to move and the amount of money their backers are going to make by this decision. So they literally decided to fuck over their original investors because this game will not nearly push the amount of copies on Epic that it would on Steam or GoG. Also, none of that extra 2 mil or higher dev cut goes to the backers. Only copies sold. So this directly fucks them.
 
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Secret Asshole

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Yeah. Wasteland 3 is up there. Its basically a scam because to get your money back, you basically have to sell AAA numbers of your title. And crowd-funded games typically don't do that. By pulling out of Steam and GoG, its basically ensuring that they won't have to pay their backers jack shit, since I believe the payout period is timed. Conviently, just like this exclusive deal.

This was nothing short of a scam, using the desires of their backers and investors to get outside investment, pocketing tons of money, and fucking them all over by moving to an extremely unpopular platform that ensures poor sales. This makes them gain maximal profit while breaking their promises which got them the money in the first place.

To add fuel to this dumpster fire


For the surprise of absolutely nobody,it seems Tencent is spying every poor bastard who have installed Epic malware store
I remember people saying that telling me this would NEVER EVER HAPPEN and that EPIC WAS PURE because China only owned 48% of the company's capital and had no power over it. Fucking dumb faggots.

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There's also rumors Randy Pitchford is going to make Borderlands 3 Epic exclusive. But Randy needs to get on his knees to suck cock for money now that he's being sued and Gearbox is failing.
 
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Secret Asshole

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Well, Metro Exodus and Phoenix Point will be available on Steam in a year. Excepting anyone who pre-ordered Phoenix (unlike Metro) will be forced to use Epic. Exodus at least let their pre-order consumers get Steam keys.

How long until Epic's store is shuttered and these are available on Steam?
I think we're going to eventually see them stop doing exclusives eventually. I mean, this little indie was paid $2 million. Imagine what they paid to bigger titles like Exodus and Division 2. Tencent desperately wants a gaming store, which is why Tencent is putting so much Fortnite money in it.
 
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Murmur

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That's fine, that just means I get to try the "Free Extended Demo" that will inevitably be released by some salty sailors soon after launch, for a full year before deciding if I want to spend money on it. I sure hope I don't get bored of it within the year, or I might just forget to buy it.
 

Ponchik

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kinda hoped that phoenix point would be good since julian gollop actually did make like, two good games back in the 90s, but no apparently he's a greedy gremlin-lookin son of a bitch and nothing good is allowed to happen ever

at least we'll always have openxcom?
 

Oddjob OTP

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This reminds me that I'm still ass-hurt that Satisfactory is Epic exclusive. At least they seemed self-aware that they were doing it for the money and their fans would be understandably annoyed by it.
 
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The 8 of Spades

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To add fuel to this dumpster fire


For the surprise of absolutely nobody,it seems Tencent is spying every poor bastard who have installed Epic malware store
That's really fucking strange. I just had a run-in with Fiddler a week or so ago, I wasn't expecting to see it again so soon. A lovely little MITM to go with your free games I suppose. To anyone unfamiliar with it, here's some links:




ETA: Where's those two Kiwis who were defending EGS like they were getting paychecks?
 

The tired cat

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Their assholes got blown the fuck out because everything I said about Epic was right. IE: Chinese influence, massive payouts to get exclusives, operating at a loss, anti-competitive behavior that is anti-consumer.
Also apparently Epic only now has implemented a search engine into their store. To borrow a quote from Yahtzee "Wow! Save the innovation for the rest of us Da Vinci!"
 

vertexwindi

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Their assholes got blown the fuck out because everything I said about Epic was right. IE: Chinese influence, massive payouts to get exclusives, operating at a loss, anti-competitive behavior that is anti-consumer.
I'm a bit disappointed. With the recent news of this and Epic's launcher stealing Steam data without permission, I've been curious to see how shills would defend it.
 

The tired cat

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I'm a bit disappointed. With the recent news of this and Epic's launcher stealing Steam data without permission, I've been curious to see how shills would defend it.
Easy, go to Jimbos video about Epic and look trough the comments, I saw some aholes defend it.
 
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