Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

[JewishCensorship]

It was a joke made in response to a current (at the time) event. 12 years ago, and yes in modern day cancel culture, it looks terrible.

fair enough. I'll drop it

 

[Warkrieg Battlebournion]

If Crowder is smart (lol) he'll actually have the debate with Sam Seder just to put it to bed. The whole thing seems like a work to build this sort of thing up, but it's not like Seder is some sort of genius he's just a jewier and less interesting Jimmy Dore.

I completely disagree. If Crowder is smart, and still alive after his hearth surgery next week, he should most definitely not give sam who any air time ever. Fuck that piece of shit.
What does Crowder, or anybody who ignores the cunt gain from debating him? They don't gain face since sneeder is a literal nobody even in his own circles, they don't save face since sneeder has no following and whoever actually took Ethan's side in this bullshit has to be retarded and pretty worthless to have face with in the first place.
I first though it'd be pretty good optics if somebody took sneed on and then put him down, but that shit is just too obvious to happen. The true 42C Taekwondo Chinese Weaver Sportsball move would be to let sneed build up from whatever clout he'll get and then let any moron who'll waste their time on him be dissapointed as Ethan's and Hila's parents are probably dissapointed in them.
The circus never stops and there's no need to rick your dick in trying to stop it.
Also found this funny tweet almost randomly.

 

[AmazingEagle]

I completely disagree. If Crowder is smart, and still alive after his hearth surgery next week, he should most definitely not give sam who any air time ever. Fuck that piece of shit.
What does Crowder, or anybody who ignores the cunt gain from debating him? They don't gain face since sneeder is a literal nobody even in his own circles, they don't save face since sneeder has no following and whoever actually took Ethan's side in this bullshit has to be retarded and pretty worthless to have face with in the first place.
I first though it'd be pretty good optics if somebody took sneed on and then put him down, but that shit is just too obvious to happen. The true 42C Taekwondo Chinese Weaver Sportsball move would be to let sneed build up from whatever clout he'll get and then let any moron who'll waste their time on him be dissapointed as Ethan's and Hila's parents are probably dissapointed in them.
The circus never stops and there's no need to rick your dick in trying to stop it.
Also found this funny tweet almost randomly.View attachment 2291496

Or have Sam, Steven, and Ethan all debate each other at the same time.

 

[AssignedEva]

Btw I wasn't joking, Ethan literally got his Mum to be his cohost on Frenemies (albeit probably as a one off joke)

On the other point: Ethan, if you're reading this, I am begging you to have Contrapoints on as a guest and then surprise her with PhilosophyTube (who Contra has been avoiding since PhilosophyTube went nuts and decided to become a Contrapoints impersonator).

 

[Warkrieg Battlebournion]

Or have Sam, Steven, and Ethan all debate each other at the same time.

Fuck that clusterfuck. Instead have a caged death match with Ethan and Sam vs Crowder alone. Now that shit would be more entertaining that hearing Ethan trying to insult Crowder with his half assed libtard quips and Sam talking like a fucking snore, all the while Crowder is acting on max douchebag mode and leveling on a heart attack at the same time. It'd literally be the same shit that happened with the real debate, just extend the 5 minuted or so to an hour. It'd get dull.

 

[AmazingEagle]

Fuck that clusterfuck. Instead have a caged death match with Ethan and Sam vs Crowder alone.

Imagine Steven beating the shit out of Sam and Ethan, that I would pay money to see.

 

[All Cops Are Based]

Can you believe Crowder works with his dad?
So anyway, welcome to the show mommy

 

[Traummaschine]

It's pretty delusional to think that neutral audiences think Crowder came out of this looking good. Crowder is known for his debating, and also for mocking many of the people he disagree with (Especially professional faggot Carlos Maza). At least a few years ago this kind of ambush is exactly something you could see Crowder doing himself. He has no legs standing on trying to take the high road, he looked weak getting flustered by Seder showing up (even despite smelling something happening) and only mustering some weak insults about Seder's subscriber count, and in the end they made it look like Crowder was running away from Seder. What a glorious trainwreck.

 

[CervixHammer]

kinda of a copout, big dog. I'm legitimately curious of this (((context))) that exonerates Seder.

Roman Polanski had been arrested in Switzerland, which led to a petition for his immediate release signed by over 100 filmmakers, actors, producers, etc. because he's such a great artist and blah blah blah. The same Roman Polanski who pled guilty to having drugged and raped a 13-year-old, then fled the country before his sentencing. All the petition had to say about that was "His arrest follows an American arrest warrant dating from 1978 against the filmmaker, in a case of morals."

The full text goes on and on about how Polanski is "one of the greatest contemporary film-makers" and that he was in danger of being extradited to the US and losing his freedom, as if the real crime here is holding Polanski responsible for drugging and raping a 13-year-old.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

It was a joke made in response to a current (at the time) event. 12 years ago, and yes in modern day cancel culture it looks terrible.

Yes, but what you're forgetting is that taking it at face value is much, much funnier.

 

[Bolo]

It's pretty delusional to think that neutral audiences think Crowder came out of this looking good. Crowder is known for his debating, and also for mocking many of the people he disagree with (Especially professional faggot Carlos Maza). At least a few years ago this kind of ambush is exactly something you could see Crowder doing himself. He has no legs standing on trying to take the high road, he looked weak getting flustered by Seder showing up (even despite smelling something happening) and only mustering some weak insults about Seder's subscriber count, and in the end they made it look like Crowder was running away from Seder. What a glorious trainwreck.

I don't think any normie would see this as anything besides a trashfire all around, and it is usually the case with this bullshit internet debates, and trying to to determine who "won" is a meaningless exercise.

And let's be real, these "debates" ain't really debates, conversation or ideas, it is highschool bullying, and the one who first loses it's cool loses.

And looking just at the video, without all the twitter drama BS behind the scenes, Crowder came out looking bad because he was the one that lost his cool, and Ethan and that other asshole were clearly the ones doing the bullying, and since Crowder also plays this game, once he knew he was losing, he kept getting more and more frustrated and there you have it, that is the whole thing people get out of these "debates", no one remember a single word of what was said, only the reactions of the "debaters"

And there you have it, regardless of what each camp says with endless chants of the word "cope" in the end it is all about "who owned who", and I don't think anyone besides Crowder most fervent followers will care to see anything else besides this, and to be fair, he kinda had it coming, live and die by the sword stuff.

Sure, it would be funny if Klein got his karma for being such a snake, but if Karma worked Keemstar would have ass cancer, so instead Klein will only getting richer by being a scumbag.

So, if we are talking in ol "bloodsports" rule, then Klein won.

 

[CisnaHet Scumale]

I think Klein and Seder are huge cringelords but Crowder's behavior is so lolsy. Everything he did made it seem like he is a quivering loser who acts the complete opposite of the "change my mind", alpha male, debate me persona. Hilarious

Crowder should have his own thread

 

[shit talker]

Annnnd there it is. Why am I the opposite of surprised?

This guy thinks he's a better person than everyone else, lol.

The hardcore lefties always turn out to be extreme weirdos when they are exposed. I’d rather identify with the tiki torch party any day over this man. Anyway is this tweet real tho lol

 

[albert chan]

There was a time years ago when dudes crossdressing could actually be funny if it was done right. Today I immediately disregard just about anyone who is doing so, I can't believe they took this from us. For instance when Trey Parker and Matt Stone showed up to the Oscar's on acid and never once acknowledged the dresses, that was a funny fucking bit. Kind of off-topic but I think this whenever seeing Ethan indulge his fetish live on air.

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Also funny since Matt and Trey were reportedly on acid after this picture was taken. They mocked the Oscars while being on drugs at the Oscars. How meta of them.

Old news. I don't think someone should be cancelled for a joke they posted 12 years ago on twitter. I'm not going to debate over it.

Problem is, unlike you, these people don’t play by the same rules. They always think of political agendas and optics, not ever thinking about long term consequences when they don’t care for authority.

 

[Tiger Jack]

I completely disagree. If Crowder is smart, and still alive after his hearth surgery next week, he should most definitely not give sam who any air time ever. Fuck that piece of shit.
What does Crowder, or anybody who ignores the cunt gain from debating him? They don't gain face since sneeder is a literal nobody even in his own circles, they don't save face since sneeder has no following and whoever actually took Ethan's side in this bullshit has to be retarded and pretty worthless to have face with in the first place.
I first though it'd be pretty good optics if somebody took sneed on and then put him down, but that shit is just too obvious to happen. The true 42C Taekwondo Chinese Weaver Sportsball move would be to let sneed build up from whatever clout he'll get and then let any moron who'll waste their time on him be dissapointed as Ethan's and Hila's parents are probably dissapointed in them.
The circus never stops and there's no need to rick your dick in trying to stop it.
Also found this funny tweet almost randomly.View attachment 2291496

It's not even as if Crowder debating Seder would magically be the end of it anyway. Unless he humiliated Seder so hard that they wouldn't be able to spin it, Ethan and his goons would just chalk it up as another win regardless of the outcome, because they managed to bait him a second time.
Ethan is just going to keep poking Crowder until he gets the soundbite he needs to kill his channel.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

If Crowder wants to be a leader, he needs to be ready to debate anyone anywhere. His whine, "omg it's a trap" only appeals to his hardcore shills looking for cope. This attitude shows weakness and does nothing to convert moderates by making leftists look bad.

Crowder, despite his "Christian morality" is just a bully looking to punch down. He refuses to debate people who are on his level like Sam Seder.

 

[Therealhomor]

If Crowder wants to be a leader, he needs to be ready to debate anyone anywhere. His whine, "omg it's a trap" only appeals to his hardcore shills looking for cope. This attitude shows weakness and does nothing to convert moderates by making leftists look bad.

Crowder, despite his "Christian morality" is just a bully looking to punch down. He refuses to debate people who are on his level like Sam Seder.

Between this and your posts in the Smash thread about how blocking people on Twitter should be illegal, I'm notcing a recurring theme of you wanting people to be forced to interact with you and give you attention no matter how badly they don't want it. Sounds like you're projecting something...

 

[Sheryl Nome]

Can we put all this fucking Crowder talk into his fucking thread?

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/carlos-maza-gaywonk-versus-steven-blake-crowder-scrowder-voxadpocalypse.57064/

Its literally there for this shit, none of this 'Crowder looked some lefty smuck debate' shit is relevant to h3h3 at this point, its just politisperging

 

[Mr Cuddles]

Ethan is just going to keep poking Crowder until he gets the soundbite he needs to kill his channel.

If you are right about that which is quite possible. Then interacting with Ethan or anyone remotely connected to Ethan would be a stupid move on Crowder's side. I wonder if the people ITT who are keen for Crowder to debate are aware of that or disagree with your assertion.

Sheryl: This event involves Ethan as much as it does Crowder. By your logic any discussion of Jim's reaction to Sargon should be contained within Jim's thread and not Sargon's. You cannot possibly believe this, right?

 

[Sheryl Nome]

If you are right about that which is quite possible. Then interacting with Ethan or anyone remotely connected to Ethan would be a stupid move on Crowder's side. I wonder if the people ITT who are keen for Crowder to debate are aware of that or disagree with your assertion.

Sheryl: This event involves Ethan as much as it does Crowder. By your logic any discussion of Jim's reaction to Sargon should be contained within Jim's thread and not Sargon's. You cannot possibly believe this, right?

I only have annoyance after like 5 pages of solely talking about crowder and seder