Ethan Ralph had a warrant for his arrest issued on 08-Nov-2021 for violating Faith's restraining order - Arraignment has been set for 24-Jan-2022. May have posted bail remotely?

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That's a good point that he's been through the system before but from the way he was speaking it sounded as if the tablet thing was something new to him.

I'm curious why there's speculation that he'd be getting locked up at all for this recent development. It's only a class A misdemeanor, which is typically only punishable by a year in county jail. Factor in the standard 2 for 1 good behavior credits (you only receive this for misdemeanors) and possibly 3 for 1 if he decides to do trustee work, he's only looking at 4 months tops.

He could simply not return to California because there's no way they will extradite him across the country for such a petty crime. I've seen cops decline to extradite someone more than a county over for the same degree of crime.

Also, I'm pretty sure the court would happily just take his money and tell him not to do it again or consequences will never be the same.
Sadly, I don't believe any of this will result in a fresh Jail Saga. We're just going to have to wait for the CPS/Wellness Check Saga for the really spicy content
It shouldn't be, in the sense that he should be well aware that the items you can get are not what are available on the outside. He should know this because catalogues in correctional facilities have had a lot of computers and other types of tech for years, it's all the same low quality, high-priced, see through plastic stuff that those tablets are.

I believe the Revenge Porn charges are in VA, which is where Ralph lives. His charges for the breach of the restraining order are in CA.

In relation to the Revenge Porn, I think the chances of him catching jailtime is relatively high. As others have pointed out - Ralph was given a chance with this one, for some crazy reason, and he managed to fuck that up. Four months sounds about right, but I am no expert on these things and I would not be surprised, given Ralph may be the first person in VA to go down for this crime, if they seek to make an example of him.

Point is, he is dead to rights in terms of being guilty. He has squandered his chances. He messed with the teenage mother of his child even after releasing this sex tape and he has a prior record. The court will not look kindly on him, and given that jail time is available I think he will catch some.
 
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It shouldn't be, in the sense that he should be well aware that the items you can get are not what are available on the outside. He should know this because catalogues in correctional facilities have had a lot of computers and other types of tech for years, it's all the same low quality, high-priced, see through plastic stuff that those tablets are.

I believe the Revenge Porn charges are in VA, which is where Ralph lives. His charges for the breach of the restraining order are in CA.

In relation to the Revenge Porn, I think the chances of him catching jailtime is relatively high. As others have pointed out - Ralph was given a chance with this one, for some crazy reason, and he managed to fuck that up. Four months sounds about right, but I am no expert on these things and I would not be surprised given Ralph may be the first person in VA to go down for this crime, if they seek to make an example of him.

Point is, he is dead to rights in terms of being guilty. He has squandered his chances. He messed with the teenage mother of his child even after releasing this and he has a prior record. The court will not look kindly on him, and given that jail time is available I think he will catch some.
If I had to hedge a bet I would say he'll get 4 months for the revenge porn; I think they'll threaten him with a year and a half and he'll plea out to get 4 months to feel like a win and to get him to take the deal. I think he'll get maybe a year or two (call it a year and a half) of probation for the CA shit.

At the very least this is going to eat tons of his money and time for legal fees and court shit. And even with the money from his Flurk sale he can't keep fighting all these stupid legal battles he gets himself in.

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If I had to hedge a bet I would say he'll get 4 months for the revenge porn; I think they'll threaten him with a year and a half and he'll plea out to get 4 months to feel like a win and to get him to take the deal. I think he'll get maybe a year or two (call it a year and a half) for the CA shit.

At the very least this is going to eat tons of his money and time for legal fees and court shit. And even with the money from his Flurk sale he can't keep fighting all these stupid legal battles he gets himself in.
Is the CA stuff really going to be that much worse for him?

I would have thought that was comparatively minor?

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Breaking a CA restraining order is 1-Year Max.

To be honest, and I cannot stress how ignorant I am of this, I feel like breaching a restraining order by Tweeting is a pretty low bar for a breach. I doubt he would be jailed for calling her pussy loose. Fuck, if you breach it in a violent manner you would get 3 years, so it's a huge jump in between.
 

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Four months sounds about right, but I am no expert on these things and I would not be surprised given Ralph may be the first person in VA to go down for this crime, if they seek to make an example of him.

Point is, he is dead to rights in terms of being guilty. He has squandered his chances. He messed with the teenage mother of his child even after releasing this and he has a prior record. The court will not look kindly on him, and given that jail time is available I think he will catch some.
The thing is, 4 months is the worst case scenario. 6 if they won't let him go trustee because of his assault on an officer, which is possible. Ralph can do that standing on his head either way.

A big factor that I think will sway the judge into giving him probation is his upcoming babby. While yes, to a normal person, having two kids back to back with different women is reprehensible, the judge is going to consider the harm a jail sentence would cause Guntling 2: Equine Pigaloo.

Ralph is the sole provider for their household. 6 months of playing dominos in county isn't going to scare Ethan straight. So what would be the point in forcing a pregnant woman with no job to fend for herself? To "slam the book" on someone who posted someone's butthole on the internet? Would a judge consider that to be justice? Maybe, but I doubt it.

The wisest decision would be to give him probation so that Ralph really knows that any mistake will result in his time served on probation being revoked and still having to go do six months away from his newborn.
 

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As much as no jail time would suck, a long probation term is almost better because he’s going to be under pressure not to fuck up and be accountable for himself. Even better if he’s not allowed to leave the state and has a bunch of other restrictions. He’s definitely going to fuck up and get locked up anyway.
Legend has it some crims prefer serving a short sentence over a long probation for those very reasons.
 

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As much as no jail time would suck, a long probation term is almost better because he’s going to be under pressure not to fuck up and be accountable for himself. Even better if he’s not allowed to leave the state and has a bunch of other restrictions. He’s definitely going to fuck up and get locked up anyway.
Legend has it some crims prefer serving a short sentence over a long probation for those very reasons.
We also can't rule out whatever judge this comes in front of sees the amount of shit-stirring that the Vickers clan did the year leading up to the case and just throw everything out. Both sides of this argument are equally fucked in the head.
 

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As much as no jail time would suck, a long probation term is almost better because he’s going to be under pressure not to fuck up and be accountable for himself. Even better if he’s not allowed to leave the state and has a bunch of other restrictions. He’s definitely going to fuck up and get locked up anyway.
Legend has it some crims prefer serving a short sentence over a long probation for those very reasons.
A short jail sentence would benefit Ralph the most, despite it not being the most optimal of situations. A restricted diet, forced detoxing and a break away from the internet might actually save the fat slob from his impending death. Maybe if he goes away for 6 months, much of the bullshit surrounding him will dry up. Vickers can move on and focus on his family, Faith can focus on her son and Pantsu can focus on finding a dentist.
There's an old saying that goes "how can I miss you if you don't go away?". Quite frankly, as entertaining as it has been to laugh and mock Ralph's retarded antics, it's only a matter of time before Ralph either dies or ends up in prison for something REALLY serious and ends up serving a lengthy sentence. Then the show is over and I'd rather wait 4-6 months for Ralph to come back with new vigor than for the curtain to drop.
 

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We also can't rule out whatever judge this comes in front of sees the amount of shit-stirring that the Vickers clan did the year leading up to the case and just throw everything out. Both sides of this argument are equally fucked in the head.
Exactly. The judge is going to weigh every possible part of the case. I also find it extremely amusing that he will also have to watch the video and then look Ralph in the eyes. Ralph will be felted but the judge will be vicariously gunted.
(That's a decent lolcow themed band name.
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The thing is, 4 months is the worst case scenario. 6 if they won't let him go trustee because of his assault on an officer, which is possible. Ralph can do that standing on his head either way.

A big factor that I think will sway the judge into giving him probation is his upcoming babby. While yes, to a normal person, having two kids back to back with different women is reprehensible, the judge is going to consider the harm a jail sentence would cause Guntling 2: Equine Pigaloo.

Ralph is the sole provider for their household. 6 months of playing dominos in county isn't going to scare Ethan straight. So what would be the point in forcing a pregnant woman with no job to fend for herself? To "slam the book" on someone who posted someone's butthole on the internet? Would a judge consider that to be justice? Maybe, but I doubt it.

The wisest decision would be to give him probation so that Ralph really knows that any mistake will result in his time served on probation being revoked and still having to go do six months away from his newborn.
It will depend on the judge, it will depend on the Vickers and it will depend on Ralph.

I really think, had Ralph pled in the first instance he would have just got probation. It's too far gone now, one of the main factors you are forgetting is the victim: Faith. Now sure, to us she's an unstable BPD teen - but to the judge she is a victim of a sex crime, who at the time was in a mental health crisis centre. While Ralph is the strange man who groomed her online, isolated her from her family , released a sex tape of her before impregnating her and promptly giving her an ultimatum about helping raise the child. Yet don't put Ralph in jail because he does not want his current baby momma to be to be a single mother for a few months, when he happily subjected his victim to that very same fate?

If I was a judge, I would think Ralph's actions speak for themselves. The actions of the Vickers would not even be brought up, what relevance do they have to the revenge porn case? None, the evidence of what he did is open and closed, it's a slam dunk. There's nothing to it, it was filmed live. The question at hand is more the sentencing, and while I would think the Vickers' actions would not be allowed to be talked about in court, I think some - if not all - of Ralph's behaviour would be relevant. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt the court would allow Ralph to put the Vickers on trial.

I would add, Ralph does not think he will walk - the nervous energy he gives off with his fervent denials of any possibility of him going to jail speak volumes.
 
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It will depend on the judge, it will depend on the Vickers and it will depend on Ralph.

I really think, had Ralph pled in the first instance he would have just got probation. It's too far gone now, one of the main factors you are forgetting is the victim: Faith. Now sure, to us she's an unstable BPD teen - but to the judge she is a victim of a sex crime, who at the time was in a mental health crisis centre. While he is the strange man who groomed her online and isolated her from her family, released a sex tape of before impregnating her and promptly giving her an ultimatum about helping raise the child. Yet don't put him in jail because he does not want his current baby momma to be to be a single mother for a few months, when he happily subjected his victim to it?

If I was a judge, I would think Ralph's actions speak for themselves.

I would add, Ralph does not think he will walk - the nervous energy he gives off with his fervent denials of any possibility of him going to jail speak volumes.
I fear you're treading dangerously close to being sympathetic to Faith. Personally, I don't think anyone is a victim in this situation other than Xander. He's a tiny bundle of innocence being deprived essential bonding time with his father because both of his parents are retarded fuck ups.

Actually, I feel a bit of sympathy for the younger Vickers kids. Those kids have been having to hear about their dramatic tweaker sister's leather cheerio video for months now. That's kind of fucked up.
 

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I hope the Vickers are pulling a Ron Toye and hired someone to watch ralphs stream/Twitter to catalog everything for presentation. It'd be amazing if they air hours of his retarded self-incriminating comments to the courtroom. I don't have high hopes, though. For some reason, internet lawsuits tend to ignore tons of helpful lore.
 

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If I was a judge, I would think Ralph's actions speak for themselves. The actions of the Vickers would not even be brought up, what relevance do they have to the revenge porn case? None, the evidence of what he did is open and closed, it's a slam dunk. There's nothing to it, it was filmed live. The question at hand is more the sentencing, and while I would think the Vickers' actions would not be allowed to be talked about in court, I think some - if not all - of Ralph's behaviour would be relevant. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt the court would allow Ralph to put the Vickers on trial.

I would add, Ralph does not think he will walk - the nervous energy he gives off with his fervent denials of any possibility of him going to jail speak volume
You k ow what's really great? The cherry on top? If ralph fucked his case this bad it's probably because the tactic he used out of court of whatabouting and insulting the vickers was in his mind a perfectly valid legal tactic as well as a spergstream one
 

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You k ow what's really great? The cherry on top? If ralph fucked his case this bad it's probably because the tactic he used out of court of whatabouting and insulting the vickers was in his mind a perfectly valid legal tactic as well as a spergstream one
He would show up drunk on court then spin it as alpha behavior before the Guilty veredict and the impotent spergout.
 

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I fear you're treading dangerously close to being sympathetic to Faith. Personally, I don't think anyone is a victim in this situation other than Xander. He's a tiny bundle of innocence being deprived essential bonding time with his father because both of his parents are retarded fuck ups.

Actually, I feel a bit of sympathy for the younger Vickers kids. Those kids have been having to hear about their dramatic tweaker sister's leather cheerio video for months now. That's kind of fucked up.
It doesn't matter what I think, but it does matter what the court thinks. What judge in the era of #MeToo, and with the move towards a broader understanding of domestic abuse, both in wider society and within he justice system, is going to look at Faith who was 19 when she ran off to Guntsville only to get knocked up by an alcoholic felon and think she is as responsible as the 34 year old man who brought her there?

It's not even about being sympathetic really, more that one was a vulnerable BPD headcase fresh out of high school that ran away from home, and the other was a 34 year old man. I mean, you don't even need to know the details to fill in the blanks here. Ralph should have known better, in fact I guarantee Ralph did know better - but he's a selfish fat retard who cares more about who is going to sit on his 2 incher than the dire consequences that are inevitably coming to him. She was a retarded high schooler who unironically said things like "I'm quite mature for my age" when addressing people questioning why she ran away. If your with a girl who is saying that, she's too young.
 

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It doesn't matter what I think, but it does matter what the court thinks. What judge in the era of #MeToo, and with the move towards a broader understanding of domestic abuse, both in wider society and within he justice system, is going to look at Faith who was 19 when she ran off to Guntsville only to get knocked up by an alcoholic felon and think she is just as much a victim as Ralph?

It's not even about being sympathetic really, more than one was a vulnerable BPD headcase fresh out of high school that ran away from home, and the other was a 34 year old man. I mean, you don't even need to know the details to fill in the blanks here. Ralph should have known better, in fact I guarantee Ralph did know better - but he's a selfish fat retard who cares more about who is going to sit on his 2 incher than the dire consequences that are inevitably coming to him.
The Gunt is going to lose this case. Guaranteed.
 

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I fear you're treading dangerously close to being sympathetic to Faith. Personally, I don't think anyone is a victim in this situation other than Xander. He's a tiny bundle of innocence being deprived essential bonding time with his father because both of his parents are retarded fuck ups.

Actually, I feel a bit of sympathy for the younger Vickers kids. Those kids have been having to hear about their dramatic tweaker sister's leather cheerio video for months now. That's kind of fucked up.
This would be such a sure shot if it was any other woman then Faith.
But i supose if it was any other woman she wouldn't end up with a guntling.
 

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The thing is, 4 months is the worst case scenario. 6 if they won't let him go trustee because of his assault on an officer, which is possible. Ralph can do that standing on his head either way.

A big factor that I think will sway the judge into giving him probation is his upcoming babby. While yes, to a normal person, having two kids back to back with different women is reprehensible, the judge is going to consider the harm a jail sentence would cause Guntling 2: Equine Pigaloo.

Ralph is the sole provider for their household. 6 months of playing dominos in county isn't going to scare Ethan straight. So what would be the point in forcing a pregnant woman with no job to fend for herself? To "slam the book" on someone who posted someone's butthole on the internet? Would a judge consider that to be justice? Maybe, but I doubt it.

The wisest decision would be to give him probation so that Ralph really knows that any mistake will result in his time served on probation being revoked and still having to go do six months away from his newborn.
Ralph has never met Xander, let alone attempted to parent him. He will be over the moon for any excuse to get away from guntling #2 once it arrives and he discovers what living with (let's not pretend he will actually parent) a newborn is like. And newborns are the Very Easy Mode of parenting. You are making the assumption that Ralph is capable of bonding with May's baby, and I'm afraid that's not better than a fifty-fifty chance.