Ethan Ralph / TheRalphRetort - Host of the aborted #Killstream, mixes liquor and xanax

ScamL Likely

Avant-garde Autism
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All he has to do is put on a good show and I'll watch it. I wouldn't want him doing anything different than what he's doing now, aside from keeping Rand on a tighter leash. Nobody in the regular Killstream audience would revolt if Rand wasn't allowed to talk over guests and go on long-winded rants about unrelated issues when there's a topic being discussed.
Potentially true, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of ex-viewers aren't as forgiving as you.
 

Liquid Cool

Radness in a Pouch
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Potentially true, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of ex-viewers aren't as forgiving as you.
Nothing else has come along as a viable competitor. People like nightly news/drama/interview shows. I’m really shocked no one came along to poach the potential viewer base.

Current Ralph is way closer to the “golden-age era” of the Killstream. If he ditches Rand it’s basically the old show (minus Zidane and Gator)
 

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Kind of depends on what you take as a reference really. For the remaining of the pillstream, yeah you're probably right.
For ex-viewers? The vote might turn the other way around.
Does Ralph want to hold onto the remaining piggies he got or does he want to convince a bunch of ex-turned-"aloggers" around, I'm sure he's gonna clutch to whatever remains of the dumpster that is the pillstream and keep Rand on.

I think Rand did alright as a caller, just not as a cohost. The guy is too fucking incoherent and dumbfounded, almost all his takes are stupid.
The main problem with Rand, not even getting into his truly exceptional politics, as a co-host instead of a caller is that as a co-host there is an expectation that someone takes his side or at least indulges him no matter how fucking loud he is about being as dumb as he is. As a caller, it's easy for anyone to call him a moron and say "ok, call back another time when you sober up Rand" when he's going off the rails

I mostly agree, but the idea of chasing after ex-viewers seems sisyphistic in general. There's no guarantee that a significant portion of them will ever come back no matter what he does because I'm sure plenty of them are sick of him at this point. It might be reasonable to assume that he could get 5-20% (being very generous with that upper estimate) of them back by making adjustments, but whether that's worth it or not is more subjective than it might seem.
He doesn't need to chase after ex-viewers, but he should be concerned about expanding the audience to anyone other than the current audience at some point in the future. Dick is willing to throw him a bone for some excellent exposure here and there but Rand will piss all over any fire that might be about to catch from that.

The existing audience has been with Ralph through all of his worst moments. They'll stick around after Rand is gone. And what are Rand's numbers on his own streams anyway?
 

Streetlight Stranger

Reaper in Training
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Ralph show works far better when its the callers spouting /pol/ memes, not the co-hosts. I'm also still bitter because Rand was one of those people who disliked Kiwi Farms because we were doxxxers. I'll be damned if I could find an archive, but there was one show he called into (I want to say it was around the Metokur stuff or maybe related to Zugzug being stupid and doxing himself) where he stated that any site that is apolitical like KF (I know we aren't apolitical, but we at least manage to draw a community from both sides of the aisle) will inherently be hijacked by leftists. He then went to the conclusion that KF would be taken over by leftwingers who would use it as a platform to dox and ruin the lives of poor, innocent rightwingers.

I can't remember if I even had an account on KF at the time, but I could still see how exceptional his argument was. If you look at the type of ship Null runs the site could remain neutral far longer than any other service on the net. The point is the funny, not what side of the aisle you fall on, and if lefties and rights alike came to KF with the intent to dox their enemies they would likely be called out, and doxed themselves for trying to start personal armies.

I might try to look through KS archives to see if that clip is around, but I'll be damned if I can find it again.
Looking back on callers, who do you guys think was the worst caller, or most lolcowy? Not including guests, as there were some cards that came to the show, but actual callers. I always thought @ZugZug was the most exceptional, as he proceeded to call us harassers then make an account here and be a regular poster for a while. There was also that time where he argued that swimming in a pool with HIV/AIDS would cause you to get it, and that the pool's closed meme was related to that. He vehemently denied the proof presented and refused to watch the Internet Aristocrat video on the pool's closed topic.
 

Shady Attorney

I rebuke that demonic spirit!
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Come back to this thread to see that after @theralph said he’d never show back up on this thread, decides to come back to this thread

I’m not really sure what’s still interesting about watching a slob talk about the news when his takes are based around what other groups say is and isn’t okay. The only interesting bits of the show were the drama, the guests feeding the drama, and Zidan for actually having different opinions
 

BandAid

Don't bleed there are sharks in the water
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I'll be damned if I could find an archive, but there was one show he called into (I want to say it was around the Metokur stuff or maybe related to Zugzug being stupid and doxing himself) where he stated that any site that is apolitical like KF (I know we aren't apolitical, but we at least manage to draw a community from both sides of the aisle) will inherently be hijacked by leftists. He then went to the conclusion that KF would be taken over by leftwingers who would use it as a platform to dox and ruin the lives of poor, innocent rightwingers.
I am pretty sure the show you are thinking of was the stream on the same day as Jim's dox stream. Rand called in while Josh was on the Killstream, he sort of softballed Josh and said he would not engage with someone who held the opinion that doxing was not wrong but had no political reason for saying so. Rand said that he held a politically diametric opposition to doxing as when the left is doxed, they lose nothing but when the right is doxed they lose jobs, are jailed, etc.

Josh went on the Killstream to basically back up Zed's dox of Metokur and explain that the dox were real and the way they were dropped was trash. Rand said he would not even try to argue with Josh because he could see that Josh would not change his position on doxing.

Rand also said that he was afraid of engaging with Josh at all, in the situation that he said something that hurt Josh or lit him up in some way he was afraid Josh would get hs forum to harm or dox Rand. Josh said he would never use the Kiwi Farms as a weapon.

I believe it aired 10/18/18 or 10/19/18, but I do not have an archive of that episode.
 

Gravityqueen4life

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Trig.Point

I wouldn't start from here.
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A good chunk of chat still likes rand and wants to see more of him. He probably shouldn't be on more "serious" shows but wrangling him too hard when he does show up might split the current audience.
Was it that hard to wrangle him though? Ralph muted him at one point, and when he was let back on seemed to have taken it ok, almost as if he's used to being told to shut up.

I watched the Flamenco live stream he did with Josh, and Flamenco didn't seem to have any problem keeping him in his box. Actually that stream was really good, Rand, Josh and that guy who did the Chris Chan documentary were all at the top of their game.
 

L desu

Marine trained autistic teen
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Actually a pretty good killstream tonight. Had no idea there was gonna be a debate before I clicked to dlive. Missed most of the news section so I don't know how that went but the debate felt like classic killstream. More shows like this, the comicsgate episode and the Boulderversary and I could be back watching at least a few times a week.
 
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MediocreMilt

Ooh good comeback... Moron
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Actually a pretty good killstream tonight. Had no idea there was gonna be a debate before I clicked to dlive. Missed most of the news section so I don't know how that went but the debate felt like classic killstream. More shows like this, the comicsgate episode and the Boulderversary and I could be back watching at least a few times a week.
I just don't want to watch on dlive. I could more like afford a monthly subscription fee to a platform than could I afford some asshole website's crypto-miner burning out my hardware.
 

Flamenco

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Was it that hard to wrangle him though? Ralph muted him at one point, and when he was let back on seemed to have taken it ok, almost as if he's used to being told to shut up.

I watched the Flamenco live stream he did with Josh, and Flamenco didn't seem to have any problem keeping him in his box. Actually that stream was really good, Rand, Josh and that guy who did the Chris Chan documentary were all at the top of their game.
I don't remember, Rand was pretty chill during the episode. That episode was mostly great thanks to really great guests and Gator being a very capable host.

Is this based on something besides Jim making a crypto mining joke last year? Dlive runs perfectly fine.
Basically Dlive runs on a pseudo-cryptocurrency, but not one that needs mining. Basically, think poker chips at the casino, you exchange money for them and cash out when you are done. This has been used to attack dlive (by twitch parnters mind) but unless they change the rate of exchange, I don't actually see how the claims of scam are valid. Apparently Dlive's staff REALLY didn't like the allegation of coin miner, it's something their prospective partners need to know isn't a thing to apply.
 

Hamsteroid

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Is this based on something besides Jim making a crypto mining joke last year? Dlive runs perfectly fine.
When the Killstream was looking for a new home after getting banned from Youtube, the first stop was DLive. Back then the site was so utter garbage, that it was nearly impossible to watch and a lot of viewers reported on a higher than average strain on their systems.
That and the crypto lemons made people believe that there's a miner working in the background.
 

MediocreMilt

Ooh good comeback... Moron
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Is this based on something besides Jim making a crypto mining joke last year? Dlive runs perfectly fine.
When the Killstream was looking for a new home after getting banned from Youtube, the first stop was DLive. Back then the site was so utter garbage, that it was nearly impossible to watch and a lot of viewers reported on a higher than average strain on their systems.
That and the crypto lemons made people believe that there's a miner working in the background.
Pretty much this.

My machine, which is normally silent watching video and watching streams on YT and Stream Me, would turn into a jet engine when I kicked on a dlive stream.
 
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