Ethan Ralph's December 16th, 2020 Revenge Porn Arrest & Trial - Trial outcome: Ralph pled No Contest, was found guilty and has a 1yr suspended sentence (not probation).

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What will happen?

  • Plea deal with no jail time

    Votes: 56 25.0%
  • Plea deal with jail time

    Votes: 44 19.6%
  • Guilty with no jail time

    Votes: 31 13.8%
  • Guilty with jail time

    Votes: 37 16.5%
  • Not guilty, alawgs btfo'd, Can't Abort the Retort!

    Votes: 33 14.7%
  • Ralph aborts himself

    Votes: 19 8.5%
  • Other (explain in post)

    Votes: 4 1.8%

  • Total voters
    224
  • Poll closed .

AMHOLIO

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He'll be a good boy at very least until that happens. He has no practical knowledge of how stressful it can be to have a newborn in your home. Guntling 2 is going to drastically change his life despite him clearly having no desire to change for the better.
I haven't been keeping up with Ralph but I was under the impression that Ralph sees everyone around him are props and supporting cast members rather than things he couldn't replace or fire.
 

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A "no-contest" plea isn't an admission to guilt. It's a plea of "I'm not saying I'm guilty or not guilty, I simply do not have the will or means to fight the charges in court". Even though it results in the same as a guilty plea initially, it makes a huge difference if someone is planning to file an appeal. An appeal of I couldn't fight the charges, the judge was a member of that goddamn pedophile farms ya hona, is easier to appeal than to admit guilt and try to walk it back.
 

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A "no-contest" plea isn't an admission to guilt. It's a plea of "I'm not saying I'm guilty or not guilty, I simply do not have the will or means to fight the charges in court". Even though it results in the same as a guilty plea initially, it makes a huge difference if someone is planning to file an appeal. An appeal of I couldn't fight the charges, the judge was a member of that goddamn pedophile farms ya hona, is easier to appeal than to admit guilt and try to walk it back.
It's so difficult to appeal a no contest, that it's generally understood that you can't appeal it. And he's not going to try because it'd be expensive and Ralph has a Challenger Mustang Sentra to buy. It's an admission of guilt without having to actually admit guilt.
 

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It's so difficult to appeal a no contest, that it's generally understood that you can't appeal it. And he's not going to try because it'd be expensive and Ralph has a Challenger Mustang Sentra to buy. It's an admission of guilt without having to actually admit guilt.
Yeah, I said it was easier, not easy. It can be done, especially if the convicted party is willing to let his lawyer basically call them a retard in court. That or be willing to throw a fellow attorney under the bus.
In any event, it wouldn't benefit Ralph to file an appeal. He might as well take what basically amounts to a year probation and keep a low profile.
 

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I have to ask isn't ralph the same guy who constantly talks about how he's got money and how he's uber rich
why does he have to buy a second hand car then?
Ralph is the same guy who would call you a goddamned piece of shit faggot motherfucker and then hollar over you if you asked him that question, sir. The answer is that horse-grooming and Xanax addiction is expensive.
 

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I have to ask isn't ralph the same guy who constantly talks about how he's got money and how he's uber rich
why does he have to buy a second hand car then?
whats baffling is i think hes paying new prices almost for them for years,

I haven't been keeping up with Ralph but I was under the impression that Ralph sees everyone around him are props and supporting cast members rather than things he couldn't replace or fire.
"now ill tell you what, ill tell you what some rando i found to replace the other randos, that broke dick gawert daymned pedo at the farms that i dont give a single fuck about said that its weird my child is no longer on the killstream, says the TODDLER, can you believe it? the toddler according to pedo null who probably wants to fug my kid the pedo says the toddler is distancing themselves from me and the killstream! ill have you know i had them on for near a year but not anymore because suddenly i care about the weirdos here seeing my kid and i suddenly care about privacy and their well being over ratings (buy the merch with theirs and xanders face btw ill throw in some hair too) , yeah that sounds like a good enough excuse for these dumbshits to not figure out i gave that little shit away, foolproof. YOU CAINT FUCKING ABORT BITCH!"

poor little xandra is going to be tossed to the street dumpster and claimed by some alog who wants to sire a heir to the killstream throne.
 

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I haven't been keeping up with Ralph but I was under the impression that Ralph sees everyone around him are props and supporting cast members rather than things he couldn't replace or fire.
He does but I believe he will have a serious bout of cognitive dissonance upon holding his daughter for the first time. Sadly Guntling 1.0 is going to be about 180 lbs. by the time he gets to hold him.
 

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Can Faith bring a civil suit against Ralph, and with him pleading no contest, wouldn't the civil suit be a slam dunk for Faith/Mr Vickers?
 

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Can Faith bring a civil suit against Ralph, and with him pleading no contest, wouldn't the civil suit be a slam dunk for Faith/Mr Vickers?
No because the no contest plea can't be used against him.

No because Faith is a BPD whore who has suffered no actual damage from being Gunted, she's just as worthless as she was before

Vickers is not going to sue Ralph in a civil court in virginia, as funny as it would be. The lawyer who signed their name to a filing that pointless is a dope.
 

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Can Faith bring a civil suit against Ralph, and with him pleading no contest, wouldn't the civil suit be a slam dunk for Faith/Mr Vickers?
The sole advantage to a no contest plea is that it can't be used as evidence against you in a civil proceeding. If the Vickers actually flew across the continent just to pussy out and let him get away with that bullshit, they're idiots and pussies.
 

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The sole advantage to a no contest plea is that it can't be used as evidence against you in a civil proceeding. If the Vickers actually flew across the continent just to pussy out and let him get away with that bullshit, they're idiots and pussies.
I know this is a shitpost and can be deleted or moved or whatever but lol I thought you might get a kick out of this for its absurdity considering his recent car purchase.
 

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This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps! I think I can use that.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FEED THEM SCRAMBLED EGGS! still makes me laugh to this day. Based Goodman.

Back on topic: does Ralph have an uphill battle still with his other cases or is it still bare its own merits regardless of this no contest ruling? I think it was mentioned that this can't be used anyway because its ex post facto or something to that end or am I getting my facts wrong?
 

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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FEED THEM SCRAMBLED EGGS! still makes me laugh to this day. Based Goodman.

Back on topic: does Ralph have an uphill battle still with his other cases or is it still bare its own merits regardless of this no contest ruling? I think it was mentioned that this can't be used anyway because its ex post facto or something to that end or am I getting my facts wrong?
It can't be used because a guilty plea requires you actually admit to and testify to being guilty in a proceeding called an "allocution of guilt." Since you don't do that in a no contest plea, it isn't conclusive evidence by itself. The adverse party in the civil suit can still prove whatever they want to prove by other means, they can't just point to a guilty plea, because there wasn't one.
 

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It can't be used because a guilty plea requires you actually admit to and testify to being guilty in a proceeding called an "allocution of guilt." Since you don't do that in a no contest plea, it isn't conclusive evidence by itself. The adverse party in the civil suit can still prove whatever they want to prove by other means, they can't just point to a guilty plea, because there wasn't one.
I think primarily what I was getting at is that does this hurt his future custody chances if he chooses to seek them or is the court supposed to disregard them out of hand?
 

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I think primarily what I was getting at is that does this hurt his future custody chances if he chooses to seek them or is the court supposed to disregard them out of hand?
No. The party contesting custody can still use the underlying facts, they can't just point at a guilty plea and have an automatic presumption that the Gunt actually did what he was accused of. They can still argue that he is a revenge pornographer who committed the revenge porn crime, but they have to prove it with actual evidence, rather than just relying on a guilty plea.

It costs more money to do this and takes more effort. But even in a case where you did have a guilty plea, and the perp's behavior was as reprehensible as this white trash piece of shit's behavior was, you'd probably still want to enter actual evidence into the case to show what a complete piece of shit he was.

The vileness of the Gunt's behavior is much more compelling than a few words on a piece of paper declaring him guilty of violating some specific statute.

The advantage of the nolo plea here is pretty minimal, actually, considering you'd want the jury to achieve maximum revulsion by showing them the shit-sniffing thumb scat video to ensure they hated him as much as humanly possible before they asked the judge why they couldn't sentence someone to the electric chair in a civil suit.
 

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No. The party contesting custody can still use the underlying facts, they can't just point at a guilty plea and have an automatic presumption that the Gunt actually did what he was accused of. They can still argue that he is a revenge pornographer who committed the revenge porn crime, but they have to prove it with actual evidence, rather than just relying on a guilty plea.

It costs more money to do this and takes more effort. But even in a case where you did have a guilty plea, and the perp's behavior was as reprehensible as this white trash piece of shit's behavior was, you'd probably still want to enter actual evidence into the case to show what a complete piece of shit he was.

The vileness of the Gunt's behavior is much more compelling than a few words on a piece of paper declaring him guilty of violating some specific statute.

The advantage of the nolo plea here is pretty minimal, actually, considering you'd want the jury to achieve maximum revulsion by showing them the shit-sniffing thumb scat video to ensure they hated him as much as humanly possible before they asked the judge why they couldn't sentence someone to the electric chair in a civil suit.
I wonder if this is part of his "master plan" in regards to moving to Vegas possibly so he could be close enough to drive with visitation rights and yet indulge in his stupid lavish fantasies. That sort of makes sense to me but who can accurately tell. It all seems like it's a plan that will backfire in someway though.
 

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I wonder if this is part of his "master plan" in regards to moving to Vegas possibly so he could be close enough to drive with visitation rights and yet indulge in his stupid lavish fantasies. That sort of makes sense to me but who can accurately tell. It all seems like it's a plan that will backfire in someway though.
It is an easy bet that whatever the Gunt does will be epic fail.
 

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This will be my last post to this site, because there is no longer a need for additional posts. I’ve already tweeted about the plea from the victim’s perspective, and that was met with a lot of retarded theories. So, let me try to break down some simple math from the defendant’s perspective instead:

You’re a defendant in Richmond, VA on trial in the Juvenile/Family District Court. You have a plea of Not Guilty entered onto the record. You’re about to go on trial (a bench trial) for what is colloquially known as “Revenge Porn.” The victim and their father are in the office of the Deputy District Attorney, ready to testify.

Fact 1) If you go through the trial, there is a 0% chance you will be going to jail. Why? Because bench trials in the Juvenile/Family District Court can be automatically vacated on appeal to the General District Court for a Jury Trial if you don’t like the outcome. Read that very carefully: there is a 0% chance of you going to jail…even after the testimony of witnesses, all the proof they can muster, confession, no confession. You won’t even have to testify. Your attorney is super smart, so they told you this. This trial is basically pointless. Unless…

Fact 2) There is, by definition, a >0% chance that you could be found Not Guilty. No conviction, no plea. No suspended sentence. You’re done and out. You won.

Your attorney is supposedly a shark. The victim is there and ready to testify, and the only hope that you have is to attack her credibility. Your attorney is going to punish her on cross examination. Possibly make her angry. Try to twist the situation. Your attorney may succeed, or may not, but one thing is for certain, your attorney is going to make that cross examination a very unpleasant experience that your victim will likely not want to repeat.

Fact 3) Something like 80% of all Class 1 Misdemeanor Convictions get a sentence of a maximum 12 month suspended sentence. Your attorney is smart, they’ve undoubtedly explained this to you.

All of the sudden, the Deputy District Attorney approaches and offers a 12 Month Suspended Sentence in exchange for a No Contest plea. The court will find you guilty of the crime, and you will forfeit your right to appeal.

Now, you have two options:

Option 1) You advise your attorney to tell the DDA to pound sand. You are, at present, in NO DANGER of going to jail. Alternately, you have at least some chance after your shark attorney tears apart the victim’s credibility of getting a Not Guilty verdict and never having any punishment. You consider that the victim lives on the other side of the country. The victim is the single mother of an infant, and the victim’s father is also a witness. Traveling across the country is an expensive endeavor, to speak nothing of the fact that it is a giant pain in the ass. Plus, you now know that they are willing to offer a suspended sentence in exchange for a plea of No Contest, which is 80% the likely conviction that you would get anyway if the court finds you guilty…on your initial plea of Not Guilty (which is also a plea where you do not profess your guilt). A jury trial may increase your chances of getting away free, and if the jury comes back with a guilty verdict, you MAY be able to appeal again (I do not know this for certain—but two chance are better than one). Or…

Option 2) You accept the plea, willingly allowing the court to find you guilty of the charges that have been filed against you. You plead No Contest so you don’t have to profess your guilt, which you never did to begin with because your original plea was Not Guilty. You accept the mostly likely maximum punishment (80% chance) that the court will hand down if you were to fight as hard as you could, without even putting up a fight. You willingly give up your chance to appeal the decision of the court. You give up your only chance to be found Not Guilty and have no conviction. You effectively turn your shark attorney into a guppy.

If you are the victim, you would have to be absolutely retarded to not offer that deal. You would get the most likely outcome of a conviction (remember…80% of Class 1 Misdemeanor convictions result in a sentence of exactly what you’ve offered) for free, and your victimizer willingly relinquishes not one, but TWO chances at a Not Guilty verdict.

If you are the defendant, you would have to be absolutely retarded to accept the plea, whether you are guilty or not. To accept Option 2, and claim it as a win, and actually believe that you won only proves how little you thought about the offer.

Now let’s add to the plate for our hypothetical defendant.

Let’s say that you have an upcoming hearing for a DV TRO that the same victim has filed against you, with the main point of that order being the claim that you committed “Revenge Porn” against them. You were able to delay on the basis that you had a criminal trial upcoming. We’ll, that’s over. You might still be able to Plead the 5th amendment to not incriminate yourself, and that’s the only way you were able to keep pushing the case out. But that case is over now. There are no more delays, and you will be asked questions by the judge about the nature of those claims. You had a chance to be able to tell that judge that you were acquitted of those charges. Not now. You willingly threw that away.

Let’s also say that you have two misdemeanor charges for violating the restraining order above…for harassing your victim. An acquittal really would have helped fight those. But not now. You willingly threw that away.

But, we’re not finished! You also keep boasting about seeking paternity of a child that you claim you have with the victim. An acquittal really would have helped show that you had a shot at visitation…supervised or otherwise (if you’ve talked to any family attorneys then you know any hope of actual custody is a fucking joke). But not now. You willingly threw that away.

For those last three hypotheticals, you can argue to yourself that a No Contest plea has no effect even though you have a conviction. But what is the difference between a No Contest plea and a Not Guilty plea if both come with a conviction? Neither is an admission of guilt (that’s why appeals exist…except for you…because you gave away that option). No matter how much you tell yourself this conviction won’t hurt the hypotheticals, the only real truth is that IT WON’T HELP!

You shot yourself in both feet, both hands, and your dick. But because you didn’t get carted right off to jail that day, you consider it a win. Except, as we’ve already covered, there was a 0% chance of that happening anyway.

You did not win. You lost. You not only lost, but you lost in the fastest, easiest way possible, giving away multiple chances at a potential of acquittal.

That’s not a cope. That’s just math.

Have a good life, everyone.