Explaining stuff to Chris... -

[teheviltwin]

For Chris to ever understand what he's doing wrong he needs the situations to be explained in a way his speshul mind can understand. If you told him to look at something from a another person's perspective/point of view he would just literally imagine what they see from their physical position. He would not know that they think differently to him. If something doesn't offend him he will struggle to understand that it might offend someone else unless you describe it visually. He will also assume people already know the intent behind his actions.

So for a laugh I put together this little comic strip to explain the PVCC attraction sign incident. It's overly simplified and exaggerated to get the point across and probably full of typos.

WARNING: contains eye-gougingly terrible absolutely genius and utterly ripped off 100% original 'toons.

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[CatParty]

he's goofus with out a gallant

 

[Cwckifan]

All things considered, that is a very accurate and effective way of seeing it...

 

[Henry Bemis]

Hmm yeah.

 

[applecat]

Unfortunately, Chris would be far more likely to see these comics as a personal attack on his character from a Dan Dirty Troll and draw his own comic where you get brutally executed.

 

[teheviltwin]

Unfortunately, Chris would be far more likely to see these comics as a personal attack on his character from a Dan Dirty Troll and draw his own comic where you get brutally executed.

Absolutely, I just found it fun to draw it from the other perspective and conversation comic strips are a common learning tool for autists...

...

When they're 5 years old.

 

[Bridechu]

This is a pretty great comic for its purpose. We used the Goofus and Gallant cartoons as learning material in special ed combined with discussion. In this case, someone would have to sit down with Chris, have him read the comic, and then ask him things like "How would you feel if a woman said you were not boyfriend material because of your physical appearance? Would you feel good if someone told you to jump off a cliff? Why do you only want a white girlfriend? Why do you feel this way?" Trying to get autistics to empathize with others and see things from their perspective is like pulling teeth sometimes, but often they get it.

Chris, however, has been too wrapped up in his own head for too long. I think he's beyond the point of truly empathizing with people. He'd see this as trolling and propaganda against autistics.

 

[teheviltwin]

Chris, however, has been too wrapped up in his own head for too long. I think he's beyond the point of truly empathizing with people. He'd see this as trolling and propaganda against autistics.

He's also ridiculously detail oriented. So he'd probably sit there and whine that he wasn't wearing that top when it happened or that the detail on the sign is slightly altered.

 

[Marvin]

Chris, however, has been too wrapped up in his own head for too long. I think he's beyond the point of truly empathizing with people. He'd see this as trolling and propaganda against autistics.

Well, depends on how Chris gets it. If Chris just saw it here, he wouldn't pay attention to it. But this is a troll haven, so that's not unreasonable. If someone he trusted gave it to him, he'd consider it. Really, it's simple enough that he can understand it and that's what's necessary. Chris is a simpleton and couldn't understand how other people think any other way.

 

[Christ-Chan]

I find it interesting that all the women in the comic are doing their best Kimmi impersonations.

 

[teheviltwin]

I find it interesting that all the women in the comic are doing their best Kimmi impersonations.

Dem lips are made for sumfin...

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

No offense, but I feel like that's kinda bogus.

I went to college with a guy not entirely unlike Chris. Smelly, awkward, weird, Asperger's kid. I used to let him hang out in my room and play my XBox when I wasn't around. He'd do weird stuff every now and then. Never once did it occur to me, or anybody I knew, that "Oh man, Shane's being weird again, I can't concentrate on my studies!" or "Oh look, Shane drew another bizarrely proportioned naked Angelina Jolie and put it on his wall where it's plainly visible to people walking by in the hall, how disrespectful."

Just seems like kind of a stretch to me, or people looking to be offended for the sake of being offended. To me and everyone else I knew it was just "Oh, the weird kid is being weird again. That's sure weird. Also, it affects me not at all."

Lots of colleges are places where straight up rape happens and literally every weekend is dripping with quite literal solicitations for sex in much less ambiguous terms, but the resident smelly weird kid doing something weird is somehow worse or affects people's ability to study?

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Lots of colleges are places where straight up rape happens and literally every weekend is dripping with quite literal solicitations for sex in much less ambiguous terms, but the resident smelly weird kid doing something weird is somehow worse or affects people's ability to study?

Oh my god, Chris should have gone to a university! Then his solicitations for sex would have fit right in and gotten positive responses.

Bob ensured his virginity throughout his 20's by sending him to a community college.

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

There's probably some rule or technicality that he violated. I teach college, and our campus has a designated zone for protests and demonstrations, both by student groups and visiting groups (the latter are usually freaky evangelical Christians of some type). If he went to the school where I work, Chris could have sat there all day with his racist sign and only dealt with repercussions from whatever students happened to actually read the damn thing. If, however, Alternate Universe Chris had wandered ten feet outside the boundaries of that zone with the same sign, he would have been approached by campus police and told to get back in the zone or leave. I can easily believe that he violated some kind of rule about the contents of publicly displayed signs at PVCC. However, now isn't the best time to ask Dean Walsh, so we may never know what rule it was in particular.

 

[stablefable]

I'm sure he'd read them and dismiss them. Those people just didn't understand how hard it is for a high-functioning autistic to approach girls directly. They might have a boyfriend and then he'd get rejected. Furthermore, socialization online is dangerous and full of trolls, so clearly the sign is his only recourse.

 

[teheviltwin]

"Oh man, Shane's being weird again, I can't concentrate on my studies!"

It's exaggerated to explain something difficult to grasp to a person who has the emotional age of a tantruming toddler. If you went with something realistic like "That makes me slightly uncomfortable. Oh look, I got 30 likes on my new facebook pic." he wouldn't learn anything. To explain why racism is bad to someone with that level of critical thinking would take forever.

 

[fridgesrants]

The comic was entertaining. I laughed at the specific words in bold. To bad Chris will never learn how to listen to criticism and improve himself.

 

[CalmMyTits]

No offense, but I feel like that's kinda bogus.

I went to college with a guy not entirely unlike Chris. Smelly, awkward, weird, Asperger's kid. I used to let him hang out in my room and play my XBox when I wasn't around. He'd do weird stuff every now and then. Never once did it occur to me, or anybody I knew, that "Oh man, Shane's being weird again, I can't concentrate on my studies!" or "Oh look, Shane drew another bizarrely proportioned naked Angelina Jolie and put it on his wall where it's plainly visible to people walking by in the hall, how disrespectful."

Just seems like kind of a stretch to me, or people looking to be offended for the sake of being offended. To me and everyone else I knew it was just "Oh, the weird kid is being weird again. That's sure weird. Also, it affects me not at all."

Lots of colleges are places where straight up rape happens and literally every weekend is dripping with quite literal solicitations for sex in much less ambiguous terms, but the resident smelly weird kid doing something weird is somehow worse or affects people's ability to study?

I think the comic was a great idea. I can see what Butta Face meant, but this comic was not designed for normal-minded people, I think the dialogue in that comic is appropriate for a slow in the mind, so that kind of dialogue was necessary. I've seen material like this in school used as teaching aids, and the dialogue would fit right in there, along with the pointers at the end of the comic designed to remind/reinforce the lesson.

However, I think that at this point, and I'm not trying to be A-loggy, but given how close-minded Chris is, he might (and might only) learn from a harsh system of rewards and punishments. Put a shock collar on him and when he behaves improperly, the collar delivers a painful shock.

He has shown that trying to explain something to him is useless. Anna explained to him that the troll's ploy from last year about posting flyers was nothing but a ploy, she had to explain several times and he still didn't get it. Jackie and Kacey both tried their damnedest to help him and often explained exhaustively (and repeatedly, and in clear terms) about this or that, and he still did not fucking get it.

At 31, his bad behavior is so ingrained that I think it would literally have to be shocked out of him to have any effect on his understanding.

 

[sparklemilhouse]

*sniff*

That comic was beautiful. You have great skills, especially the way you interpreted Chris.

 

[cubesandcubes]

I think what the comic is trying to do is encourage critical thinking and the development of a theory of mind.