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ExceptionallyExceptional

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Replaying FO3 via TTW with a buttload of mods. It really is nice to have the NV crafting system, iron sights, hardcore mode, and all the other shit you get with NV.

One thing I always wondered about Fallout 3 was who the actual fuck are Talon Company? Where did they come from? Why do they have such good standardized equipment? And I think I finally figured it out.

We know that Talon Company is on a continuing mission to make sure the Capitol Wasteland stays a lawless, disorganized place. Even if you don't piss off Burke doing too many good deeds and getting your karma too high eventually attracts their attention. And even if you play as an evil character you'll probably end up fighting them at one of the locations they'll pop up at across the waste, and you can still get them sent after you by Burke if you disarm the Megaton bomb even with high Karma. So it's obvious they're not just The Regulators but for bad guys because The Regulators only appear if you end up with evil Karma or if you access their headquarters with the Lawbringer perk, but Talon Company has a physical presence in the waste regardless of your karma or perks.
So who benefits from the Capitol Waste staying lawless? Well, The Enclave does. Makes it much easier to take over a wasteland that isn't unified. It explains why Talon Company is trying to take the Capitol building, a place the Enclave itself shows up to take during the events of Broken Steel. It also explains the standardized surplus US Army Combat Armor that every single one of them wear. Sure Rivet City and Tenpenny Tower have enough suits for their guards, but Talon Company have enough for an army. That shit has to come from somewhere, and the Enclave just makes sense. They, like the Brotherhood, are a remnant of the US Army. And we know early on the Brotherhood did have many suits of US Army issue Combat Armor for their soldiers. Stands to reason the Enclave did too, but it was completely phased out after the introduction of the Advanced Power Armor MKI, and later the MK2.
So the Enclave fund Talon Company with old surplus equipment and send them to hunt wannabe heroes, fuck with the wastelanders, and try to secure prime targets.

I also figure they were buying a lot of the steel from the Pitt to manufacture their armor and vertibirds. Just makes sense to me.
 

Snekposter

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Combat armor wasn't phased out in the Enclave. It was relegated to second line units such as interior garrisons at their bases for the obvious reason of being good enough to handle just about anything that wasn't a heavy weapon.
 

ExceptionallyExceptional

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Combat armor wasn't phased out in the Enclave. It was relegated to second line units such as interior garrisons at their bases for the obvious reason of being good enough to handle just about anything that wasn't a heavy weapon.
By the time of Fallout 3 it's been completely phased out, even the Enclave's interior garrison at the mobile crawler had MKII Power Armor.
I still think it's a sensible theory.
 

Snekposter

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Considering the guards at Raven Rock and the mobile crawler are elite guard troops protecting high value targets that's rather different from the situation I was describing.
 

draggs

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By the time of Fallout 3 it's been completely phased out, even the Enclave's interior garrison at the mobile crawler had MKII Power Armor.
I still think it's a sensible theory.
Combat armor was still used by the US military in 2077 and later by the Enclave, soldiers are wearing it in the Fallout 4 cinematic, it's in Operation: Anchorage in FO3. It's in Navarro and the Sierra Army Depot in Fallout 2...
 

ExceptionallyExceptional

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Combat armor was still used by the US military in 2077 and later by the Enclave, soldiers are wearing it in the Fallout 4 cinematic, it's in Operation: Anchorage in FO3. It's in Navarro and the Sierra Army Depot in Fallout 2...
Again, they seem to have phased it out entirely by 2277 as we see no Enclave personnel wearing it after the destruction of Control Station Enclave. At all.

Granted it is possible they do have some soldiers we never see wearing it, but it's also just as likely they used it as payment to Talon Company for a few jobs like securing the Capitol building. Especially if they ARE buying steel from the Pitt to create more suits of APA MKII, why the fuck keep the old suits when you have more than enough new ones?
 
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Dr. Geronimo

Echo chambers are bad for your health.

I'm never too big on these big mods due to how inconsistent the VO quality is, but this seems like a big deal for some people.
 

I'm never too big on these big mods due to how inconsistent the VO quality is, but this seems like a big deal for some people.
Apparently there's some shit show on /v/ over a lizard people faction and the stream was taken down because people wouldn't quit bothering about it or whatever along with politics about the Legion and NCR, something Trump supporters. I wouldn't know didn't watch the stream personally though, I think the mod looks alright.
 

capitalBBustard

Who is this man?
One thing I always wondered about Fallout 3 was who the actual fuck are Talon Company? Where did they come from? Why do they have such good standardized equipment?
Lmao, they're dudes to kill if you have good karma. There's no thought put into them beyond that. Rando faction of color coded meanies that can't handle the existence of niceness, fodder for combat encounters.
 
Apparently there's some shit show on /v/ over a lizard people faction and the stream was taken down because people wouldn't quit bothering about it or whatever along with politics about the Legion and NCR, something Trump supporters. I wouldn't know didn't watch the stream personally though, I think the mod looks alright.
I watched the stream before they deleted it.
This post sums up some of the things that were said during the last 30 mins of the stream.
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Another choice quote missing is the "Kojima was are inspiration" and them banning people on discord over this
 

Ruin

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I watched the stream before they deleted it.
This post sums up some of the things that were said during the last 30 mins of the stream.
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Another choice quote missing is the "Kojima was are inspiration" and them banning people on discord over this

I mean to be fair Fallout 2 had a talking deathclaw that wanted to be a porn star and cross dressing super mutants. Fallout 1/2 were silly as hell and I think there's a decent argument to be made that Fallout 3/4 took themselves way too seriously and somewhat suffered for it.

Fallout New Vegas had fisto the sex robot and a cult of ghouls that flew to the moon on a homemade rocket. Lizard people aren't too much of a stretch.

Tl,dr The Frontier looks fun and I'll probably play it despite political spergs reeeeeeeeeeing.
 
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Snekposter

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No. Not FISTO. The Fully Integrated Security Technotronic Officer. That said, the funniest part of the quest was James Garret being so shamelessly "I hate those damn robo-fetishists (where's my goddan sexbot you dumb-ass Courier) that is totally not for me but those vile degenerates who love fucking metal (now where the fuck is my, no their sexbot)"
 

Ruin

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Has anyone played The Frontier yet? The Nexus reception is very mixed but I'm not sure if that means anything because Nexus posters are generally bitchy reddit tier tards.
 
Has anyone played The Frontier yet? The Nexus reception is very mixed but I'm not sure if that means anything because Nexus posters are generally bitchy reddit tier tards.
One thing I heard is that TF is too focused on combat and the action sequences, to the extent where it feels like a cowadoody campaign at times. Which I'm kind of curious about because F3/F:NV have pretty goddamn horrendous FPS combat to build an entire shooting gallery around it, so I wonder how TF handles it.
 

Ghost of Wesley Willis

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Has anyone played The Frontier yet? The Nexus reception is very mixed but I'm not sure if that means anything because Nexus posters are generally bitchy reddit tier tards.
I've already put a couple hours into it and I consider it to be a well made mod that gets ruined by some of the edgy original character donut steel NPCs, ridiculous cutscenes that felt unnecessary, and the occasional railroading that can put Bethesda to shame.
 
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