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FluffyTehFennekin

Ultimate autist
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Wait, is age regression like in Dragonball GT where Goku gets turned into a little boy, or like in Elfen Lied where Lucy becomes retarded infantile and pisses on the floor repeatedly after a head injury?

Apologizes for the weeb references, they were the first things that came to mind.
it’s like that, but with more diapers and thinly-veiled ABDL/DDLG themes.
basically, the fanfic equivalent to DeviantArt tier diaper porn. BUT IT’S TOTALLY INNOCENT AND NOT SEXUAL IN ANY WAY!
 

FitBitch

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I don't have a lot of hard and fast rules on this, but I read fanfiction because I actually like the established characters, God help you if you break my immersion by taking a character out of character.

If there's not a very well established personality a writer can get away with their own internally consistent concept of the character, i.e. whatever personality anyone tries to impose on Link (though in gay ships I put my foot down at whimpy/effeminate Link, it's a gay ship, no one has to "be the woman"). But they have to be consistent within the story and decisions and character arcs should make sense to the reader based on information we've been given about the character. I mean, that just goes for regular writing as well as fanfiction.

But if the character is very concrete with completed arcs that shape their personalities, I have a lot less tolerance for them breaking character in a straightforward setting.

AU's get a little more leniency though, like I said, no hard and fast rule but I know it when I see it and it can ruin a whole story for me.
 
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Evian Les Rutabaga

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Why do people even read fanfic or even moreso why do they even make it?
As FitBitch said, sometimes I want to read more stories about the established characters (or in some cases, the established characters at a certain point in their character arcs). Sometimes, it's the world/setting that has room for more stories. In many ways, long-running comic book properties and movie tie-in stories are literally "fan fiction" (In the past I might have added, "but with editing and some attempt at continuity", but I'm not getting paid to lie.)

Sometimes reading fanfic is just like candy: terribly bad for you, but fun while it lasts.

Writing fanfic can be good practice for writing fiction. The writer isn't creating the world and existing characters from scratch, but on the other hand, they should be analyzing those subjects to know which to use and how to use them most effectively in the new story. A fanfic Original Character requires almost all the same development work as any other OC. The same goes for settings added to the world unless pulled in for a crossover.

It's even fun when other fans of the original property let you know they enjoy what's been written. It's less fun when the comments left by readers are as nasty or creepy as some of the feedback the original writers get.


Sturgeon's Law still applies, along with all its corollaries.

Where things get weird: When Culture Warriors overhaul an original property, 90% of everything produced is crappier than the fan fiction.
 

Doctor Placebo

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Where things get weird: When Culture Warriors overhaul an original property, 90% of everything produced is crappier than the fan fiction.
This, TBH. We're living in an age where so many major franchises are basically official fanfiction anyway. Fanfiction writers do as good or better than Disney, Sony, and Viacom. Fanfiction writers are usually immature, sexual deviants, and sometimes have terrible spelling and grammar or are flat out insane, but at least they actually give a shit about the properties they write for.

And even though fanfiction is only rarely good, sometimes it still manages to be interesting and funny because of how batshit the writers can be.
 

Letora

Monoamine Oxidase A
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When adults don't behave/think/speak like adults, or when children behave/think/speak like adults with experience. The former is worse than the latter, as I can somewhat understand child geniuses, but when an adult speaks like a dumbass teenager, like they are on the level of the child, it yanks me right out of immersion.

I think the most recent one I read, which is quite a popular and long Harry Potter fic, so the low quality of it surprised me, had Harry somehow become incredibly proficient at multiple spells of significant difficulty, plan and execute ideas with absolutely no experience and dominate/impress/trick all the adults around him, right under their nose. The adults treated and spoke to him like he was their equal and he managed conversations with them without any difficulty. I think he was like 14 years old. I was like ??? Albus Dumbledore speaks like a child; a 100+ year old teenager. Harry Potter is also a gigantic Mary Sue, and just keeps adding all sorts of bonuses and buffs to his existence.

I don't know why I kept reading it. I still haven't finished. I guess I want to see if the ending is just as awful.
 

CrippleThreat

At least my third leg is still working.
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This is not much of a trope, but it was so common in the past, as well as now, that it plagues me as a gripe.

Finish your fanfictions please, especially if you are just a novice or writing for the sake of it. Even if it isn't your best, it's a start somewhere. Too often have I seen [abandoned] or [cancelled] or even a "[hiatus]." If you just jump from your unfinished world and story into a new one so quickly and haphazardly, I get feeling that there is a lack of soul between your work and yourself. You'll never get that/those first work(s) out of your head if you go that route.

Sometimes, writing is arduous, but the joy one feels once they get into a rhythm is incredible, even more so when others think your work to be excellent

In short, perseverance is key.
 

Kari Kamiya

"I beat her up, so I gave her a cuck-cup."
True & Honest Fan
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This is not much of a trope, but it was so common in the past, as well as now, that it plagues me as a gripe.

Finish your fanfictions please, especially if you are just a novice or writing for the sake of it. Even if it isn't your best, it's a start somewhere. Too often have I seen [abandoned] or [cancelled] or even a "[hiatus]." If you just jump from your unfinished world and story into a new one so quickly and haphazardly, I get feeling that there is a lack of soul between your work and yourself. You'll never get that/those first work(s) out of your head if you go that route.

Sometimes, writing is arduous, but the joy one feels once they get into a rhythm is incredible, even more so when others think your work to be excellent

In short, perseverance is key.
At least your words are more inspiring than these whiny posts.
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Dear FanFiction Authors,
We are all grateful for the hard work and effort you put in to make the stories we love.
But please, PLEASE, don’t be assholes.
By this, I don’t mean leaving chapters at a cliffhanger or flipping the script in a way that was not expected.
No, what I mean is this: If you start a story, FINISH IT. Or if you do not intend to finish it, PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION. Because then you leave your readers at an impasse that cannot be overcome. And that, in itself, is bad enough.
But what’s worse? UNFINISHED SEQUELS.
The story IS finished, so there’s the small amount of gratification in completion, despite the multiple loose ends left astray with the intention of a sequel. It’s expected for there to be a sequel at this point.
And then you start the sequel, and everything is going fine, until it just stops dead in its tracks. Because you, the author, lost interest. And that is by far a worse crime than an unfinished story.
An unfinished story does not allow as deep of an emotional connection as a finished one does. So the readers who are emotionally invested in a fic get to have their hearts smashed, because YOU, the AUTHOR, LOST INTEREST AND COULDN’T PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION.
And this isn’t to the authors who haven’t updated in a few months, or 2 years, tops.
No, this is to the authors who haven’t updated in 11 GODDAMNED YEARS. OR MORE THAN 5.
Like, at that point, it’s just sadistic.
Sincerely,
A Fucking IRATE Reader Who Just Wants To Know WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS NEXT
August 21st: Fanfiction Writers Appreciation Day

It is not surprising news that fanfiction writers are highly underappreciated.

There’s something wrong with the numbers: let’s take a popular fic with almost 4k hits. For let’s say 700 readers, it will get about 50 comments and 300 Kudos (those numbers are just an example, sometimes it’s worse than that). Maybe I’m being too kind, maybe not, but things stay the same; there’s something wrong here. Can you see it?

It takes us days, weeks, sometimes months to write a story for you. We write for ourselves yes, but we also write to share. We write to offer you content about your favourite characters. We write to bring our and your ships to life. It takes you a fraction of second to leave a Kudos, ten seconds to one, two or a few minutes to leave a comment.

And here lies our problem: there’s no proper sharing if there’s no proper feedback. An author not getting comments is generally a sad author. If I didn’t get feedback I’d wonder what’s the point in keeping on writing. A comment makes a writer’s day, most of the time even motivates them to write more.

Another important thing thrandythefabulous and I noticed: why on Earth do so many readers don’t comment (even kudos) if the fic has been up for a little more than a week or two? Why? Your feedback is still welcomed and much appreciated.

We write for ourselves, but also we write for you. And sadly, many readers are being quite… ungrateful, when giving feedback is the least they can do to thank the people offering them stories for free.

So, before we get started on our little day, let’s talk about comments:

It doesn’t matter if other readers already said what you wanted to say, we’ll still love reading it again in your words.

It doesn’t matter the fic has been up for weeks or months or years; comments on those ones are unexpected and so, it makes them ever better.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t have much to say, we’ll be glad anyway.

Most authors leave the comment section open to people who don’t have an Archive of Our Own (AO3) account, which means you can still… comment! How amazing is that.


That brings us to our little Fanfiction Writers Appreciation Day.
The point of this day is simple; on August 21st, writers and readers alike would go on AO3 (or any fanfiction website really), on Tumblr, and leave a comment on their favourite fics (even the fics they enjoyed!) and/or send their authors a message about their works.

It doesn’t matter if you’ve already or never commented. It doesn’t matter if the author doesn’t know about this post. It doesn’t matter if the author already knows how much you love their work.

Just let writers know you love the fics they write for you, simple as that!

And well, don’t forget to keep leaving a Kudos and a comment in the future, and make writers happy!

Because yes, I do agree it's disheartening to come across a good rare fic only to find out it's been on hiatus or dead for years and I'm bad at this, too. Given fanfic writers are doing this as a hobby and not getting paid for it, there's no set-schedule or something a bit more motivating than "Personal satisfaction that you finished something for once". Also, life comes first, so if life gets busy, have to set aside some hobbies for that.

I think many writers feel guilt over this, though, they just can't help the curveballs that get thrown their way and puts those fun things on hold. Those who admit they abandoned a story because inspiration left them or they just don't like it anymore but then are working on other stories come off as soulless. It's why you tend to see "fic adoptions", but that's more sad than annoying, especially if the person who "adopted" the story doesn't have the talent.

I also have a feeling the term "plot-bunnies" came to be as a way to poo-poo away the notion of laziness because "I'm juggling so much as it is, tee hee, oh here comes another one" even though I think even professional writers are able to juggle multiple books at once, and they churn out work just fine.
 

South American Tapir

Dumb people haul trash around
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When adults don't behave/think/speak like adults, or when children behave/think/speak like adults with experience. The former is worse than the latter, as I can somewhat understand child geniuses, but when an adult speaks like a dumbass teenager, like they are on the level of the child, it yanks me right out of immersion.
Agreed. It's especially bad when an adult is known to be more than fairly intelligent/competent.

Several years ago, I read an Ace Attorney fanfic that showed that the person writing had no concept of what the series was even about, on top of a lot of other awful fanfic tropes. It was like a car crash; so bad, but I couldn't look away.

-Main character (Phoenix Wright) turned into a hyperactive, horny jackass that acts like a teenager (not the straight man that he should be).
-No murders or other cases to solve, just wacky or "emotional" romance plots.
-Juvenile humor.
-Awkward sex scenes that added nothing to the story.
-Female character somehow knew she was pregnant one day after having sex.
-Author was told how that couldn't happen, so the next chapter said, "It was all a dream!"
-When said character did become pregnant, author inserted a bunch of copy-and-pasted pregnancy facts they read online somewhere. ("Look! I did my research!")
-Awkward as fuck scene where Phoenix takes advantage of a drunk girl, and it was supposed to be cute.

I haven't read many fanfics in my time, but this one ultimately got me to stop. I guess it was a blessing in disguise.
 

Stardust

Ģιίττεર ƣƲεεɴ
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Agreed. It's especially bad when an adult is known to be more than fairly intelligent/competent.

Several years ago, I read an Ace Attorney fanfic that showed that the person writing had no concept of what the series was even about, on top of a lot of other awful fanfic tropes. It was like a car crash; so bad, but I couldn't look away.

-Main character (Phoenix Wright) turned into a hyperactive, horny jackass that acts like a teenager (not the straight man that he should be).
-No murders or other cases to solve, just wacky or "emotional" romance plots.
-Juvenile humor.
-Awkward sex scenes that added nothing to the story.
-Female character somehow knew she was pregnant one day after having sex.
-Author was told how that couldn't happen, so the next chapter said, "It was all a dream!"
-When said character did become pregnant, author inserted a bunch of copy-and-pasted pregnancy facts they read online somewhere. ("Look! I did my research!")
-Awkward as fuck scene where Phoenix takes advantage of a drunk girl, and it was supposed to be cute.

I haven't read many fanfics in my time, but this one ultimately got me to stop. I guess it was a blessing in disguise.
Nobody had any OBJECTION! to this?
 

Nasty Old Person

I dox myself when I think about you
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No, this is to the authors who haven’t updated in 11 GODDAMNED YEARS. OR MORE THAN 5.
Tell that to Harlan Ellison. Fucker died rather than publishing The Last Dangerous Visions 50 years late.
 

Gar For Archer

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Having been reading a bit more fan fiction recently, one thing that gripes me more and more is sheer LENGTH.

Can't tell you how many stories I've read with a solid premise and a good first couple of chapters (by no coincidence, the ones that usually stick the closest to the source material) but devolve into insanity by the midway point. The longer a story runs, the greater potential it has of characters deviating too much from their canon counterparts or the story degrading into weirdness or the author's own political beliefs being inserted into the story where they are entirely irrelevant. Another obvious issue is the longer a fic is, the greater chance of it never being finished. I think I've read a total of ONE long story (about 300k words) that actually managed to keep up a consistent quality throughout and didn't make me feel like I wasted my time reading it.
 

Kari Kamiya

"I beat her up, so I gave her a cuck-cup."
True & Honest Fan
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Having been reading a bit more fan fiction recently, one thing that gripes me more and more is sheer LENGTH.
I've noticed readers aren't really into long fics unless it promises smut, so an alarming number of M-rated fics exist over the 100K wordcount for that reason. Any other story wishes they could gain that much of an audience, but they also have to be really damn good to become known in the community to get the number of readers as the long-winded smut fics.

I've also found accounts that favorite nothing but smut fics, which is odd to me. Like how low is one's standards that they make an account equivalent to that of a fap folder? And chances of any of them being good smut is low, to boot.
 

Gar For Archer

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I've noticed readers aren't really into long fics unless it promises smut, so an alarming number of M-rated fics exist over the 100K wordcount for that reason. Any other story wishes they could gain that much of an audience, but they also have to be really damn good to become known in the community to get the number of readers as the long-winded smut fics.

I've also found accounts that favorite nothing but smut fics, which is odd to me. Like how low is one's standards that they make an account equivalent to that of a fap folder? And chances of any of them being good smut is low, to boot.
Speaking of length and smut fics, it really bugs me when authors go out of their way to mention that the MC has a cartoonishly huge dong. Unless a character's dick size is somehow plot-relevant, why even mention it?
 

I can't imagine

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Speaking of length and smut fics, it really bugs me when authors go out of their way to mention that the MC has a cartoonishly huge dong. Unless a character's dick size is somehow plot-relevant, why even mention it?
In fairness, most of what gets described in sex scenes isn't really plot-relevant, and, at least in the context of the sex scene itself, an impossibly large dick would probably be incredibly relevant to the person having to deal with getting penetrated by it. Though I do get your point; the scene rarely requires the dick to be that big, and, if anything, it makes the scene seem more ridiculous.
 

Kari Kamiya

"I beat her up, so I gave her a cuck-cup."
True & Honest Fan
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Speaking of length and smut fics, it really bugs me when authors go out of their way to mention that the MC has a cartoonishly huge dong. Unless a character's dick size is somehow plot-relevant, why even mention it?
In fairness, most of what gets described in sex scenes isn't really plot-relevant, and, at least in the context of the sex scene itself, an impossibly large dick would probably be incredibly relevant to the person having to deal with getting penetrated by it. Though I do get your point; the scene rarely requires the dick to be that big, and, if anything, it makes the scene seem more ridiculous.
It'd be hilarious if the narrator is the one bragging about the dude's penis size but the character himself is bothered by it because it's really nothing impressive but that'd ruin the mood to bring it up or something like that. But that takes a sense of self-awareness to pull off which amateur writers don't have.
 

FitBitch

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At least your words are more inspiring than these whiny posts.
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August 21st: Fanfiction Writers Appreciation Day

It is not surprising news that fanfiction writers are highly underappreciated.

There’s something wrong with the numbers: let’s take a popular fic with almost 4k hits. For let’s say 700 readers, it will get about 50 comments and 300 Kudos (those numbers are just an example, sometimes it’s worse than that). Maybe I’m being too kind, maybe not, but things stay the same; there’s something wrong here. Can you see it?

It takes us days, weeks, sometimes months to write a story for you. We write for ourselves yes, but we also write to share. We write to offer you content about your favourite characters. We write to bring our and your ships to life. It takes you a fraction of second to leave a Kudos, ten seconds to one, two or a few minutes to leave a comment.

And here lies our problem: there’s no proper sharing if there’s no proper feedback. An author not getting comments is generally a sad author. If I didn’t get feedback I’d wonder what’s the point in keeping on writing. A comment makes a writer’s day, most of the time even motivates them to write more.

Another important thing thrandythefabulous and I noticed: why on Earth do so many readers don’t comment (even kudos) if the fic has been up for a little more than a week or two? Why? Your feedback is still welcomed and much appreciated.

We write for ourselves, but also we write for you. And sadly, many readers are being quite… ungrateful, when giving feedback is the least they can do to thank the people offering them stories for free.

So, before we get started on our little day, let’s talk about comments:

It doesn’t matter if other readers already said what you wanted to say, we’ll still love reading it again in your words.

It doesn’t matter the fic has been up for weeks or months or years; comments on those ones are unexpected and so, it makes them ever better.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t have much to say, we’ll be glad anyway.

Most authors leave the comment section open to people who don’t have an Archive of Our Own (AO3) account, which means you can still… comment! How amazing is that.


That brings us to our little Fanfiction Writers Appreciation Day.
The point of this day is simple; on August 21st, writers and readers alike would go on AO3 (or any fanfiction website really), on Tumblr, and leave a comment on their favourite fics (even the fics they enjoyed!) and/or send their authors a message about their works.

It doesn’t matter if you’ve already or never commented. It doesn’t matter if the author doesn’t know about this post. It doesn’t matter if the author already knows how much you love their work.

Just let writers know you love the fics they write for you, simple as that!

And well, don’t forget to keep leaving a Kudos and a comment in the future, and make writers happy!

Because yes, I do agree it's disheartening to come across a good rare fic only to find out it's been on hiatus or dead for years and I'm bad at this, too. Given fanfic writers are doing this as a hobby and not getting paid for it, there's no set-schedule or something a bit more motivating than "Personal satisfaction that you finished something for once". Also, life comes first, so if life gets busy, have to set aside some hobbies for that.

I think many writers feel guilt over this, though, they just can't help the curveballs that get thrown their way and puts those fun things on hold. Those who admit they abandoned a story because inspiration left them or they just don't like it anymore but then are working on other stories come off as soulless. It's why you tend to see "fic adoptions", but that's more sad than annoying, especially if the person who "adopted" the story doesn't have the talent.

I also have a feeling the term "plot-bunnies" came to be as a way to poo-poo away the notion of laziness because "I'm juggling so much as it is, tee hee, oh here comes another one" even though I think even professional writers are able to juggle multiple books at once, and they churn out work just fine.
Pour one out for "The Coward and the Beast" and here's to all of us who had a favorite fanfic that disappeared onto the ether with no warning.

Edit: I write fanfic because it's like brain candy and the idea of "author appreciation" is baffling to me.
 
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Speaking of length and smut fics, it really bugs me when authors go out of their way to mention that the MC has a cartoonishly huge dong. Unless a character's dick size is somehow plot-relevant, why even mention it?
Yeah I've wondered more then once if writers who do this are in the closet. It's fucking weird to read a hetro smut fic that goes into very intimate loving detail over the MC's cock size and shape while skimming over the women's features.

I also laugh my ass off at how Naruto Uzumaki is a Casanova and sex god with a huge dick in smut fiction when he was such a dense dumbass in canon that he had to be bluntly told that Hinata was thirsty for his sausage for years by Sakura and this was after the chick said she loved him during the Pein arc and apparently there's a scene in the manga where he's said to have a small prick or something.
 
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