Fargo - This is a True Story.

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I checked and I haven't seen a thread on this show. There really needs to be one. So this is going to be long, as I explain why Fargo could be so great. Oh, you thought I was talking about the movie? Well, lets get that out of the way.

Fargo is a TV show developed by Noah Hawley. Who is he? Not important. But it is a crime anthology series that shares similar motifs from season to season. And I'll go over all of that and how really cool this show is. So, what is it about? The first season is a loose adaption of the movie itself. It basically follows similar beats, but is different enough to be considered its own thing. Before I get into the first season, I'll go into Fargo's motifs. Even though it is an anthology, they all take place in the same world. Namely, the Midwest. Minnesota, North and South Dakota, Wisconsin and Kansas City, Missouri (which for non-Americans, is a central hub for organized crime in the midwest for over 100 years now, started by Sicilians). Every season (except for its latest) is connected to each other with some loose threads. What really connects the anthology series is the motifs.

Mythology
Fargo, in every season, has incorporated some aspect of modern fantasy. Its like True Detective in a way. Its just there, hovering in the background. Its used sparingly, like spice. Its there to reinforce the themes that the particular season is touching on. Typically, for 2 out of 4 seasons it was Judeo-Christian in nature, but it alternates. Sometimes it has no meaning at all and they include it for kicks, leaving it up to the viewer to speculate. Probably my favorite aspect. Its done so smartly.

Psycho Killer
Another thing Fargo has is a psychotic murderer. Pretty much every season. Some are forces of nature. Others have their goals and actions shrouded in mystery. But its all got them. You might think this gets old, but it really doesn't.

Catalyst
All seasons of Fargo start with death. This death typically leads to a dozen more. Its typically the one (or two) killings that ignite the entire conflict. Everything can be traced back to that one crime and the dominoes falling. The story weaves an intricate web around these killings and sets everything up. Its really fun to see how things expand outward from just one death. And how out of control things can get. Which lead me to the main theme of all of the anthologies....

Miscommunication
Fargo, at its heart, are stories about miscommunication. If only people told the fucking truth, half of the shit could be avoided. Its an ever present fact. People making bad decisions, which leads to compounding bad decisions.

So, lets get into the seasons.

Season 1 is distinctive because it is the one mostly based on the movie. It stars Billy Bob Thornton as Lorne Malvo, as a devil hitman. Though, that's really not what he's about. He is all about temptation. Coaxing characters and people to do horrible shit. Just nudging it along. So when Martin Freeman as Lester Nygaard (a play on Jerry Lundeggard), who after being bullied by an...old high school bully, encounters Malvo in the hospital. Any sympathy you feel for him is quickly evaporated. As he tempts Lester into something horrible, which leads to more horrible shit occurring. And all of that cascades downhill into mayhem.

Season 2 is basically sort of a prequel, going into detail about the crime in Sioux Falls and how many bodies dropped there. It is basically the shift of the 1970s into the 1980s, and how the old ways are changing and gangsters are slowly becoming obsolete. Its also about family and how family relationships can be quite complicated.

Season 3 is the most Lynchian of the three seasons, and not because it has Ray Wise. It stars Ewan McGregor as twin brothers, feuding over money. Mary Elizabeth Winstead as Nikki (If you want to see how great an ass she has, just watch the first episode) the love interest of the 'loser' brother. Its really strange. Odd characters, strange coincidences. Things left unexplained. This is because, basically, the entire season is about how we bend the truth to fit our own perspectives. So it is a meta narrative on how we do that. I really enjoyed the third season a lot. It starts off a bit slow, but its really fucking good. I enjoyed it a lot.

Currently, Fargo is airing Season 4, with Chris Rock as part of the black mob or Negro Syndicate as they call it, with Jason Schwartzman as the leader of the Italian mob. You might be wondering, but ASSHOLE ISN'T HE A (())? First, I'm a spaghetti nigger so I'm the one that should care and I don't. The other reason being he's half Jewish and actually half Italian. His middle name is Francesco. Which I never knew and is kind of funny. I haven't gotten through most of it yet, and its basically starting its end run. Since Fargo only runs for 10 episodes, which isn't much but is honestly plenty. Season 4 is definitely about the American Dream and discrimination against race. Now, you might be saying that's shit. No, it isn't. The show, in its intro, basically says Italians and Irish are non-whites. Which, in the 1950s, that's what they were. So it tackles how two groups that are pushed down by society deal with it and struggle to make a home for themselves. Its really interesting, in that its 2020 and its portraying a message that discrimination affected a lot of people, even though the modern day definition of white doesn't line up with what it really means. I mean, I have to give it props for this. And Fargo still retains its core themes in spite of this. Racism isn't a catalyst, its just something both these groups experience, and most importantly, its not present to the detriment of the story.

This is in contrast to Lovecraft country, with shits all over its main supernatural elements to promote black supremacist garbage. Its a breath of fresh air, to acknowledge my ancestor's discrimination among people who say it didn't matter. There's also the concept of nationalism and immigration with the Italians. The blacks see themselves as American, while they see the Italians as the 'other', fresh off the boat, trying to take American land. It is really refreshing to see. Wokeness isn't really present, and women are just as terrible and awful as men. So that's why you should watch
Fargo. Each season in the anthology is independent of each other, especially the fourth. So you can basically watch them in any order (but you will miss out on certain things, winks, nods and callbacks if you watch them out of order). But if you just want the story and thematic elements, it isn't that important. So if you're not convinced, let this shot of Billy Bob Thorton convince you:

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I loved Season 1, but Season 2 was some of my all time favorite television. Mike Milligan is a great character, and I loved everything about his arc.

Gotta admit, though, I did not care that much for Season 3. The longer it went on, the more it felt as if I was wasting my time. That animated segment during one of the early episodes left a bad taste in my mouth. It just felt like the people making the show were starting to fall in love with the smell of their own farts. It put me off trying Season 4.
 

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Visited Fargo, cops were nice, people were chill, apparently there's a large amount of AntiFa there and I'm not welcome anymore because of things I've said on Facebook but that entire area is stuck in a time warp, and I would absolutely feel safe walking those streets at night again, because it's like America in the 70s and soft and safe and wholesome and nice and blahblahblah, it's fucking BORING.
 

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I loved Season 1, but Season 2 was some of my all time favorite television. Mike Milligan is a great character, and I loved everything about his arc.

Gotta admit, though, I did not care that much for Season 3. The longer it went on, the more it felt as if I was wasting my time. That animated segment during one of the early episodes left a bad taste in my mouth. It just felt like the people making the show were starting to fall in love with the smell of their own farts. It put me off trying Season 4.
I'll admit, Season 3 isn't for everyone.
How do you recommend to watch it? Like what streaming service should I watch it on/should I buy it on dvd?
Hulu has them all, and they're getting the new episodes of Season 4 as soon as they air. Also you can watch all FX content on Hulu as they have a deal with them.
 

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V.M Varga is such a gangster scariest character in Television

Spoilers for seasons 1 & 3 below:

In the final episode of season 3, Varga refers to himself as a citizen of the air which makes me wonder whether he is a fallen angel, given the supernatural undertones of the story. Ray Wise's character is widely regarded as a take on the Wandering Jew.

I do enjoy the metaphysical leanings that underpin seasons 1 & 3 - In the first season, Malvo's manifestation of pure evil vs Nygaard's evil which is born from human weakness
 
It just felt like the people making the show were starting to fall in love with the smell of their own farts.
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That is Noah Hawley's trademark. The first season of Fargo was great. It was outlandish, yet steady. The second he just went out of his mind and through teh season began throwing all kinds of cutesy weird shit in there. It was exceedingly cringe. The 3rd season was more of the same, only with all the magic sucked out of it. The 4th season stars notoriously anti-white shitbag comedian Chris Rock -- of course a purportedly ultra-white northern American anthology should focus on black gangsters, of course it should! -- so I'm going to assume its more stereotypical anti-white hollywood garbage. Unsure about that, but that its a self-indulgent wankfest is certain.

Hawley did the same thing with his Legion series, except that that was wank from the very beginning, and quickly became far worse than even the worst of Fargo. He has access to technical excellence in lighting and effects and general production quality, often inspired casting, but his writing and directorial frippery dooms most everything he touches.

Oh shit, from Wikipedia it seems he's going to direct a Star Trek movie? lol. That sounds about right for that doomed franchise. "Star Trek can't get any worse!" Enter Noah Hawley.
 

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I'm so glad I didn't make a thread about this a couple of weeks ago when I noticed there wasn't one. This far outclasses anything I could muster.

I'm digging this season so far. Lots of throwbacks to season two (Satchel Cannon has got to be Mike Milligan, right?). That weird ghost/apparition that's shown up a few times is throwing me off a bit. Is it going to be like the UFO from season two, in that it's not really there, but an artifact of our unreliable narrator? Lots of questions. Also Oretta gives me strong Malvo vibes. Idk what it is.

Just finishing a rewatch of season two, about to tackle season one again. Just a fantastic show all around that barely gets talked about.

Edit: Threw a spoiler on the season four stuff.
 
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It was fun watching the first three seasons and spotting familiar locations, as I live in the area where most of it was filmed, and my grandparents lived in the small town where most of season 2 was shot. The office building used extensively in season 1 is one I worked in, and the insurance company office location was one floor down from where I worked. The elevator Billy Bob Thornton shoots the guy at was the parkade elevator in that building.
 

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i enjoyed the film so ive held off on it but you have me ready to binge watch... thanks op!

do they seem to have a plan someone said there's going to be a 4th or 5th season?

edit: glad they're taking advantage of the based on a true story angle...
 

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Season Two is the superior season. Its fucking brilliant and every performance is done well. Not to mention they paid close attention to be as authentic to the late 70s as possible.

Kirsten Dunst and Jean Smart were totally robbed of their awards. I'm still baffled she lost to Lady Gaga but then I remembered Ryan Murphy probably bought the damn thing for her.

Also its how Kiki met Jesse Plemons and now they have a family together.

Dunst, Wilson, Smart, and Plemons should have swept the Emmys but the damn OJ miniseries was airing at the same time.

No seriously the season is literal perfection to me. Peggy is without a doubt one of the greatest protagonists in Fargo. Dunst carried the show. Her character was so batshit that even things like UFOs didn't phase her.

Even as a standalone season it works. Except for some minor plot points you can watch it and not get confused.
 

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Secret Asshole said:
Currently, Fargo is airing Season 4, with Chris Rock as part of the black mob or Negro Syndicate as they call it, with Jason Schwartzman as the leader of the Italian mob.

The Negro Syndicate and the Italian Mob.
In Fargo, ND.
In the fucking FIFTIES.
Yeah, get the fuck outta here with that shit. What's next? The Cartels in Nome, Alaska during the roaring '20s? The Russian Mafia hot tubbing in Key West during the Krushchev era? Maybe we could get super plausible and have the Black Hand smuggling opium out of China during the Three Kingdoms period.

I realize this show has supernatural elements, but frankly I'd buy the existence of the Illuminati a lot quicker than I'd believe a negro syndicate in North Dakota during the Eisenhower administration. The movie worked because it was about petty drama and bullshit that spun out of control, which is the kind of pedestrian crime you usually see out of these flyover states. Trying to shoehorn in oppression porn into a circumstance that was 99% Norwegian farmers is always going to be stupid and forced, no exceptions.
 

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Fargo is one of my favorite shows currently on air. The first season that I watched was Season 2, so I definitely have a soft spot for that one. But I’ve enjoyed all the seasons so far to one degree or another. I really like how each one has its own distinct vibe: so far, for example, Season 4 is more of an operatic family saga in the vein of The Godfather, whereas Season 1 was more of a down-to-earth crime drama in the vein of the original film.

You might be wondering, but ASSHOLE ISN'T HE A (())? First, I'm a spaghetti nigger so I'm the one that should care and I don't. The other reason being he's half Jewish and actually half Italian. His middle name is Francesco.

Fun fact: Jason Schwartzman is the son of actress Talia Shire, which makes him Francis Ford Coppola’s nephew and Sophia Coppola and Nicolas Cage’s cousin (the latter being the son of Francis’ late brother August).

The Negro Syndicate and the Italian Mob.
In Fargo, ND.
In the fucking FIFTIES.
Yeah, get the fuck outta here with that shit. What's next? The Cartels in Nome, Alaska during the roaring '20s? The Russian Mafia hot tubbing in Key West during the Krushchev era? Maybe we could get super plausible and have the Black Hand smuggling opium out of China during the Three Kingdoms period.

I realize this show has supernatural elements, but frankly I'd buy the existence of the Illuminati a lot quicker than I'd believe a negro syndicate in North Dakota during the Eisenhower administration. The movie worked because it was about petty drama and bullshit that spun out of control, which is the kind of pedestrian crime you usually see out of these flyover states. Trying to shoehorn in oppression porn into a circumstance that was 99% Norwegian farmers is always going to be stupid and forced, no exceptions.

Actually, the fourth season takes place in Kansas City, Missouri, which had a thriving Italian crime syndicate as early as 1919. In addition, Loy Cannon (Chris Rock’s black mob boss) was inspired by a real gangster named James (Doc) Dearborn, who was one of the leaders of an outfit called the Purple Capsule Gang:

 
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