Dramacow Fat Guy Across America / FGAA / Eric Hites and Angie Hites (nee Atterbury) - In which a morbidly obese scam artist crowd funded a year+ vacation.

Peepee

Trolling is stupid.
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This guy definitely has some kind of drive. Shit, how many people would travel across the country like he's doing?
No way, man. You still have this completely backwards. Everything he's doing is for the sake of avoiding conventional responsibilities. You should not mistake his pigheadedness and entitlement and delusions of grandeur for "drive."

He started this trip because he was basically out of options, not because he was driven by a grand vision. He has been continuously failing because of his arrogance and laziness, not because of the difficulty of his goals.

He has no money and he has no willpower for dieting. A responsible, driven person in his shoes would be taking the initiative to learn how to diet properly while seeking/maintaining conventional employment. He's convinced he doesn't need to do any of that.

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He can't cope with the fact that for most people, employment and physical fitness are not some glamorous things that net you a bunch of attention and adoration.

Leading an adult life is an unpleasant grind that requires focus and maturity. He can't handle any of that, so he's chasing a harebrained dream instead.

You could argue that he's driven to get attention, but he's even lazy about that. All of his efforts to organize this "journey" are obscenely half-assed, and he constantly whines about how the logistics of it all are so difficult.

All of his "drive" stems from his persistent delusions about finding an easy way out.
 
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LordofCringe7206

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No way, man. You still have this completely backwards. Everything he's doing is for the sake of avoiding conventional responsibilities. You should not mistake his pigheadedness and entitlement and delusions of grandeur for "drive."

He started this trip because he was basically out of options, not because he was driven by a grand vision. He has been continuously failing because of his arrogance and laziness, not because of the difficulty of his goals.

He has no money and he has no willpower for dieting. A responsible, driven person in his shoes would be taking the initiative to learn how to diet properly while seeking/maintaining conventional employment. He's convinced he doesn't need to do any of that.

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He can't cope with the fact that for most people, employment and physical fitness are not some glamorous things that net you a bunch of attention and adoration.

Leading an adult life is an unpleasant grind that requires focus and maturity. He can't handle any of that, so he's chasing a harebrained dream instead.

You could argue that he's driven to get attention, but he's even lazy about that. All of his efforts to organize this "journey" are obscenely half-assed, and he constantly whines about how the logistics of it all are so difficult.

All of his "drive" stems from his persistent delusions about finding an easy way out.
What is the one problem he's primarily focused on getting the quick fix to solve? With people looking for an easy way out to their problems, they usually blame one problem for everything else that is wrong with their lives. All it will take to get their lives in order is to get the big problem out of their way and the rest of their issues will start disappearing along with it. I've had that mindset but managed to realize it was a poor way to go about trying to solve my issues.

It's easy to say it's his weight. But is it firmly that?
 

Peepee

Trolling is stupid.
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What is the one problem he's primarily focused on getting the quick fix to solve? With people looking for an easy way out to their problems, they usually blame one problem for everything else that is wrong with their lives. All it will take to get their lives in order is to get the big problem out of their way and the rest of their issues will start disappearing along with it. I've had that mindset but managed to realize it was a poor way to go about trying to solve my issues.

It's easy to say it's his weight. But is it firmly that?
Finances. He's convinced this trip will be his mealticket, he thinks he'll get to California and dash off "a couple of books" which will immediately be published and immediately result in huge royalty checks that will sort everything out for him. This type of thinking is not a new thing for him, his brother previously surfaced to detail all of the get-rich-quick schemes he's attempted in the past.

He has tons of debt. Instead of having it properly refinanced and working steadily to pay it down over time he's off fucking around on this bike trip.

Also:
With people looking for an easy way out to their problems, they usually blame one problem for everything else that is wrong with their lives.
He does this with "haters." Lately he's been blaming haters for his lack of money, for pressuring him to leave before he was prepared, and so on. And check out the video I posted earlier in this thread for a great example of him blaming all of his failings on being trolled:
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Salubrious

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Someone once said about DSP that they had never seen someone "work so hard to be lazy."

Eric is exactly the same way. This is all about getting viral, getting money, supporting the stream er I mean ride, and avoiding having to work an actual 9-5.

Eric wants to be in control 100% of the time. You just saw how he responded when Jill Homer tried to give him advice: he took it as a personal attack. Eric would much rather beg for money than work a 9-5 because at a 9-5 job he would have a boss, whereas he is his own boss when he's begging for money.

Eric and his hoard caught an Uber to St. Augustine from Jacksonville today. Apparently he's going to stay in a hotel till Friday and re-re-re-re-re-restart the trip again.
If only Eric had some kind of transportation device that would allow him to travel the 41 miles from Jacksonville to St. Augustine on his own...
 
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Peepee

Trolling is stupid.
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This is all about getting viral, getting money, supporting the stream er I mean ride, and avoiding having to work an actual 9-5.

Eric wants to be in control 100% of the time. You just saw how he responded when Jill Homer tried to give him advice: he took it as a personal attack. Eric would much rather beg for money than work a 9-5 because at a 9-5 job he would have a boss, whereas he is his own boss when he's begging for money.
This is astute. The thing about laziness is that it's often a symptom of other problems. In Eric's case, his laziness stems from his arrogance.

He views himself as a brilliant creative force; a misunderstood genius who only needs to prove his worth to the world. His perceived brilliance causes him to believe he's entitled to bigger and better things in life, and that normal work is beneath him. This exceprt from his brother's exposé is telling:
He has never held any full time employment for what would remotely be considered a reasonable time span. It is always "the boss was a jerk", "they knew I was smarter than them", "that place is ran terribly", "they pushed me out before I took over", "some crazy person had it out for me."

Or read Eric's own writing to see how he views himself:
Eric Hites is an artist and writer living in Danville Indiana. Over the years he has gained weight and let life get away from him. He has come to a time in his life he has to decide if he will make changes and improve his health, love, and life. He likes to do big things, and make his family proud. Most of all he wants to show the love of his life, that he will be around for the long haul, to be there when they are old, and to prove by actions instead of words in a big way that his love has no bounds. He has to show her and the world what he can do.
I have always been involved in a variety of creative activities. As a child I started a number of small businesses to have fun and earn money. I sold drinks on the street corner of our small town with my best friend Darby. I used my artistic talents to create stick art to sell to my classmates. As a high school student I traded and sold comic books and baseball cards for extra money. I was the editor of my high school newspaper and in that position I produced a superhero comic featuring a caricature of my journalism teacher. All copies sold very quickly. Many of my caricatures of teacher were featured in my senior yearbook.

Since graduation from high school I have been working toward my degree in graphic design. I have also worked as a temporary layout design artist and an ad specialist for a local weekly newspaper. This was one of my most rewarding experiences. Then I worked for a printing company, where I learned how books were manufactured. For 6 years I was a manager and or cook at various pizza shops including "Papa John's Pizza." In recent years I have owned and operated a bar in Terre Haute Indiana called "Club 300" (where by the way I met my lovely wife) and after that I owned and operated my own pizza shop named "Hungry Hootie's" and in these experiences I learned the importance or organization, preparation, and clear management instructions to keep my stores running smoothly. I also expanded my culinary knowledge and created my own dishes and variations of dishes for my bar and restaurant. Alas, the bar and pizza shop are no more due to the current economic crisis, but the skills I learned and my experiences have given me much insight on what people like to eat and how to do it quickly, cheaply and still taste great.
 

kcbbq

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He Ubered when he has a bike, in probably the easiest place to cover 37 miles in the world. I just don't get it. If he doesn't want to ride a bike he doesn't want to ride a bike and should find a scam where he can fool someone. Even with the trailer, even with the extra 400lbs of body weight, Jacksonville to St. Augustin should be a trivial, done by lunch ride. I don't believe you'd even need to ride on a road. The weather there is really pleasant right now.

I'd give a lot to be in that position - no responsibilities, no cares, just time on a bike. It's like being a kid on their first real bike, pure freedom. Shame it's wasted on a grifter who doesn't actually want to ride his bike, but hopefully we are entertained while it's happening.
 

toad_has_autism

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So far, Eric has ridden 2.7 miles over the past 8 days since his restart. Eric is a con man but unlike other con men like Ice Poseidon, Eric has no talent at all and is a horrible liar. Him and N9OGL Todd Daugherty should hold a spergers convention together.

4/25 0.0 miles
4/26 0.0 miles
4/27 2.7 miles, 10 miles by vehicle
4/28 0.0 miles, says he needs 2 day to get rid of gear
4/29 0.0 miles
4/30 0.0 miles , 35 miles by vehicle to near St. Augustine
5/1 0.0 miles, says he needs another 2 days to go through gear
5/2 0.0 miles
 

kcbbq

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So far, Eric has ridden 2.7 miles over the past 8 days since his restart. Eric is a con man but unlike other con men like Ice Poseidon, Eric has no talent at all and is a horrible liar. Him and N9OGL Todd Daugherty should hold a spergers convention together.

4/25 0.0 miles
4/26 0.0 miles
4/27 2.7 miles, 10 miles by vehicle
4/28 0.0 miles, says he needs 2 day to get rid of gear
4/29 0.0 miles
4/30 0.0 miles , 35 miles by vehicle to near St. Augustine
5/1 0.0 miles, says he needs another 2 days to go through gear
5/2 0.0 miles
How much prep does it take to average 1500 feet per day? This isn't brain surgery, it's riding a bike.
 

Coleslaw

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He Ubered when he has a bike, in probably the easiest place to cover 37 miles in the world. I just don't get it. If he doesn't want to ride a bike he doesn't want to ride a bike and should find a scam where he can fool someone. Even with the trailer, even with the extra 400lbs of body weight, Jacksonville to St. Augustin should be a trivial, done by lunch ride. I don't believe you'd even need to ride on a road. The weather there is really pleasant right now.

I'd give a lot to be in that position - no responsibilities, no cares, just time on a bike. It's like being a kid on their first real bike, pure freedom. Shame it's wasted on a grifter who doesn't actually want to ride his bike, but hopefully we are entertained while it's happening.
Wouldn't 37 take a day? Or am I just too used to city riding?
 

Peepee

Trolling is stupid.
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Wouldn't 37 take a day? Or am I just too used to city riding?
Back when I still had time to do long-distance bike trips I once hammered out 125 miles in a single day. This was at the end of a week of constant riding, when I decided I just wanted to get home and didn't feel like dragging it out any longer. Throughout the rest of the week I had been averaging 70 miles per day. Mind you, this was through the Appalachian foothills, an area with a nonstop onslaught of long, steep hills.

This isn't meant as powerlevel bragging, because really hardcore riders would scoff at my numbers. It's just to show what a normal cyclist with a desire to cover some distance is capable of.

37 miles in fair weather with flat terrain would be a rest day for an average person who is at all serious about biking across the country.
 

kcbbq

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Wouldn't 37 take a day? Or am I just too used to city riding?
I imagine 8mph would be a reasonable pace for FGAA, moving average. His lack of cardio fitness would be the limiter - on flat ground his bad fitness would keep him from efforts that are powered by sugar or lactic acid outside short bursts. It'd be a steady fat burn, so he would barely need to eat beyond bmr calories.

So 4.5 hours (if his heart an take it).

He's stuck to the trailer though, that bike would never take the added strain of full touring bags, but it looks like he's put as much thought into his supplies as he has his starting date and route.
 
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Salubrious

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How much prep does it take to average 1500 feet per day? This isn't brain surgery, it's riding a bike.
He would consider himself having ridden 2.7 miles/day because rest days don't count against the average.

He's yelled at people in the past for their "idiot math" of averaging the zeroes into his daily mileage.

Wouldn't 37 take a day? Or am I just too used to city riding?
There are charity one-day rides that go 50 or 100 miles.

Most out of shape people not dragging a fucking heavy trailer behind them could probably go 10 mph. The dedicated weekend warriors can go 20-22 mph, and some really good riders are around 25-28 mph.
 

kcbbq

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He would consider himself having ridden 2.7 miles/day because rest days don't count against the average.

He's yelled at people in the past for their "idiot math" of averaging the zeroes into his daily mileage.



There are charity one-day rides that go 50 or 100 miles.

Most out of shape people not dragging a fucking heavy trailer behind them could probably go 10 mph. The dedicated weekend warriors can go 20-22 mph, and some really good riders are around 25-28 mph.
And then there's this asshole (I mean amazing dude despite his obvious handicap of being a Frenchman):


Edit: He holds the Masters 100-104 hour record at 16.7mph set at the age of 103, as well, beating the record he set when he was 101. Now he's stuck in Masters 105+. His doctors told him to stop doing hour records when he turned 106, but he still does races. Dude's metal.
 
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