My personal favorites are: does a set of all sets contain itself and what if Pinocchio said my nose will now grow. What is yours?
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I like the boat one. Where if you replace every piece one by one over time is it the same boat?
Also can God create a rock he isn't strong enough to lift.
Also can God create a rock he isn't strong enough to lift.
Never obey me
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A set of all sets already contains itself. Pinocchio specified the time at which he would make his own nose grow at will, which results in his nose growing after said 'now' because it is only a lie that causes it to grow.
Then again, why not imagine that an omnipotent creature can change something that he can't lift into something he can lift?
My favorite is the unstoppable force against the immovable object.
No. The Ship of Theseus was the same in name only, but having been completely replaced, it was a new ship. You would not call yourself the same Newfriend today that you were ten years ago, because your body keeps rebuilding itself and your world view changes with your age and knowledge. You will only be yourself in name until you die, after which there will be no new Newfriend ever again.
Since the paradox believes in the omnipotence of a God, and a God would have to be able to accomplish anything because he's omnipotent, then obviously he would be able to create a rock because it was designed to be impossible to be lifted even by him. I don't see why he would have to be able to lift a rock he made specifically to be impossible to be lifted just because he's omnipotent. He already created the rock solely so he wouldn't lift it, which is what he would do as long as he was as omnipotent as claimed.
Then again, why not imagine that an omnipotent creature can change something that he can't lift into something he can lift?
It may sound like a paradox, but it's more of a fancy way of saying "do whatever."
My favorite is the unstoppable force against the immovable object.
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I took it as if you obey the "never obey me" statement, you're obviously obeying what I said, thus disobeying the statement. If you choose to not obey the statement and do your own thing without command, by not obeying the "never obey me" statement, you're still obeying the directions, thus disobeying the command. Maybe I'm just derping and not getting it, but it seems like a paradox to me.
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Yeah I know, I'm just being a smartass.
"Never obey me" is asking the impossible so it's not obeying anyone. I might as well ask you to fly under your own power, but it sounds like a possible task that becomes impossible once you actually think how it works. Paradoxes are thought experiments, after all.
The wording of the god rock one is important. "Can god create a rock so heavy that he's unable to lift it?" It's not about the rock being designed to not be lifted, it's about the rock having such an extreme weight that god himself lacks the physical strength to lift it.
I've always really liked that one because it points out exactly why an all powerful being can't exist.
I've always really liked that one because it points out exactly why an all powerful being can't exist.
"Nothing is impossible."
"All Cretans are liars"
- Some Cretan
- Some Cretan
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Yeah but what if you build a second ship out of all the parts, is it now actually the first ship?
Also you're arguing whether infinity can create infinity+1.
Or alternately: Can God microwave a burrito so hot that he can't eat it?
I always liked this one (I think it's by Bertrand Russel?)
In a village, the barber shaves everyone who does not shave himself/herself, but no one else.
Who shaves the barber?
In a village, the barber shaves everyone who does not shave himself/herself, but no one else.
Who shaves the barber?
The development company, I like their games but the DLC model sucks if you're poor
"No traps are gay"
- Some gay trap
- Some gay trap
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That's an interesting question that you should pose for the future because it'll become relevant once teleporting a human being becomes possible. If technology disassembles you and reassembles you elsewhere as a form of transport, are you still the same person? Nobody would know for sure because the new you would just think it worked, while the old you died in a split second by having his atoms pulled apart. Sweet dreams.
Me, I think no. It's not.
Yes I am arguing infinity+1, as little sense as it makes. Because paradoxes are thought experiments, there's really never an answer. I don't think an omnipotent being is possible, but if such a thing must exist then it must be able to do even the most impossible because otherwise it's not an omnipotent being.
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It is obviously the same boat for the same reason a person is obviously the same person. Gradual replacement does not change the fundamental nature of something. It doesn't change the experience of its existence. Human body cells constantly die and are replaced. Yet you don't lose a sense of personal connection to your previous self.
What matters is when something is recreated from scratch, or perhaps when so much is replaced at once that it changes the "experience" of the object.
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The definition of omnipotence is being able to do anything, if God were to create an item he could not lift, then he could not lift it, which would imply that he is not omnipotent. The amount of things he can do is essentially infinity minus one at that point. Which is not the same as infinity.
If there's nothing greater than god and the universe exists at the same time you end up with the universe + god, which is obviously greater than god and that's not right. So anything that can exist within the limits of the universe is actually god, god is everything, and the big rock argument is like if a fat person can eat a tub of ice cream.
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