FB 4/16 - Chris Appreciates Ellen DeGeneres -

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Honestly, what I'd like to see Chris do is go to a therapist. Get a diagnosis.
Been there done that. Court ordered him to after the Game Stop incident. Therapy slid off of Chris like water from a duck's back. Chris thinks he's superior and he doesn't want to change. In fact, he expects all 8 billion of us Humans to do the changing (ie, become his servants).

Add male and female restrooms to the list of places Chris is banned from.
Wonder if he'll go back to pooping himself again? That'll certainly make him more acceptable in public. uh huh.

And if he offended Hulkamaniacs too, well, that's just the worst.
I'm sure Chris will find a way to alienate the Juggalos as well.
 

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I knew about that. What I should of said was: How many times has that happened since that incident?
If I were to guess, I'd say every single time since that incident. Even in full bag-lady attire, Chris is about as feminine as a shoulder of pork and so assuming that there was even one other person in the ladies restroom whilst he was in there, a confrontation seems inevitable.

If I were a woman trying to use a public restroom, and what was clearly an overweight, learning disabled, inappropriate and odorous man walked in wearing the contents of an 8 year-old girl's dressing up box I would be deeply uncomfortable, and would likely voice my concerns to the nearest jerkop. I am sure I'm not alone in thinking this. With that in mind it seems unlikely that Chris has made even a single excursion to the ladies room without incident.
 

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I don't think Chris attempted it again, and even if he did, he tried it very infrequently.
The fact that he would bring up this particular very specific grievance again in this status update (in spite of it not being entirely relevant to DeGeneres's point) would suggest otherwise.

But then again Chris has been known to reference non-recurring traumatic occurrences in his life many years later (i.e the 'Holding him down and recording his screams' story) and so I suppose it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the occasion noted on the CWCKI was a one-off
 
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The fact that he would bring up this particular very specific grievance again in this status update (in spite of it not being entirely relevant to DeGeneres's point) would suggest otherwise.
No, this is an example of Chris caring about LGBT issues.
 

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No, this is an example of Chris caring about LGBT issues.
The idea of Chris caring about an abstract cause that doesn't immediately relate to his own personal experiences does baffle me slightly, especially considering that this is a cause that he has only recently stopped being vehemently against. I get the feeling that Chris would only ever fight the injustice of lavatorial apartheid if he himself was a "victim" (in his own mind) of it, especially to the point that he would explicitly mention it on Facebook.

Given Chris's past stubbornness it would not surprise me in the least to learn that he has since regularly tried to use the ladies toilets whenever he could get away with it without incident, for the simple reason that he is a woman in his mind and is therefore 'entitled' to use the ladies restroom.
 
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#Restroom

This is the kind of crap we get when exceptional individuals get firm hold of already annoying things. Chris's hashtagging is almost like some kind of sarcastic/mocking take on hashtags, or at least that's all I can come up with to tell myself so I don't chuck my phone against the wall.

Edit: Actually gotta give him a pass here, considering the subject. Ready for deletion/disagrees (though there are plenty of other Chris hashtags to prove my point, just without the possibility of a "crap" pun). :(
 
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The idea of Chris caring about an abstract cause that doesn't immediately relate to his own personal experiences does baffle me slightly, especially considering that this is a cause that he has only recently stopped being vehemently against. I get the feeling that Chris would only ever fight the injustice of lavatorial apartheid if he himself was a "victim" (in his own mind) of it, especially to the point that he would explicitly mention it on Facebook.
Well no, I mean, normal people do that too. People say shit like "I care about gay rights because my son is gay."

But, did Chris get in trouble for using the wrong bathroom recently? No.
Given Chris's past stubbornness it would not surprise me in the least to learn that he has since regularly tried to use the ladies toilets whenever he could get away with it without incident, for the simple reason that he is a woman in his mind and is therefore 'entitled' to use the ladies restroom.
I can't imagine Chris would regularly succeed at using the women's bathroom (and not fail at least once) without me having heard of it.
 

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Well no, I mean, normal people do that too. People say shit like "I care about gay rights because my son is gay."
I think that's why I'm having trouble with this. The notion of Chris reacting in a way a normal person would, especially on a matter as sensitive as LGBT rights, is just jarring to me.
But, did Chris get in trouble for using the wrong bathroom recently? No.
I can't imagine Chris would regularly succeed at using the women's bathroom (and not fail at least once) without me having heard of it.
Both very true. Maybe Chris is capable of learning from a bad experience after all.
 

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I think that's why I'm having trouble with this. The notion of Chris reacting in a way a normal person would, especially on a matter as sensitive as LGBT rights, is just jarring to me.
Chris has had things happen to him once and held a grudge against it. Some things just stick in his mind more than others. They don't have to be actively happening or even recent to bother him.

The restroom topic is actually one of the more common when discussing trans rights (and safety), so if he's hanging around those communities he's going to have read or heard about it likely on a multitude of occasions and have a general (if not very basic) understanding of the situation. This is his way of explaining why, from his own personal feelings on the matter, to the "normal" people he thinks sincerely think and act the way he described. Chris can react like a relatively normal person in appropriate situations, even if he doesn't get all the facts correct or his views come from his screwed world perspective.
 
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Chris has had things happen to him once and held a grudge against it. Some things just stick in his mind more than others. They don't have to be actively happening or even recent to bother him.

The restroom topic is actually one of the more common when discussing trans rights (and safety), so if he's hanging around those communities he's going to have read or heard about it likely on a multitude of occasions and have a general (if not very basic) understanding of the situation. This is his way of explaining why, from his own personal feelings on the matter, to the "normal" people he thinks sincerely think and act the way he described. Chris can react like a relatively normal person in appropriate situations, even if he doesn't get all the facts correct or his views come from his screwed world perspective.
I think that is exactly right. Chris cares about LGBT issues. Yes, that is because he is LGBT. But with LGBT issues, he gives it a lot more thought than his usual emotional reaction to something that angers him.

This is an issue that is reasonably well considered. Probably as well as Chris can address any issue. He

a)acknowledges that some people might be made uncomfortable with someone who is a transgender INTO their gender using their bathroom
b) points out that people might be uncomfortable with someone who is a transgender FROM their gender in their bathroom too, so it is at the very least, a complicated issue
c) explains (albeit very clumsily) that someone transitioning out of one gender might be made very uncomfortable in a bathroom of that gender, so it is unfair to them to go through that
d) acknowleges that the system might be abused, and he is not advocating a blanket "go to whatever bathroom you want", but suggests he doesn't think that would be a huge problem.

Whether or not you agree with that argument, I think you have to acknowlege that it is not superficial and rage-filled. He gave it some thought, considered the whole transgender community, considered non-transgenders' reactions and came up with a post that has some merit.
 

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"there are jokes about Bruce Jenner all the time and I'm hurt for him"
lul, if you care so much why did you call Bruce a he?

Also, can anyone explain to me Chris's obsession with the word empathy? Is this another case of "conquered autism look at muh empathy" or what? He seems to use the word much more than anyone else would.
 

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"there are jokes about Bruce Jenner all the time and I'm hurt for him"
lul, if you care so much why did you call Bruce a he?

Also, can anyone explain to me Chris's obsession with the word empathy? Is this another case of "conquered autism look at muh empathy" or what? He seems to use the word much more than anyone else would.
It seems to be a common thing with anyone that has Social Justice issues at heart. They all talk about empathy being the ultimate thing you should strive for, when I'm pretty sure everyone practices it. Just they're not weenies about it.
 
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"Also, can anyone explain to me Chris's obsession with the word empathy? Is this another case of "conquered autism look at muh empathy" or what? He seems to use the word much more than anyone else would.
Pretty much. Chris likes to mention that he has empathy because he's aware that it's a common problem among autistic people to lack empathy, the fact he considers himself empathic validates his status as "high-fuctionning autistic". But because he's autistic, he can't gauge well neurotypical people emotions to be on the same level. It's not impossible for Chris to be empathic, but whatever empathy he has, he's under the impression to feel so much empathy that he believes he's more empathic than anyone else, and that makes him look as endearing as a big bunny. But he expects just as much in return whereas in the eyes of most people, he comes off as insensitive or unsympathetic.
 
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