Feminism and the LGBT Community with Respect to Transgenderism - A vain (and autistic) attempt to improve Tranny Sideshows

[Akumaten]

LGB were before T, and Q was always ours, because it was always thrown at us. T is on its own. And if you're a "transbian" you're a heterosexual male. That means you're not even in LGB, just T. You'll have to stand for your own rights. You're cut off.

Tl;dc
You're all sodomites and deserve equal scorn.

 

[Begemot]

Honestly, TERFs are to blame, & are just pissed that AGP men found their game & beat them. Maybe if TERFs showered, & shaved their armpits & legs, we wouldn’t be dealing with this shit.

Like most white people they are genetic failures. We should enforce sex changes on them to alleviate their suffering.

 

[Nate Higgers]

Feminists -cannot- respect men's spaces in the slightest. Complain for spots of your own when you're not trying to nag your way into the boy scouts, men's barbershops, etc.

I was eating a whole ass box of Girl Scout cookies today like the fat shit I am and I was wondering if the Girl Scouts have been infiltrated by tranners by now and sure enough:

https://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/living/girl-scouts-welcomes-transgender-girls-feat/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-girl-scouts-transgender-20150703-story.html

I genuinely am far beyond and past “peak trans” now.

 

[Nate Higgers]

Been brought up in this thread already and I have brought it up before in other threads: trannyism can SOLELY be blamed on the free market.

With private healthcare, medical corporations will always attempt to push unnecessary surgeries and medicine onto their consumers. Including trannyism.
Trannyism does not exist to any meaningful extend in countries with public health care and the few cases that do are due to American influence.
Feminism does not have any say in it at all. It might be brought up by trannys and pharma companies as a philosophical excuse but mark my words. Trannyism can SOLELY be blamed on the free market.

Bingo bango. I need to start reading my copy of The Transgender Industrial Complex but I have like 4 James Ellroy books and some other books to finish/start as well. I’m genuinely considering investing some of my secret shekels into pharmaceutical companies that make up large tranny meds market share, as well as those that sell a lot of anti anxiety+anti depressant meds, just based off where society has gone and where it’s headed.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Literally a very popular poster and even one of the top mods were transgender here for years, and nobody batted an eyelid at them and still thought they were cool people, this is ridiculous that you think every trans person is like those screeching SJW troglodytes you see in wojack memes. Have you ever considered that there are many trans people who are probably not that open about being trans, I imagine the majority of young trans people are actually extremely shy and reserved about their gender condition and want to transition quietly. and just want people to treat them with respect they are due for dealing with so much emotional and gender turmoil in a society that generally scorn or dont understand transpeople,

It’s because of people like you, who literally dismiss all trans men and women as ‘mentally ill perverts with cum for brains’ and don’t even want to have serious discussions normally about the actual issues trans people face, that probably many of them act as crazy as they do. It’s because they’ve spent there entire lives being ostracised and bullied by intolerant twats like many here that they act so aggressive and become screechy antisocial SJW types. Because it’s what society has engineered through decades of homophobia and intolerance towards these marginalised groups taht they became this way. You constantly complain about the damage trans people are doing to themselves and to others in society yet you continue to post the same shitty wojack chan memes and laugh at them day in day out. Creating the very culture you claim to hate.

You thought it was a problem particular to them, but maybe your actually part of the problem that’s causing trans people to go off the rails like it has, because of a weird group of online fringe groups mocking them and dismissing them because of their own various weird hang ups towards a huge social/political revolution. Ever consider that?

 

[Marvin]

Literally a very popular poster and even one of the top mods were transgender here for years, and nobody batted an eyelid at them and still thought they were cool people, this is ridiculous that you think every trans person is like those screeching SJW troglodytes you see in wojack memes. Have you ever considered that there are many trans people who are probably not that open about being trans, I imagine the majority of young trans people are actually extremely shy and reserved about their gender condition and want to transition quietly. and just want people to treat them with respect they are due for dealing with so much emotional and gender turmoil in a society that generally scorn or dont understand transpeople,

It’s because of people like you, who literally dismiss all trans men and women as ‘mentally ill perverts with cum for brains’ and don’t even want to have serious discussions normally about the actual issues trans people face, that probably many of them act as crazy as they do. It’s because they’ve spent there entire lives being ostracised and bullied by intolerant twats like many here that they act so aggressive and become screechy antisocial SJW types. Because it’s what society has engineered through decades of homophobia and intolerance towards these marginalised groups taht they became this way. You constantly complain about the damage trans people are doing to themselves and to others in society yet you continue to post the same shitty wojack chan memes and laugh at them day in day out. Creating the very culture you claim to hate.

You thought it was a problem particular to them, but maybe your actually part of the problem that’s causing trans people to go off the rails like it has, because of a weird group of online fringe groups mocking them and dismissing them because of their own various weird hang ups towards a huge social/political revolution. Ever consider that?

I think it's important to keep in mind that KF is a place for people to blow off steam. Most of us are gainfully employed and integrate successfully into society.

Few of us are the types to kick up a shitfit at Thanksgiving because a dangerhair waltzes in with dangerhair and starts the Thanksgiving prayer by giving their pronouns. We just roll our eyes and keep on with our business.

Western society, at least the United States, is massively overtolerant to trans people. The powers that be, at the very least, are all in lockstep on the topic. Anyone here employed beyond a paper hat fast food job would be fired immediately if they voiced even very reasonable opinions about the transgender issue.

Again, we're blowing off steam.

Additionally, in another way, places like kiwifarms, as superficially mean as we can be, are essential to checking the excesses of trans politics. Consider the Trans Lifeline situation. They were killing people, trans people. And it would've continued doing what it was doing probably for another 20 years, at least, had kiwifarms not existed and criticized its practices.

And TLL was something the trans community is doing to itself.

I would also suggest you read null's very thoughtful write up here. It's good stuff.

 

[Vect]

Literally a very popular poster and even one of the top mods were transgender here for years, and nobody batted an eyelid at them and still thought they were cool people, this is ridiculous that you think every trans person is like those screeching SJW troglodytes you see in wojack memes. Have you ever considered that there are many trans people who are probably not that open about being trans, I imagine the majority of young trans people are actually extremely shy and reserved about their gender condition and want to transition quietly. and just want people to treat them with respect they are due for dealing with so much emotional and gender turmoil in a society that generally scorn or dont understand transpeople,

It’s because of people like you, who literally dismiss all trans men and women as ‘mentally ill perverts with cum for brains’ and don’t even want to have serious discussions normally about the actual issues trans people face, that probably many of them act as crazy as they do. It’s because they’ve spent there entire lives being ostracised and bullied by intolerant twats like many here that they act so aggressive and become screechy antisocial SJW types. Because it’s what society has engineered through decades of homophobia and intolerance towards these marginalised groups taht they became this way. You constantly complain about the damage trans people are doing to themselves and to others in society yet you continue to post the same shitty wojack chan memes and laugh at them day in day out. Creating the very culture you claim to hate.

You thought it was a problem particular to them, but maybe your actually part of the problem that’s causing trans people to go off the rails like it has, because of a weird group of online fringe groups mocking them and dismissing them because of their own various weird hang ups towards a huge social/political revolution. Ever consider that?

Right, but if fringe online groups being nasty is hazardous to the mental health of an entire demographic, to the point where they have to censor everything, including basic information about their lifestyle, clearly something with that demographic is very wrong. If a forum that most people think is a Neo-Nazi haven is so destructive to their ideals and sense of identity even with all of the tools and places where they are protected, it's a house built on sand isn't it? And I'm not sure how wojack memes are what creates a whole bunch of people who do exactly what we criticise them for doing. It's like saying homophobia drives gay men to lisp and act flamboyant, when we know its reruns of Project Runway. All the trans people featured on the Farms are people who directly benefit from this shield of progressive support, even as they are publicly exposed for repellent behaviour that would ruin a cis person.

We're talking about an online clique censoring everything from mild jokes and constructive criticism within their own community to outright shielding predators. It's no longer about the civil rights issue of recognising trans people as equal and valid, it's the fact that its become a secretive and warped ideology, and pro-trans advocacy has pushed the extent of validation frequently past what is logical or reasonable. So when a bad actor within the community does something objectively problematic, the tendency to simply handwave it away as transphobia or just bury it does not make them sympathetic as a group advocating asking for equality and understanding. And people who are burned or alarmed by it are forced to stay silent, even if they have the best intentions at heart, and they wind up here because where else on the Clearnet can they discuss it? Yeah, some people get too angry but when you censor a topic in so many places, you'll get some strong opinions. If you've ever been on a server forum for a game you will get people that are a bit too passionate about specific topics.

Edit: And Null basically said the same thing.

 

[Ser Prize]

Trans people aren't equal and valid and you do them more harm by saying so.

 

[gang weeder]

Literally a very popular poster and even one of the top mods were transgender here for years, and nobody batted an eyelid at them and still thought they were cool people, this is ridiculous that you think every trans person is like those screeching SJW troglodytes you see in wojack memes. Have you ever considered that there are many trans people who are probably not that open about being trans, I imagine the majority of young trans people are actually extremely shy and reserved about their gender condition and want to transition quietly. and just want people to treat them with respect they are due for dealing with so much emotional and gender turmoil in a society that generally scorn or dont understand transpeople,

It’s because of people like you, who literally dismiss all trans men and women as ‘mentally ill perverts with cum for brains’ and don’t even want to have serious discussions normally about the actual issues trans people face, that probably many of them act as crazy as they do. It’s because they’ve spent there entire lives being ostracised and bullied by intolerant twats like many here that they act so aggressive and become screechy antisocial SJW types. Because it’s what society has engineered through decades of homophobia and intolerance towards these marginalised groups taht they became this way. You constantly complain about the damage trans people are doing to themselves and to others in society yet you continue to post the same shitty wojack chan memes and laugh at them day in day out. Creating the very culture you claim to hate.

You thought it was a problem particular to them, but maybe your actually part of the problem that’s causing trans people to go off the rails like it has, because of a weird group of online fringe groups mocking them and dismissing them because of their own various weird hang ups towards a huge social/political revolution. Ever consider that?

Oy vey trannies are heckin' valid. Don't you know #NotAll of them are like that? Yea I do agree based trannies can be found, very occasionally, but those are huge outliers. The extreme overwhelming majority are insane, insufferable woketards, or both. And you know this. This cope is like saying it's fine to smooke cause some smookers exist that didn't get lung cancer. You still wouldn't want your kid to smooke and you wouldn't want them to troon out either, at least if your brain isn't addled by wokeshit.

 

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

Literally a very popular poster and even one of the top mods were transgender here for years, and nobody batted an eyelid at them and still thought they were cool people, this is ridiculous that you think every trans person is like those screeching SJW troglodytes you see in wojack memes. Have you ever considered that there are many trans people who are probably not that open about being trans, I imagine the majority of young trans people are actually extremely shy and reserved about their gender condition and want to transition quietly. and just want people to treat them with respect they are due for dealing with so much emotional and gender turmoil in a society that generally scorn or dont understand transpeople,

It’s because of people like you, who literally dismiss all trans men and women as ‘mentally ill perverts with cum for brains’ and don’t even want to have serious discussions normally about the actual issues trans people face, that probably many of them act as crazy as they do. It’s because they’ve spent there entire lives being ostracised and bullied by intolerant twats like many here that they act so aggressive and become screechy antisocial SJW types. Because it’s what society has engineered through decades of homophobia and intolerance towards these marginalised groups taht they became this way. You constantly complain about the damage trans people are doing to themselves and to others in society yet you continue to post the same shitty wojack chan memes and laugh at them day in day out. Creating the very culture you claim to hate.

You thought it was a problem particular to them, but maybe your actually part of the problem that’s causing trans people to go off the rails like it has, because of a weird group of online fringe groups mocking them and dismissing them because of their own various weird hang ups towards a huge social/political revolution. Ever consider that?

I really don’t understand what your endgame is here, dude.
Are you trying to convince Farmers of the error of our ways? That dog ain’t gonna hunt. Like @Marvin said, you can ascribe a good amount of what’s said here as venting. We realize that there are some trans people that aren’t psychos, but the loud ones attract attention.
Are you trying to get us to peak you? I mean, just stick around for a while and the troons will peak you on their own. If you don’t believe that the direction of the whole of “trans culture” isn’t headed in a supremely concerning direction, you aren’t paying attention.
Are you trying to justify your own beliefs and choices to yourself? Then all I can tell you is that you really shouldn’t ignore the doubting voice. It’s there for a reason.

Otherwise, chill the fuck out, man. We aren’t genociding anyone. I promise.

 

[Anti-Intellectual]

One of the things that legitimately makes me mad at the internet is these "marginalized" groups conflating honest criticism with condemnation of their lifestyles and their very existence. Part and parcel of being accepted and participating in society is dealing with feedback from people, and even those who hold an already negative perception of you, it's a sure sign that people are tolerating you when they criticize you instead of, I don't know, outright killing or assaulting you instead.

 

[Nate Higgers]

Last night I took my girlfriend out to dinner and she was looking at something on her phone which prompted her to tell me “did you know there’s only ten lesbian bars left in the entire country?”

I replied with “please don’t get me started on that because you know what I’m liable to say about that and I’d rather wait until we’re not in public before I say something wildly offensive”

I proceeded to tell her at home that it logically follows that lesbian bars are going extinct because of troons and the rift in the lesbian community between lezzers who are attracted to snizz versus troons. I let the conversation die when she was literally short circuiting and said in a hesitant almost staccato forced tone “well…but…I mean, trans women are women” and I closed the conversation out when I said “I’m 100% certain there’s some lesbians who would disagree with that”

tl;dr: the narrative is cracking even for the pretty liberal individuals if you just lightly scratch the surface for them

 

[thegooddoctor]

Trans people aren't equal and valid and you do them more harm by saying so.

Your wrong, perhaps consider you are harming them more in dismissing them so flatly, many are like this probably from abuse because of society, they can’t all be blamed for their problems, the rampant homophobia that existed for decades in western society definitely is partially to blame.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

Literally a very popular poster and even one of the top mods were transgender here for years, and nobody batted an eyelid at them and still thought they were cool people

Much love to the wonderful staff here, but I don't think using a fucking KF moderator as an example of a good tranny is the argument you think it is

Trannies deserve equal treatment. They have beliefs that should be respected. Those beliefs should not be made into law and no one should have to respect their beliefs

 

[Kerr Avon]

, the rampant homophobia that existed for decades in western society definitely is partially to blame.

You need better material mate

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

I don’t like being told I should suck girldick and I find it incredibly offensive that men in dresses call themselves lesbians. Fuck off and get your own words.

Can’t even use a dating app anymore without being plagued by them.

I used to be an ally. Then they invaded spaces that they are not welcome in with their cries of “bigot nazi fascist reeeee!”

I’m so tired of it all. I just want to hang out with women like me and apparently that’s not allowable.

Edit; phrasing

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Fags and feminists caused the troon epidemic and the woke cancer as a whole. Communists all deserve a bullet, that included Terfs. Autists need to be euthanized or at least removed from society.

That is all.

 

[gang weeder]

I don’t like being told I should suck girldick and I find it incredibly offensive that men in dresses call themselves lesbians. Fuck off and get your own words.

Can’t even use a dating app anymore without being plagued by them.

I used to be an ally. Then they invaded spaces that they are not welcome in with their cries of “bigot nazi fascist reeeee!”

I’m so tired of it all. I just want to hang out with women like me and apparently that’s not allowable.

Edit; phrasing

I assoom you're a lesbian. The only way you will get your wish is by voting for Republicans. And hell, let's be honest, you probably won't get it even then. But it's the only way that has a chance. The irony.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Fags and feminists caused the troon epidemic and the woke cancer as a whole. Communists all deserve a bullet, that included Terfs. Autists need to be euthanized or at least removed from society.

That is all.

How insightful, literally listen to yourself you sound like some /pol/ tier Edgelord rn, I would understand if more people made ntelligent posts arguing their anti-trans beliefs Aka @Marvin. I wouldn’t agree but it would be a lot more respectable than the same politically incorrect shitposts several hundred times over. C’mon we can do better than this. The farms ain’t a chan board.

 

[gang weeder]

The farms ain’t a chan board.

Are you sure about that?