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This I can understand perfectly well, but I'd argue that most ordinary women wouldn't necessarily equate being allowed to vote, have a career, own property etc. with "feminism" these days or identify with the word feminist. It's certainly due to the feminists of the past that these things are now commonplace, sure, but the word has come to have different connotations and is now more associated with the extreme types who go on unhinged rants about patriarchy and believe it's wrong to shave your body hair. It's no different to anything else that might have been considered a radical, crazy idea in the past but now people think nothing of it.Most TERFs of the thread are just conservative version of femminist. "Ok, this is enough, we can stop here but still safeguard our rights," is their thought. Feminism is traditionally left, but it stretches across to the right nowadays because a lot of women like having basic modern shit like credit cards and such. So you have a conflict between "conservative" feminist and "liberal" feminist. A libfem is everyone can be a woman and we all deserve equality and also gender doesn't matter except when it does, a conservative fem is we all deserve equality but we don't need to include men.
So really, this objection is more about words and their meanings than anything, and while it does make sense that people who believe that "woman" is best defined as an adult human female (which I'm not going to dispute, it's factually accurate and easy to understand, any other definition the troons try to come up with is either circular or complete nonsense) might not like seeing words being redefined like that, one is a simple, immutable biological characteristic that applies to a very large number of individuals, the other is a political/ideological movement with many different sub-factions that one can choose whether or not to associate with, so the two aren't totally comparable.