I've heard of a few cases of both, although they're particularly rare. With the latter though, it's often just feminist serial killers chopping off the genitals of their young male victims before killing them.
"Vote blue no matter who" is a hell of a drug. TERFs are still progressives at the end of the day, and have bought the narrative that all conservatives want to put them back in the kitchen and force them to have a dozen kids. They may whine and threaten to vote for the conservatives if their politicians don't stop backing the troons, but like an abused housewife, they always come crawling back once election day rolls around.
That's the real sad thing about it, people haven't ultimately learned that their worldview was what set the groundwork for today's policies. One of the most mind numbing examples of this was when that californian asian spa incident happened where some weird troon went to the female bathouse and exposed himself to children. One of the ladies there was this asian chick that brought her kid to the location and decided that enough is enough, the problem was that in the same video that she was denouncing troonism she stated multiple times that she was a californian progressive and a registered democrat, now I don't know if that was just a cheeky way of covering her ass or completely oblivious that her actions is what lead to that guy invading a family space.
Feminist dogma is, in many places, literally just Marxist class warfare bellyaching with "bourgeoisie" madlibbed out with "men".
I was very close to voting for Trump last election because Biden was talking about repealing Title IX and protecting gender identity and not sex. Ultimately I went for Biden as I really was not a fan of how Trump acted in office and with foreign affairs, but I honestly regret my decision and have been voting conservative or progressive that doesn't support troons in my local elections. A few American radfems I know are going to vote red these upcoming elections, and if you want to see what women in the UK think just check out Mumsnet.
This thread annoys me because most of you don't know the big differences between TERFs and liberal feminism and just use the terms interchangeably. And I don't mean this in a No True Scotsman way - they are categorically different. It's like if you mixed up and conflated Koreans and Japanese. TERFism wasn't even popular when GG happened, it was too small in the public eye to make a difference, and radical feminist wouldn't give a shit about it because there's simply bigger shit to worry about. At this point most of you are just trying to find a reason to shit on anything that has feminism in it's name.
This is actually such a retard thought that Im convinced you want to live up to you name. The whole point of radfeminism is that men and women are different and women need spaces for themselves without men. Believing that "men must behave like women" is stereotyping women's behavior, something that troons do and radfeminists do not want. Notice how for decades most radical feminists are gender nonconforming and don't "act or dress like a woman", because doing so is enforcing gender. Radfeminists want men, as a class, to stop systemically treating women, as a class, like shit. Masculinity ain't the fucking problem, unless you think masculinity is beating the shit out of women. The problem is thinking that women must cater to and center men in their lives and believing that women cant live fulfilled lives without men but think that men can without women.
This is inaccurate. This only really applies to office drones. Large sectors of the economy depend on strength and those are industries devoid of women. A lineman or directional drill rig operator is the backbone of the economy and they require strength and the “boots on the ground and get your hands dirty” nature of work will never go away, unless you want to do away with electricity or the internet.
TERFs are just one category of progressives who progressives don’t love back. First it was working class whites, then it was union labor, then just any man who has a penis and wants to keep it, and now it’s women who don’t want men in dresses to fuck them. What makes TERFs special that we have to focus on them and not the other progressives that have been discarded? This is something that I have yet to hear TERFs address. Mostly it’s just them whining that they don’t have enough privileges. I’ll take the TERF cause seriously when they actually care about the equal rights they claim to be for and not just scrounging for more gibs and privileges.
See? There's the Marxism.
They do, and provably so. Almost every single culture in modern human history has considered men to be more valuable than women. From men getting inheritances over women, women being forced/pressured to be the homemakers, girls kept away from school by their families and militant religious groups, to helpless baby girls being murdered by their families. I can assure you every woman you know has been afraid of walking out at night because they're afraid of another man, not another woman, causing them harm. Sure, men can be afraid of that too, but that man is likely to be on equal strength to his attacker, so thus he is less likely to be attacked. Women are not. Every woman understands avoiding that relative that hugs you for too long, walking home at dusk checking your back, and increasing expectations and preparations to be a good mother instead of living your own life. And the thing is, most of those problems that I states don't directly affect me. I live in the west. But I still care about them because I know damn well that if I happened to be born in another family I could be a fucking child bride.
Okay, what are those personal problems radfems are projecting onto other women? Do you think that most women do not experience sexual harassment, felt that they are lesser because they are a woman, or have been discouraged to do certain things because they were women? This is how I can tell you're male. You don't realize how bad men act towards women because most women don't tell you. The men in my family do not know that my cousin was raped, but the women sure do because women are the ones who trust other women the most and know how to console her best. You really just aren't aware of how bad it can be, and when someone tells you otherwise it shatters your reality so the only thing you can do is mock and deny. Just like troons, you'll never understand what it is like to be a woman.
The exact opposite is true.
And I can assure you that this heighted constant state of anxiety you live in is being taken advantage of. You are a useful idiot.
If that were the case, then we would see that families would invest their inheritances to women instead of men, as they are protected and likely to survive. This would be the same for education as well. Why do we not see this?
The context is there, and its quite easy to see that the average man had more liberties than women. If you think that it doesn't necessarily mean that men had better lives than women, I would encourage you to actually research the lives of women in different countries and the expectations that were held to them. Radfems don't believe that all men conspire to make women's lives hard. There's a quite the number of bad ones that make it shit, but its the complicity from other men that seal the deal. Men do nothing about it and just argue about how women have it much better when a woman brings up grievances, just like whats happening right now.
Tell that to the girls that are killed by men while simply going out for a jog in the morning. But I'm fine, thank you. I carry.
You really shouldn't be carrying as you're clearly paranoid to an insane degree.
woman: "im going to take reasonable measures to protect my life as women are more likely to be a target from men because of a lack of strength. so ill level the playing field with a weapon"