Feminism and the LGBT Community with Respect to Transgenderism - A vain (and autistic) attempt to improve Tranny Sideshows

[LurkNoMore]

Also the problem with troons is that it’s never high status or high value males that troon out. It’s always the socially awkward/weird looking guy or the guy that was stuck in the middle of the corporate ladder.

What is a high value male exactly? It really sounds like "man I would date or fuck." And not an actual question about his value beyond that.

Are those men who have a wife and children when they troon out low value? Or that freak they made an Admiral? Or the navy seal who trooned out?

It comes across as missing the forest for some boulder on the side of the road. Troonism effects the mentally ill, something that can effect all classes of men and women. Namely the coomers.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

So, Jews.

 

[Mothra1988]

I don’t think it’s Marxist. It’s Marxist-lite because it has a zero sum view of the world. But feminism and by extension gay rights were a way for wealthy women and homosexuals elites to solidify their power. Most of these movements even the civil rights movements were probably never meant to be universal. Some participates wanted to solidify their class position and privilege. Also, feminism would have probably happened due to the fact that a lot of the upper class men were either dead or fighting in WW1.
Also the problem with troons is that it’s never high status or high value males that troon out. It’s always the socially awkward/weird looking guy or the guy that was stuck in the middle of the corporate ladder.

2nd wave feminism is completely Marxism with class replaced with gender. It's the same exact shit, and that's where most of the problems with feminism come from. It's why it's an ism and not a women's rights movement. 1st wave is more iffy, but the reason it's called 1st wave is because 2nd wavers wanted to pretend like they were continuing a tradition instead of just being more mad 60's/70's academic Marxists, which they were.

 

[Maurice Caine]

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So, Jews.

Where's this Fink guy gonna end up, is the million-dollar question.

 

[BiggerChungus]

It's not Jews, it's elite corporate oligarchs in general.

 

[Ser Prize]

It's not Jews, it's elite corporate oligarchs in general.

So...jews,

 

[AMHOLIO]

So...jews,

Always feel bad for the poor Jews with like 50$ to their name. When the fuck do they get in on the cabal's money? Or are they not jewish because of poverty?

 

[GenitalFetishist]

I was going to make a salty comment about how this sperging isn't helping anyone. Then I realized that this is the thread created specifically to quarantine the troonism/feminism/liberalism autism.

Carry on

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

I was going to make a salty comment about how this sperging isn't helping anyone. Then I realized that this is the thread created specifically to quarantine the troonism/feminism/liberalism autism.

Carry on

Oh thats alive and well in the original Tranny Sideshows thread.

 

[Ser Prize]

Always feel bad for the poor Jews with like 50$ to their name. When the fuck do they get in on the cabal's money? Or are they not jewish because of poverty?

It's not that every jew is into the rich cabal. It's that the rich cabal is almost entirely jews and they only really help out other jews.

 

[Male Idiot]

Always feel bad for the poor Jews with like 50$ to their name. When the fuck do they get in on the cabal's money? Or are they not jewish because of poverty?

They are bad jews if they aren't greedy enough.

That said, in case Shoah 2.0 happens, these poorer jews are there to die while the rich ones who caused Hitler 2.0 flee with their wealth. Than when they are dead, they will be used for muh "six gorillion." and all that.

That said, radfems and troons are just different insanity. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Oh thats alive and well in the original Tranny Sideshows thread.

The only way to prevent a thread from spiraling off into "mmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEN ARE DISGUSTING FILTH PERVERT PIGS I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE MEEEEEEEEEEEEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" is to ban feminists from it. Because feminism is a mental illness that revolves around hating men. They can't control themselves.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

The only way to prevent a thread from spiraling off into "mmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEN ARE DISGUSTING FILTH PERVERT PIGS I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE MEEEEEEEEEEEEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" is to ban feminists from it. Because feminism is a mental illness that revolves around hating men. They can't control themselves.

What I find hilarious about the RadFems in that thread is that they are utterly blind to how they are exactly like the Troons they Reee at and the fact that Troonism came from stealing the Feminist playbook and outdoing them in the oppression Olympics.

If you want to trigger that thread, just point that out.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I was going to make a salty comment about how this sperging isn't helping anyone. Then I realized that this is the thread created specifically to quarantine the troonism/feminism/liberalism autism.

Carry on

This really doesn't but most people are just mad as hell at something* (*men/women/feminist/your mom lol) and need a thread to sperg vent about it. Unfortunately when you derail threads made to laugh at people not associate with the group by blaming the lolcows on [group], you're going too far. It's nice to try and force people here with the sticky so they can sperg without getting negative reddit karma at least, maybe it lets them be less spergy irl?

Being mad about [group x] in a thread when the thread isn't about [group x] is how we get halal threads and why SJW shows/forums/podcast (who hate group X of white people) are so shit in addition to general retardation.

 

[Bat Dad]

Tell that to the girls that are killed by men while simply going out for a jog in the morning

I wonder how many of these boys were "killed by men while simply going out for a jog"?

Murder in the U.S.: victims by race/ethnicity and gender 2020 | Statista

In 2020, 3,573 murder victims in the United States were female.

www.statista.com

2nd wave feminism is completely Marxism with class replaced with gender.

...[R]adical feminism was deeply influenced by Marxism. While many w.l.m. "politicos" tried to fit women's liberation into pre-existing Marxist categories, radical feminists appropriated certain Marxist ideas and assumtions (specifically, concepts of class interest, class struggle, and materialism) and applied them to male-female relations. Maoism, especially, was instrumental in shaping radical feminist ideas about the nature of power and oppression.

Radical Feminism and Feminist Radicalism
Author(s): Ellen Willis
Source: Social Text, No. 9/10, The 60's without Apology (Spring - Summer, 1984), pp. 91-118
Published by: Duke University Press Stable
URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/466537

 

[mickey339]

Been brought up in this thread already and I have brought it up before in other threads: trannyism can SOLELY be blamed on the free market.

With private healthcare, medical corporations will always attempt to push unnecessary surgeries and medicine onto their consumers. Including trannyism.
Trannyism does not exist to any meaningful extend in countries with public health care and the few cases that do are due to American influence.
Feminism does not have any say in it at all. It might be brought up by trannys and pharma companies as a philosophical excuse but mark my words. Trannyism can SOLELY be blamed on the free market.

This is all middle class fantasy. Working class women didn't want to get into mens' spaces or take mens' jobs; they were already working all the same jobs right alongside their husbands and sons. In the 19th century, the vast majority of women worked the same jobs as men, and their children did as well. They worked in mines and factories, on farms, in bars and shops. Very few jobs were restricted only to men, chiefly those involving extremely heavy lifting or physical stress, such as dockworkers and military service. Even if they "stayed at home", women wove cloth, maintained the property, and manufactured household items. Children were expected to work as soon as they could hold a shit in. The idea of women being pretty stay-at-home wives and men being the breadwinners is lifestyle only the rich middle- and upper classes could indulge in, and only because they had servants doing most of the drudgework.

It was political activism that drove so many women out of the workplace and into the home to begin with - activism by proto-feminist prudes, who lived in the lap of luxury and felt compelled to take working class women out of the jobs they'd occupied for centuries, because those jobs offended their delicate, upper-class sensibilities; and by upper class men who were astonished that at the thought of women doing anything other than sitting around and whining about cake and tea and hats.

My mother worked in a slaughterhouse until she was 20. My grandmother worked in a cotton factory. Her grandmother was a pit brow lass. Her grandmother probably worked underground in the same mine.

Yeah, and this is the reason I consider traditionalism to be somewhat imbedded in society still.
The idea that women were 50s, home going housewives for all of history is both troon level delusion and a universally accepted "fact". Admittedly even some feminists use it as an argument that women have been oppressed for all of history.

Women get the same rights, but also the same responsibilities and expectations as men. In practice it would mean no alimony, no child support, no family "courts", no gender quotas and no one having to listen to any whining about "toxic masculinity" or "fratboy culture". If you're a woman that lives in a shithole that still has conscription, you're in the army now. Women in such an alternate reality would be allowed to both succeed and fail at their own merits. If they can't compete with men on an equal playing field, they won't get any quotas, programs or gibs, but instead they'd be told to either get good or get back in the kitchen. To summarise: Society would, contrary to our timeline, treat women as actual adults instead of systematically infantilising them. In such a scenario you could have your cake and eat it too by giving women rights and not humouring trannies.

That's a very silly thing to say.

Women get the same rights, but also the same responsibilities and expectations as men.

Women don't have the same responsibilities and expectations as men. They have far more.
In the US, women work what amounts to several days more than men every year. This is mostly due to unpaid housework which is a huge benefit to men. Women only work a little less than men in paid labour. Even when women out earn their husbands they still do more unpaid labour compared to how much they earn.
When looking at the pay women receive and growth of their careers, it turns out that women out earn men and have just as fast career growths when comparing childless singles of both genders.
Families with female breadwinners are unhappy and some of the most likely to separate. This is entirely due to the widespread uneven divide of labour. Couples with female breadwinners AND an even divide of house tasks are among the least likely to separate and some of the happiest. Even more so than traditional male breadwinner couples.

So women have more responsibilities and fulfil them, including supporting men, giving up their happiness, wealth and health doing so. And nobody gives a damn. No media outlet, conservative or liberal, as much as squeaks about this. Despite it gravely affecting millions of women and their families everyday.

P.S. this is true for all countries. America is just so much more effed up.


To address some specific points.

no alimony, no child support, no family "courts"

All these things exist as a way to financially support women for having taken on unpaid labor to the benefit of their husbands. Men would receive the same benefits if they did it instead. Hardly uneven expectations.

no one having to listen to any whining about "toxic masculinity" or "fratboy culture"

Broadly this is a question of wanting to change a certain widespread way of behaving that currently exists. Everyone does that.

 

[Crabouse-united]

@mickey339 For some reason I can't reply to you.

trannyism can SOLELY be blamed on the free market

Have you completely forgotten how this whole idea started inside of post WWI german academia by socialists and perverts? How is that a sign of the free market? How were the studies done by John Money a sign of the free market? How was the idea of queer theory, helmed by multiple french socialists and pedophiles such as Michel Foucault and Simone de Beauvoir a sign of the free market?

And lets not even adress the whole unpaid labor thing, if it isn't paid then it's not labor, simple as, when a family member helps you at your business without receiving a wage that's not considered labor, it's simple helping someone and that individual gets no real economic entitlement or shares in that business, is it a good thing? Yes but that's not work, same as a doing house chores while being a housewife.

And if we are going to talk about the economical aspects of women we must also adress how they're just not as competitive as men are when it comes to entrepreneurship and negotiating higher wages, they also quit more and engage in more part time work later down in life, mostly to raise a family but the ones that don't quit just end up as sad spinsters. And then there's the whole not partaking dangerous high paying jobs such as oil rig work, deep sea maintenance of machinery and etc.

This one talks about the rates of overwork point and how women stop doing that to engage with their family.

It's been many years since I've debated this so I'm demonstrabily not sharp and well witted when it comes to this subject and see some holes in my arguments but people with opinions like you are the exact example that I was talking about when I said that I didn't trust JK Rowling and her ilk, the mentality hasn't changed and we'll end up with troonism in the future again even if there's a moment of respite, that is, until society falls down completely and some junta strongman comes in and rounds up the genderspecials like how Stalin did.

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

If you want to play this "men and women are classes of people" horseshit, you'd be very disappointed to find that psychological studies show that both men and women prefer agreeing with women to a very high degree of confidence

This is provably false. People are less receptive to women's teachings compared to men's and girls are coached to have more masculine voices in high school debate so that thet can be listened to. If you gonna say shit with such confidence at least have the proof.

The women in my life don't constantly complain about sexual assault. It's not because they "don't trust me" as a man, it's because they're not psychotic harpies unhealthily obsessed with rape rape RAPE rape RAAAAAPE rape RAPE RAPE RAAAAAAAPE like feminazis are

Women are unlikely to discuss sexual assault among each other, let alone to other men. Sexual assault and rape is traumatic experience and it takes a lot of strength to repeatedly call out something that traumatizes you. This is why women are not likely to report their sexual assaults: it's easier to just forget it and move on.

You just don't know.

I wonder how many of these boys were "killed by men while simply going out for a jog"?

Men killing other men isnt a concern of feminism because it's not women's fault if men kill each other. Men killing men isnt even a concern for other men, as this point is only brought up when women talk about femicide.
If you want to bring it up, you should also consider "how many of those girls were killed by women while out for a jog". Your answer would be essentially zero, which shows that men are clearly more violent than women overall.

 

[Male Idiot]

This is provably false. People are less receptive to women's teachings compared to men's and girls are coached to have more masculine voices in high school debate so that thet can be listened to. If you gonna say shit with such confidence at least have the proof.

Women are unlikely to discuss sexual assault among each other, let alone to other men. Sexual assault and rape is traumatic experience and it takes a lot of strength to repeatedly call out something that traumatizes you. This is why women are not likely to report their sexual assaults: it's easier to just forget it and move on.

You just don't know.

Men killing other men isnt a concern of feminism because it's not women's fault if men kill each other. Men killing men isnt even a concern for other men, as this point is only brought up when women talk about femicide.
If you want to bring it up, you should also consider "how many of those girls were killed by women while out for a jog". Your answer would be essentially zero, which shows that men are clearly more violent than women overall.

That's just niggers. They aren't men. They are coloureds, the same way as a chimp isn't a man.

Also lol, housework being work. Obviously you never had to work hard in your life, or you pretended to clean Daddy's 1 square kilometer palace by yourself.

Even Chris knew housework was the easier part, that's why he wanted to be house husband. I would love to do housework instead of work. Piece of cake. But alas I'm not a pwetty princess in real life!

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

That's just niggers. They aren't men. They are coloureds, the same way as a chimp isn't a man.

Also lol, housework being work. Obviously you never had to work hard in your life, or you pretended to clean Daddy's 1 square kilometer palace by yourself.

Even Chris knew housework was the easier part, that's why he wanted to be house husband. I would love to do housework instead of work. Piece of cake. But alas I'm not a pwetty princess in real life!

Didn't Chris live in a hoarder house, so wouldn't his concept of housework be doing absolutely nothing?