I don't mean to be that person, but I'd expect this kind of obsession with WF in say an MMO like WoW since it is a very min max heavy MMO where people tend to care more about builds and ilevels and if you don't have the right talents or ilevel or what have you then you get a swift boot and a spot of mockery. FF14 doesn't strike me as an MMO where getting WF is as important and it's far friendlier in terms of just general class play where people don't have to really worry about being...competitive I guess? The devs focus more on fun rather than competition. Even if WF was reached, what then? You enjoy getting to brag about it for a bit and you get a fancy weapon to show off. That's it. That's literally it. You give away so much time and effort for what basically amounts to bragging rights for a couple of patches until the next ultimate or whatever. Seems like a lot of effort being put in just for validation. Validation which imo doesn't really mean much in FF14.There's always missing context. Hardcore raiders tend to be toxic and act like little bitches behind the curtain. Elysium for the longest time tried to maintain its status as an elite raiding guild, this alone led to a lot of drama as to who was "good enough" to be in Elysium, especially since the guild was a hotbed of people inviting personal friends.
Keep in mind many of them are passive aggressive, and are too lazy to lead. That's a community-wide phenomenon. "Anxiety" is often brought up unironically in this game as a reason for people not doing something.
And I swear none of these fuckers like the class they play.
I just thought the amount of stuff brought up that is incredibly mild is funny. This guy thinks he can get someone cancelled because someone said "jp fucks".
Elysium hasn't been able to do much for years except provide the community with drama. The group that got World First for The Epic of Alexander used a bunch of 3rd party tools to do so and got angsty at people for linking them to Elysium as some of them used to be in it. Of course, a bunch of drama resulted from them using 3rd party tools as "cheating" and their win not being legit.
Sad thing is, barely anyone cares about WF in 14, but you got a massive group of troons/incels who treat the game like a job, because it gives them a feeling of progression somewhere in their lives.
Though there is something to be said about behavior and running a raid group. If you don't have a spine and let this sort of people bully people around to get what they want, your raid group will fall apart.