I don't think even the most well paid DNC shills could spin whatever the fuck those "debates" were as a win for anybody but Donald Trump. Seriously, they could have had the candidates take turns reading the Zodiac Killers letters and it would have come off as more composed, well thought out, and relevant to the average American than whatever the fuck these nutjobs were discussing. The transcripts of it read like somebody set a bot to crawl the most unhinged parts of lefty Twitter and then had one of those AI writer bots take the results and attempt to make something coherent out of it all, after which it fried its own circuits to spare itself from being forced to produce anything so heinously idiotic ever again. If you took a recording of this back to 2007 and showed it to people they would write it off as some kind of desperate GOP propaganda. All I can really say is what the fuck.