Food Stamp (SNAP) Revocations - Sombody's gotta feed my five kids.

[Lysol]

This whiny bitch right here. It's better than having nothing and starving.

Fucking exactly my point.

So do we actually know what's going in the boxes or is this argument just autism with both sides assuming the worst/best for their own political benefit? If the food baskets are good, generic staples like soup stock, rice, eggs, this system could work well. If the box is "lol one piece of bread" it's fucking dumb. Pretty simple.

This is basically what I'm hoping it is, though as I said earlier in the thread I'd rather have it cut down to be like WIC benefits.

Goalpost shifting engaged!
Maybe you should actually read the articles you're citing to defend your bullshit arguments next time?

I'm shifting a goalpost I never originally made? God damn I'm more talented than I thought!

I would hardly call "they didn't buy the food I want them to buy" abuse of the system. SNAP is to buy food. If they're buying food, it's not abuse, regardless of the quality of food they're buying.

Is it not though, when the system was originally intended to only give the bare essentials necessary for someone to survive?

dunno if anyone pointed it out already, but the "overly liberal" EU already does this.
they give these no label not sellable packaged food to those in the poorest section of society. It's essential things like m.ilk, beans, cookies for little children, meat in cans and rice. My aunt receives and uses these. They don't taste that great but in such situations you're just glad to have food in your plate

And yet again the U.K. outdoes the U.S. with it's social programs.

 

[JaneThough]

Silly Jane, you know that people who've never set a single foot in a poor neighborhood let alone knew anybody from one intimately know what's best for them!

Go ahead and walk into a poor neighborhood and tell them you don't want them buying their shitty 711 pizza or twinkies anymore. I am sure they'll appreciate your expertise on their lives.

 

[Lysol]

Go ahead and walk into a poor neighborhood and tell them you don't want them buying their shitty 711 pizza or twinkies anymore. I am sure they'll appreciate your expertise on their lives.

Considering I come from one, that's duly noted.

Spoiler

 

[JaneThough]

Is it not though, when the system was originally intended to only give the bare essentials necessary for someone to survive?

The system is to give them money to buy food. You can't invent your own ideals about the system, then get angry when people use it as it was designed.

 

[Viridian]

Go ahead and walk into a poor neighborhood and tell them you don't want them buying their shitty 711 pizza or twinkies anymore. I am sure they'll appreciate your expertise on their lives.

Yeah, be sure to tell them to just get a job too. Call them lazy scammers a couple times as well. I'm sure they'll be so inspired!

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

So do we actually know what's going in the boxes or is this argument just autism with both sides assuming the worst/best for their own political benefit? If the food baskets are good, generic staples like soup stock, rice, eggs, this system could work well. If the box is "lol one piece of bread" it's fucking dumb. Pretty simple.

That's what I was trying to say. If they kept it simple, I could see it working.
Why are people acting like poor people don't know that food pantries exist though. Poor people who don't whine on Twitter at least know tricks to get food.

 

[Lysol]

The system is to give them money to buy food. You can't invent your own ideals about the system, then get angry when people use it as it was designed.

It's called "food stamps" because it used to literally be, stamps for food. It wasn't just giving the poor currency, it was pretty specific about what the hell you could actually get with them, because it wasn't supposed to be indefinite life support.

 

[JaneThough]

It's called "food stamps" because it used to literally be, stamps for food. It wasn't just giving the poor currency, it was pretty specific about what the hell you could actually get with them, because it wasn't supposed to be indefinite life support.

And suddenly pizza is not food?

What was it that I said that wasn't that it's money for food?

 

[Oglooger]

the moral here is that if niggers weren't abusing the system so much, we wouldn't be resorting to this.

 

[Lysol]

And suddenly pizza is not food?

What was it that I said that wasn't that it's money for food?

Pizza is a bare necessity for survival? Holy shit I think you're onto something!

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

TBH there are ways to survive being poor without food stamps. If you have some skills even being poor, you can at least do chores and odd jobs for money to get food, without having to rely on food stamps to survive.
I kind of wish the government or places would teach this to low income people because if you're at least good at hustling, you don't really need food stamps.
:powerlevel:For months when my family was out of work, we did odd jobs on Craigslist just to buy food.

 

[JaneThough]

Pizza is a bare necessity for survival? Holy shit I think you're onto something!

I'm going to make this real simple for you, then I'm done.

Food stamps = money for food
Pizza = food
Therefor, food stamps may buy pizza. Because, as they are intended to buy food, and pizza is a food, their use is valid and not abuse.

Your opinions on what poor people can and cannot eat have zero to do with this.

 

[NeverHappened]

TBH there are ways to survive being poor without food stamps. If you have some skills even being poor, you can at least do chores and odd jobs for money to get food, without having to rely on food stamps to survive.
I kind of wish the government or places would teach this to low income people because if you're at least good at hustling, you don't really need food stamps.
:powerlevel:For months when my family was out of work, we did odd jobs on Craigslist just to buy food.

A lot of poor people tend to be very bad at problem solving. I wasn't exaggerating when I said that there are poor people that don't know what they do with a bag of rice. You have to teach them. You have to force them to learn. They won't google that shit.

 

[Lysol]

I'm going to make this real simple for you, then I'm done.

Food stamps = money for food
Pizza = food
Therefor, food stamps may buy pizza. Because, as they are intended to buy food, and pizza is a food, their use is valid and not abuse.

Your opinions on what poor people can and cannot eat have zero to do with this.

So the fact that the entire system was derived as a way for families/people to simply get the bare necessities for life, so that they would still have the motivation to improve their lot in life, has nothing to do with my issue with this system?

Also, the amount of people on EBT who are only on it because they can get luxury food items and not have to work for them is a growing problem.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

A lot of poor people tend to be very bad at problem solving. I wasn't exaggerating when I said that they are poor people that don't know what they do with a bag of rice. You have to teach them. You have to force them to learn. They won't google that shit.

Yeah, I'm aware. That's why I was saying it's too bad that more of this can't be done. You have to know how to survive on the street basically. It's too bad, honestly.

 

[AA EE OO]

I'm going to make this real simple for you, then I'm done.

Food stamps = money for food
Pizza = food
Therefor, food stamps may buy pizza. Because, as they are intended to buy food, and pizza is a food, their use is valid and not abuse.

Your opinions on what poor people can and cannot eat have zero to do with this.

Actually food stamps typically cannot be used to buy prepared/cooked food. Also see the previous post about Papa Murphys.

 

[Oglooger]

don't want to eat shit prepackaged food?
Get a job?
are you a child that needs an education, we have a thing called scholarships.
we also have soup kitchens, hunger drives, church and family members to help you get back on your feet.
if you relied on the government to survive, that makes you nothing but a parasite.

I'm going to make this real simple for you, then I'm done.

Food stamps = money for food
Pizza = food
Therefor, food stamps may buy pizza. Because, as they are intended to buy food, and pizza is a food, their use is valid and not abuse.

Your opinions on what poor people can and cannot eat have zero to do with this.

pizza is a luxury good given as a service. it's not basic in giving nutrients to survive and find work, therefore food stamps shouldn't buy them.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

LOL, is this going to be the most controversial thread on Kiwifarms?

 

[JaneThough]

I think it's time to label this Locally Sourced. Too many salty people upset they can't make poor people just eat beans.

Actually food stamps typically cannot be used to buy prepared/cooked food. Also see the previous post about Papa Murphys.

Good point.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

don't want to eat shit prepackaged food?
Get a job?
are you a child that needs an education, we have a thing called scholarships.
we also have soup kitchens, hunger drives, church and family members to help you get back on your feet.
if you relied on the government to survive, that makes you nothing but a parasite.

pizza is a luxury good given as a service. it's not basic in giving nutrients to survive and find work, therefore food stamps shouldn't buy them.

"Get back on your feet" implies you're talking about people who've lost their job and have temporarily fallen on hard times, but a lot of Americans grew up poor to parents who grew up poor. Their families are in the same situation and they live near other people like themselves, so the churches they go to can't provide everyone with enough food because they can't afford it. What should be done about those people? They're going to be on food stamps forever unless something changes dramatically. You can't just say 'get a job', because that clearly hasn't worked very well.