Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[Balr0g]

I think Merc will rebound. But if the RedBull team can keep up the strong performance and what is even more important if Perez can keep up with his recent success then I see a Verstappen title coming our way. That would be great the old Hybrid era ending with another car as champion and not 8 years Silver in a row.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Who will score a point first? Haas or Williams? I like what I've been seeing from Mick, damn shame he couldn't participate in Q2 at France, but the Williams car probably has got more pace than the Haas... which really isn't saying a whole lot.

 

[Coccxys]

It would be great if either Mick or Russell could pick up those elusive points for their team. They're both standing out against their (par driver) teammates and in those cars that's all you can do.

 

[Full Race Replay]

Who will score a point first? Haas or Williams? I like what I've been seeing from Mick, damn shame he couldn't participate in Q2 at France, but the Williams car probably has got more pace than the Haas... which really isn't saying a whole lot.

imo the williams seem pretty mixed in with most of the other backmarkers like the romeos, alpines, and the astons to a lesser extent while the hass's are truly in a league of their own right now. I think russel is more likely, I would be quite surprised if he doesn't get any points for williams this season.

 

[New Fag]

WARNING: might just be a rumour.


From 2023 the Russian GP will take place at Ignora Drive 54km north of St Petersburg on the Leningrad Oblast.

The CEO of Formula 1 Stefano Domenicali said that in 2023 the Formula 1 stage in Russia will be held in St. Petersburg, and not in Sochi. Domenicali spoke about this at the Scarlet Sails festival, which takes place in St. Petersburg.

"Formula 1 in 2023 will be held in St. Petersburg on the Igora Drive track," RIA Novosti quotes Domenicali as saying.

Note that the Igora Drive track is located in the Leningrad Region.

Earlier, there were rumors about the transfer of the race to St. Petersburg. Moreover, the account in the "instagram" of the federal territory "Sirius", on which the race is held in Sochi, said in the comments to one of the entries about the transfer of the competition to St. Petersburg. But soon the press service of the territory apologized for the false information and denied it.

https://archive.md/9qEq5

and an elevation map of the circuit.



Edit: confirmation from F1 https://archive.md/62fNu

 

[The Grognard]

It's a small track but at least it's not fucking Sochi, a glorified parking lot of a track.

 

[Coccxys]

Oh here we go, "everytime you go past a redbull report they held you up and see if we can get them a penalty ". How about you try rising to the challenge you always say you want rather than constantly trying to get the FIA to hobble the competitors. All this Merc/FIA bullshittery makes me serious question if Ferrari engines were all that illegal when they were challenging merc.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Everyone in Q2 within three quarters of a second and the places 10 through 13 within like .005s.

The field is very tight, it seems. Might become a great race... though I wouldn't mind a bit of rain and wind to shake things up tomorrow.

Oh here we go, "everytime you go past a redbull report they held you up and see if we can get them a penalty ". How about you try rising to the challenge you always say you want rather than constantly trying to get the FIA to hobble the competitors. All this Merc/FIA bullshittery makes me serious question if Ferrari engines were all that illegal when they were challenging merc.

To claim that the RB cost them 2 tenths of a second is just patheticly stupid.

 

[Balr0g]

Hamilton lost to Bottas but Bottas gets 3 places added. So we have Verstappen. Hamilton, Norris, Perez, Bottas, Gasly. Three Red Bulls, two Mercedes and one Mclaren. Here is hoping Norris overtakes Hamilton at the start and makes his life hard

 

[Pee Cola]

You could not invent a driver more suited to the demands of RB and it is a shame Perez isn't their #1 driver, cause he deserves a title. He's this generation's Massa/Barrichello.

In years to come, Checo will probably be in the list of Top 10 F1 drivers that never won a WDC. I wish this wasn't the case, as he is WDC material. But Max...

I think Merc will rebound. But if the RedBull team can keep up the strong performance and what is even more important if Perez can keep up with his recent success then I see a Verstappen title coming our way. That would be great the old Hybrid era ending with another car as champion and not 8 years Silver in a row.

Even if Mercedes rebounds, they're still going to have a hard time trying to win the 2021 Constructor's Championship. The thing is that RB is participating in F1 as a team.

Unless the FIA decides to roll over and offer to take Toto and Hambone roughly from behind, Max would have to be the 2021 WDC favourite. Max can drive, the RB16B is a great car and Checo is a strong team player as seen in the last two Grands Prix.

It would be great if either Mick or Russell could pick up those elusive points for their team. They're both standing out against their (par driver) teammates and in those cars that's all you can do.

Mick deserves better. I can still see him joining AR once Kimi retires as a stepping stone to Ferrari. I know Ferrari isn't that great rn, but there's family history there and I'm sure Ferrari knows it.

Hamilton lost to Bottas but Bottas gets 3 places added. So we have Verstappen. Hamilton, Norris, Perez, Bottas, Gasly. Three Red Bulls, two Mercedes and one Mclaren. Here is hoping Norris overtakes Hamilton at the start and makes his life hard

Lando is more likely to be picked off by Checo than Hambone is by Lando, even though I'd love to see Lando on the podium again.

 

[Coccxys]

Norris is just destroying Ricciardo in that car. Got to feel for Ricciardo, I think he was under the impression he would be the team leader over there.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Norris is just destroying Ricciardo in that car. Got to feel for Ricciardo, I think he was under the impression he would be the team leader over there.

I don't know if Ricciardo is or ever was WDC material skillwise, but he's such a likeable guy that on merit of that alone, he deserves the title.

 

[Balr0g]

I don't know if Ricciardo is or ever was WDC material skillwise, but he's such a likeable guy that on merit of that alone, he deserves the title.

I think Ricciardo has enough skill to be a WDC but I think his two years at Renault "ruined" his skills. But having him as a team mate and as a driver should be something that any team wants.

 

[Pee Cola]

I don't know if Ricciardo is or ever was WDC material skillwise, but he's such a likeable guy that on merit of that alone, he deserves the title.

If there was a World Drivers Likability Championship, Danny Ric would be (at least) 7 times World Champion.

As for WDC potential, I don't think Danny Ric is ruthless enough. Being a prick isn't really something Aussies usually excel at. The last Aussie F1 WDC, Alan Jones in 1980, could be quite cunty when he put his mind to it.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Every driver is happy to be on the podium, but Ricciardo seems especially ecstatic and him being such a likeable guy, you can't help but celebrate with him. And him doing the shoey is just hilarious every time.
Like, the best podiums last year were Perez' long overdue victory, Ricciardo's bet-winning podiums and Vettel's confidence-boosting podium.

Also:

Lando: "Daniel should not have done that."
Also Lando: "In his position, I would have done the same."
Also also Lando: "I don't want to complain about it."
Lando, one final time: "So here I am complaining about it."

okay I guess . . .

Some interesting stuff, especially in the second part of the video:
Schumacher has to sit in his car in a somewhat kinked position, which most likely doesn't interfere with his ability to drive the car a lot, but it is kinda interesting that he's been performing so well while sitting in a mildly uncomfortable way.
Bottas says his outburst in France has no impact on his chances to get a contract for next year. I concur, the choice most likely was already made (or the requirements to extend his contract have been set). But a team ignoring input from their drivers is never a good sign. Vettel's entire last season was him being forced to do strategies that did not do him any favors, we see that now to a smaller degree with Bottas. I don't know how much of a leg he had to stand on when saying the French GP was a two-stopper or how ardent he was about defending that point (hindsight is 20/20 after all and maybe he was just spitballing the idea without much confidence before the race)... but assuming Bottas indeed insisted that the race needs two stops and Merc just not listening would bode badly for the Finn and his chances next season.

I really wonder where he'll end up in case Merc does not extend his contract.

 

[WhiskeyZuluLima]

W Series had their first race of the season - their second 'real world' season, having started in 2019 - at Austria yesterday after the F1 qualifying, and I rather enjoyed the race.
Jamie Chadwick, defending champion, got turned in T1 early on by Jessica Hawkins which dropped her back to 15th of 18 from around 4th, a late race safety car due to a car stopped between 3 and 4 left a 5 minute + a lap sprint, so about four minutes, and for most of the half hour race regardless there would be a few pairs of cars two wide.

I think it's also really cool to point out that I think W Series got the best calendar of all the F1 support series in terms of taking that slot of the one formula series in support: Styria, Austria, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Netherlands, America, and Mexico. To me, Hungaroring is the weakest of those tracks, but in those F3 cars it'll still be banging to watch. Yes, they're not going to countries where the status quo may be upset by their presence, which is a bit of a shame I feel, however equally I don't especially like the tracks there anyway - good tracks, and good politics, must be a correlation there surely.

Since I cannot quickly find the full race posted on YT, I'll just state that the results are spoilered below, in the UK the race was on Channel 4 and I know it is available to be watched through there, I'm too lazy to look for elsewhere, please do give it a go - it's good shit it were.

Spoiler: W SERIES RESULTS

1	Alice Powell [GB]
2	Sarah Moore [GB]
3	Fabienne Wohlwend [LI]
4	Belen Garcia [ES]
5	Miki Koyama [JP]
6	Jamie Chadwick [GB]
7	Nerea Marti [ES]
8	Irina Sirdorkova [RU]
9	Gosia Rdest [PL]
10	Ayla Agren [NO]
11	Bruna Tomaselli [BR]
12	Beitske Visser [NL]
13	Emma Kimilainen [FI]
14	Sabré Cook [US]
15	Abbie Eaton [GB]
16	Jessica Hawkins [GB]
17	Vicky Piria [IT]
DNF	Marta Garcia [ES]

 

[Pee Cola]

Spoiler: W SERIES RESULTS

1	Alice Powell [GB]
2	Sarah Moore [GB]
3	Fabienne Wohlwend [LI]
4	Belen Garcia [ES]
5	Miki Koyama [JP]
6	Jamie Chadwick [GB]
7	Nerea Marti [ES]
8	Irina Sirdorkova [RU]
9	Gosia Rdest [PL]
10	Ayla Agren [NO]
11	Bruna Tomaselli [BR]
12	Beitske Visser [NL]
13	Emma Kimilainen [FI]
14	Sabré Cook [US]
15	Abbie Eaton [GB]
16	Jessica Hawkins [GB]
17	Vicky Piria [IT]
DNF	Marta Garcia [ES]

I didn't know Abbie Eaton was racing in the W Series. She was great on The Grand Tour, and she can drive. Will have to check the W Series out.

 

[WhiskeyZuluLima]

I didn't know Abbie Eaton was racing in the W Series. She was great on The Grand Tour, and she can drive. Will have to check the W Series out.

Her first season, that's why! She was actually one of the rather vocal critics of W Series' inception, which makes her participation rather stand out against the rest.

 

[LiveFromNS]

RE: W Series, I could only find a French replay yesterday but watched that. There was one point where 5 or 6 were coming out of the final turn quite stacked up. As was said, it was an entertaining race in various ways. If anyone wants the link, I will dig it up.

Soooo, very hot for race day (53C track temp currently). See what that does with the tires. With the way qualifying played out yesterday, it could be a tight battle throughout the field unless a team or two got their race start horribly wrong, or likewise spot-on.

Let's hope for a wild one!

Fucking Gasly! smh

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Fucking Gasly! smh

Race incident with Leclerc, got his tyre slashed and couldn't steer in the next corner. Really unfortunate.

Edit:
Dunno, this race is a bit more boring than the last. But Verstappen is leading, so that's a plus. Wonder if the hard tyres will hold up to the end, Bottas has some bad blistering on his right rear afaik.

Edit2: Quite a race from Leclerc and Perez move against Bottas almost worked. Just one more lap, and he would have gotten him.