Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[Pee Cola]

Perez move against Bottas almost worked. Just one more lap, and he would have gotten him.

I'm disappointed that Checo couldn't quite catch Bottas in the end, but the strategy was sound (albeit a lap late as suggested). TBH I'm more disappointed that Hambone got fastest lap, but I guess he had the luxury of asking for fresh rubber so he could go balls out on the final lap. RB is still inching ahead of M-B in the Constructor's Championship, so that's something.

I can't be too disappointed about Bottas being on the podium, especially given that M-B will still manage to find a way to make him feel like shit for his performance this weekend, and I feel sorry for the guy.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I can't be too disappointed about Bottas being on the podium, especially given that Mercedes will still manage to find a way to make him feel like shit and I feel sorry for the guy.

My hunch: "If Bottas had been closer to Hamilton on the grid to support him during the race, we would have been flexible enough with out strategy to make Hamilton win."

 

[Pee Cola]

My hunch: "If Bottas had been closer to Hamilton on the grid to support him during the race, we would have been flexible enough with out strategy to make Hamilton win."

Yep. Bottas has spent more time this season under the bus than he has in the cockpit.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I kinda hope we'll get rain next weekend... having two consecutive races on the same track isn't bad, but it's nice to shake up things by alternative track layouts (like Sakhir/Bahrain) or by different race conditions.

But, then again, if all things stay the same, we can at least see how things change with drivers now having a better understanding how the track and the memories from this race fresh in their memory.

Yep. Bottas has spent more time this season under the bus than he has in the cockpit.

Well, who else is there to blame? Hamilton? Nah, that would be wacist.

Edit:
Watching the highlight reel, a lot of stuff actually happened.

Gasly and his collision with Leclerc, which was just unfrotunate and forced Gasly to retire. Leclerc had a great recovery drive though. Leclerc's overtake on Räikkonen was superbly done, he held back a little in one corner, so he will get DRS once more the next straight.
Russel being forced to retire was a shame, he did so well before.
Perez might have been able to make it to the podium, if his pitstop had been quicker.
Räikkonen had a pretty good race, his hard->medium strategy paid off.

It's just a shame Vettel did not get further ahead, I guess the track just doesn't favor AM, given that Stroll didn't do that much better.

It's quite remarkable that not a single driver used the supposedly best strategy that Pirelli suggested (ie: reds and mediums).

 

[Balr0g]

It's just a shame Vettel did not get further ahead, I guess the track just doesn't favor AM, given that Stroll didn't do that much better.

I heard that Vettel build a setup that was more fit for a rain race. That would explain why Stroll defeated him so clearly. And Ferrari was far better then last race. Probably because the track is less demanding to the front tyres which is a weakness of the current Ferrari. The times of Leclerc were close to that what the leading cars could do.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I heard that Vettel build a setup that was more fit for a rain race.

All the more reason to hope for a rain race next week lol
Vettel's race this time was somewhat unremarkable, no particularly good moves (like his overtake against Ocon last race) but also nothing bad... I hoped that the other cars might need to pit again in the end and that the AMs might be able to stay out, to make up some places, but no luck with that.
I really hope AM will continue their upwards trend and be in striking distance of regular podiums next season.

And Ferrari was far better then last race.

Absolutely. Ferrari seems to be good at accelerating out of slow corners and up hills but lacks topspeed on long straights so the twisting track of the Styrian GP is right up their alley.
But even so, Leclerc was on fire this race. A great recovery race and a testament to his abilities as a driver.

 

[LiveFromNS]

It's quite remarkable that not a single driver used the supposedly best strategy that Pirelli suggested (ie: reds and mediums).

Just a reminder too that the tyres for next weekend will be one step softer. So, the hard will be what was the medium today. Will that produce two stops across the field? Will they try and got through Q2 using Hards? That will also be interesting to see how the lower step range will change the racing.

 

[Pee Cola]

I kinda hope we'll get rain next weekend... having two consecutive races on the same track isn't bad, but it's nice to shake up things by alternative track layouts (like Sakhir/Bahrain) or by different race conditions.

I know it's not quite the same, but two races in a row at the same track reminds me of the Australian Supercars series. Most rounds have at least two races over a weekend.

Hopefully Styrian throws a curve ball to the mix (such as a massive downpour) and spices the next race up a bit.

Gasly and his collision with Leclerc, which was just unfrotunate and forced Gasly to retire. Leclerc had a great recovery drive though. Leclerc's overtake on Räikkonen was superbly done, he held back a little in one corner, so he will get DRS once more the next straight.

Sucks to be Gasly for landing on the wrong side of a racing incident, but fair play to Leclerc for his recovery. Sainz also put in a decent peformance. In context, it was a pretty good weekend for Ferrari.

Russel being forced to retire was a shame, he did so well before.

That was tragic. He did really well to hustle that Williams up to 8th, especially given the extreme heat that eventually cooked it.

Perez might have been able to make it to the podium, if his pitstop had been quicker.

So many "what ifs" with Checo, but at least RB gained a little more breathing space in the Constructors' Championship. M-B is still a threat on paper, but it all depends on Bottas' morale and we all know how good M-B is at boosting that.

Räikkonen had a pretty good race, his hard->medium strategy paid off.

It always fills me with joy when Kimi has a good race. I wonder how many more years he has left in him before he decides he's had enough of this hobby?

It's just a shame Vettel did not get further ahead, I guess the track just doesn't favor AM, given that Stroll didn't do that much better.

Seb and Stroll the Younger did well to hold their own. wtf I like Stroll now

Meanwhile, Masi only went and pissed on Max's bonfire immediately after the race. Maybe he had to do this as a pre-emptive strike before M-B complained about Hambone's hurt fee-fees? [ original | archive ]

Spoiler: REEEEEEEEE

Verstappen’s post-race burn-out celebration “will not be tolerated” again​

2021 Styrian Grand Prix​

27th June 2021, 19:59 | Written by Dieter Rencken and Keith Collantine

The post-race burnout Max Verstappen performed after the Styrian Grand Prix will not be allowed in future, the FIA’s race director Michael Masi has confirmed.

The Red Bull driver slowed to a stop on the pit straight as he finished the race and spun his rear wheels, performing a burn-out in front of his team.

However Masi took a dim view of the act and contacted Verstappen’s team “as soon as it happened” to warn them he must not do it again.

“It was not an ideal situation, which is why I spoke to the team immediately and told them accordingly that something that would not be tolerated in future,” said Masi.

Formula 1’s sporting regulations state drivers are permitted to celebrate after taking the chequered flag. Article 43.3 states: “the winning driver […] may perform an act of celebration before reaching parc fermé, provided any such act […] is performed safely and does not endanger other drivers or any officials.”

Masi may point to a previous incident at the Red Bull Ring as an example of how slowing at the finishing line can be dangerous.
In 2015 Nicholas Latifi ploughed into the stationary car of Roberto Merhi at the end of a Formula Renault 3.5 series race at the same circuit. Merhi, who was suspected to have slowed down in order to lay rubber at his grid position for the following race, was thrown out of the race weekend.

 

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[Coccxys]

Wherein the FIA basically admit to legislating the results because it is close.

 

[Coccxys]

Audi/Porsche joining the future engine development discussions.



Only sounds like a testing the waters move but another engine manufacturer would be a good thing.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I wouldn't mind more engine suppliers, possibly even race teams.
As long as we don't end up with pre-qualifyings, it's all nice and dandy... and even then, maybe pre-qualifyings would act as an inceptive for the slower teams to improve instead of being contend with following the pack, like Haas is doing this season.

 

[New Fag]

Audi/Porsche joining the future engine development discussions.

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Only sounds like a testing the waters move but another engine manufacturer would be a good thing.

Been hearing this every year since 2014 at least, I'll believe it when I see it.

Anyway the main reason I'm here, Igora Drive the soon to be new home of the Russian GP is getting an extension to around 5km and it's the first time I've been excited about a track announcement since Malaysia 1999. The final sector is now a 17m hill and 4 turns with a 12% gradient up and down into a hair pin into a 8% gradient drag race to the finish line.

https://archive.md/gX1wO

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Been hearing this every year since 2014 at least, I'll believe it when I see it.

Anyway the main reason I'm here, Igora Drive the son to be new home of the Russian GP is getting an extension to around 5km and it's the first time I've been excited about a track announcement since Malaysia 1999. The final sector is now a 17m hill and 4 turns with a 12% gradient up and down into a hair pin into a 8% gradient drag race to the finish line.

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https://archive.md/gX1wO

So let me get this straight.
Socchi, arguably the worst track on the entire calender, the most boring, bland and uninteresting race, that (despite DRS, I might ad) has gone entire races without a single overtake...

...is going to be replaced by a track that looks like something I would have built in Rollercoaster Tycoon?
Best. Fucking. Timeline.

 

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