Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

[Jolly Copulation]

While I do support the idea of buying local whenever you can, these guys display the usual lack of understanding of both logistics and the value of money. While yes, a Gucci fursuit maker will be able to make a good profit on these things, most fursuit makers are operating on a razor-thin margin once manpower costs are accounted for. If you stop to calculate how many man-hours are needed to make one of those, a lot of these makers end up working for less than minimum wage.

As for logistics... well... a large corporation made all that shag carpet material they're wearing...


They do. They're just the degenerates who are good at keeping their degeneracy under wraps. You know, like sane people.

Oh for sure some textile manufacturer is making bank on the fandom.

Most furfags don't have self-awareness or mental filters for the shit they say or type and that's just as well because milk of lolcow is the sweetest of nectars. The degenerates who manage to keep it under wraps become Kiwis; The ones who don't, end up with a thread...

 

[Uncle Warren]

The ones who don't, end up with a thread...

I know it may seem like news but if that were true we'd have a hell of a lot more threads and would end up looking like a furry version of ED.

 

[Lou’s Biggest Fan]

I know it may seem like news but if that were true we'd have a hell of a lot more threads and would end up looking like a furry version of ED.

Which really speaks volumes to just how fucked a lot of the people who do end up with their own threads have to be to be considered exceptional by furry standards.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

> Makes a furry convention topic
> 2 weeks later George Floyd happens
> We still have to follow

Spoiler: Rule 4.

Avoid politics. Eccentric political views is a frequent component of a person's humor value. Try to avoid debate.

All's I'm saying is that the injection of BLM into convention matters due to Mr. Floyd's death makes it next to impossible to follow that rule to an acceptable tee. Eventually the topic of conversation is going to have to steer political if we want to have any semblance of a fandom post-2021.

I haven't gone to a local convention that I've even ran shit behind the scenes at for a few years in a full two years. I don't plan on returning, not even to ghost. They don't deserve my dollar nor my attention. And that is exactly how you vote against these people.

Lowered attendance and profit speaks volumes. Remember this. Boycott your local Antifa-led cons today. (And don't you dare let Antifa take the reins of THAT. Found that one out the hard way.)

 

[Corn Flakes]

> Makes a furry convention topic
> 2 weeks later George Floyd happens
> We still have to follow

Spoiler: Rule 4.

Avoid politics. Eccentric political views is a frequent component of a person's humor value. Try to avoid debate.

All's I'm saying is that the injection of BLM into convention matters due to Mr. Floyd's death makes it next to impossible to follow that rule to an acceptable tee. Eventually the topic of conversation is going to have to steer political if we want to have any semblance of a fandom post-2021.

I haven't gone to a local convention that I've even ran shit behind the scenes at for a few years in a full two years. I don't plan on returning, not even to ghost. They don't deserve my dollar nor my attention. And that is exactly how you vote against these people.

Lowered attendance and profit speaks volumes. Remember this. Boycott your local Antifa-led cons today. (And don't you dare let Antifa take the reins of THAT. Found that one out the hard way.)

I get what you're talking about, but I always saw that rule more as "bash the cow's political views as much as you want, but don't sperg out against/with other farmers".

Many great lolcows are practically defined by their political views, and we still talk about them. It's when someone who shares a similar political position as the thread subject shows up and tries to white knight their politics in the thread and argue with people that things go to hell. Hence that rule.

 

[Dahmer]

#Plushgate

Apparently they were a transphobe & a cub fetishist. The art that Crowz (I'm assuming) drew was of a cub being given oral sex apparently. Haven't found the image in question yet. Kinda don't want to.
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Rate me late if I missed it, but I have the images from the cub porn debacle with Crowzperch and Stiltpup.

First, images of the character to show that it does indeed appear to be a VERY young child. The last one is a crop of the oral sex picture OP mentioned.

Spoiler: Very NSFW

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

Rate me late if I missed it, but I have the images from the cub porn debacle with Crowzperch and Stiltpup.

First, images of the character to show that it does indeed appear to be a VERY young child. The last one is a crop of the oral sex picture OP mentioned.
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Spoiler: Very NSFW

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Semper fucking Fi, how did you get this?

 

[Dahmer]

Semper fucking Fi, how did you get this?

Just a little bit of Google fu. Unfortunately I couldn't find the full image for the oral sex pic but I remember when this whole situation was blowing up on Twitter. She DFE'd everything to do with the character, "left the fandom", and has since come back under a new handle. https://twitter.com/CrowParadeLLC

 

[Thistle]

They do. They're just the degenerates who are good at keeping their degeneracy under wraps. You know, like sane people.

Can confirm they exist, and if they aren't keeping it under wraps, they at least keep to their own small 'trustworthy' circles of others who don't like to draw attention.

 

[Bec]

> Makes a furry convention topic
> 2 weeks later George Floyd happens
> We still have to follow

Spoiler: Rule 4.

Avoid politics. Eccentric political views is a frequent component of a person's humor value. Try to avoid debate.

All's I'm saying is that the injection of BLM into convention matters due to Mr. Floyd's death makes it next to impossible to follow that rule to an acceptable tee. Eventually the topic of conversation is going to have to steer political if we want to have any semblance of a fandom post-2021.

I haven't gone to a local convention that I've even ran shit behind the scenes at for a few years in a full two years. I don't plan on returning, not even to ghost. They don't deserve my dollar nor my attention. And that is exactly how you vote against these people.

Lowered attendance and profit speaks volumes. Remember this. Boycott your local Antifa-led cons today. (And don't you dare let Antifa take the reins of THAT. Found that one out the hard way.)

Honestly rule 4 is kind of hard to follow in 2020.

 

[Thistle]

Honestly rule 4 is kind of hard to follow in 2020.

Agreed, for the moment this shit kinda goes hand in hand given how vocal lefty furries have been, that said there is a thread dedicated specifically to leftists & antifa.

Altfurry and conservatives have their own too :^)

 

[Uncle Warren]

Honestly rule 4 is kind of hard to follow in 2020.

Agreed, for the moment this shit kinda goes hand in hand given how vocal lefty furries have been, that said there is a thread dedicated specifically to leftists & antifa.

Altfurry and conservatives have their own too :^)

It's actually really simple. Politics affecting the value of a certain funny chimp out? Talking about it isn't a problem.
Politics making you want to talk about why your side is correct and everyone else is wrong and a [INSERT THING HERE] and you spend pages upon pages of sperging the fuck out for no reason other than to find at least someone who will agree with you? You're a sped and that's how rule 4 was made.

 

[Pinball 2000]

Hey, just wanted to let y'all know that I'm still working on revising and updating my CCFC writeup, I've been very busy with work and it turns out there's a lot of revisionism I need to make as I'm going back and fixing a few errors. But more importantly, we got a new update on the ongoing CCFC drama (which I'll work into my revised writeup eventually).

The quick version: Nitro showed up on twitter with a new account (archive), pretending that nothing happened and he never committed several thousand dollars worth of charity fraud. Other furries caught he was back on twitter almost immediately and started dunking on Nitro, which caused him to tweet out this gem (archive):
EDIT: Nitro locked his twitter account after posting this lol

Besides Nitro being Mad at the Internet, this post and his twitter account very conveniently confirmed a bunch of new information I did not know about Nitro (but now do):
-I can confirm the furry white knight he is dating (archive) is the same one from the censored post I made a couple of weeks ago. I originally censored it at the request of the user who leaked the information to me, but I no longer see a point if Nitro is going to out them himself. UPDATE: They've since dumped Nitro after finally realizing it was a bad idea to be publicly associated with him.
-One of Nitro's tweets links to his Instagram account which reposts most of his current photos (archives don't seem to work on Instagram so I can't archive the account, sorry). I put a few notable images from the account in the spoiler below:

Spoiler: Highlights of Nitro's Instagram

Nitro himself, post was dated June 17 2018

Presumably family or relatives of Nitro

A post where nitro was shilling for a furry community website he made. The website still appears to be up and live as of this writing, but there is absolutely nothing on it so it's not even worth archiving.

There's this photograph of someone's fursuit with some really weird comments so I'm gonna screenshot the comments on this one. What I think is happening is that he wore/borrowed a friend's fursuit and is claiming it belongs to him, with several commenters calling him out and saying otherwise.

-One of Nitro's twitter followers is his "production company" (archive) UPDATE: Now locked lol which doesn't seem to have much on it other than some shilling for what I assume is some DJ work. What is notable is that some of the posts link to yet another Instagram account that Nitro owns. There's really nothing all that interesting on this account other than some selfies, though.
-There's also a tweet from February 28, 2018 (archive) that links to a (now deleted) gofundme called "ending-up-on-the-street". The date seems to line up with one of my earlier posts in this thread where I found his court records and found he was sued by a former landlord in March for unpaid rent and/or damages.
-Nitro's also following a concerning number of minors (archive) on his twitter. As of this writing, he's following 232 accounts and going just by doing a ctrl+F in the list for users listing their age in their profile, there are 27 users who have an age of 17 or under. 9 of his 53 followers are underage, and it looks like all of those 9 were followed by Nitro first. Presumably, he's trying to ally up with younger furries who don't know anything about his shitty reputation but that's still creepy as fuck.

Most of the furry replies to Nitro coming back online are the usual "fuck off and die" kind of posts you'd expect in furry drama, but this one (archive) was way too funny to not share:

 

[omori]

Has this video ever been brought up while CCFC was being talked about? Donations are actively being collected by a fursuiter. I’m unsure if Nitro requested he go around the con with a bucket or he volunteered to do so. The suiter in question is Xusho, who’s well known in the community for being deaf. Donations for a disease that’s taken one of their own, being ask for by a deaf guy would make a lot of people empty their wallets.

If someone could archive that be great.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Has this video ever been brought up while CCFC was being talked about? Donations are actively being collected by a fursuiter. I’m unsure if Nitro requested he go around the con with a bucket or he volunteered to do so. The suiter in question is Xusho, who’s well known in the community for being deaf. Donations for a disease that’s taken one of their own, being ask for by a deaf guy would make a lot of people empty their wallets.

If someone could archive that be great.

Archived. Doesn't look too out of the ordinary, but at least it's video evidence of what happened.

Now excuse me while I get a few beers to wash all this furry cringe away.

 

[Pinball 2000]

Has this video ever been brought up while CCFC was being talked about? Donations are actively being collected by a fursuiter. I’m unsure if Nitro requested he go around the con with a bucket or he volunteered to do so. The suiter in question is Xusho, who’s well known in the community for being deaf. Donations for a disease that’s taken one of their own, being ask for by a deaf guy would make a lot of people empty their wallets.

If someone could archive that be great.

I actually mentioned this video in an earlier CCFC research post in the thread here. There are three things worth mentioning with the Xusho situation specifically:
-I believe most of the guests of honor walked around with a bucket soliciting charity donations at some point, though Xusho was the only one who made a video about it.
-Nitro never comped Xusho for their room or travel despite promising otherwise
-Xusho is deaf and was never provided an interpreter, which violates ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) guidelines and Nitro could face even more legal trouble over this if Xusho were to file for disability discrimination.

 

[omori]

I actually mentioned this video in an earlier CCFC research post in the thread here. There are three things worth mentioning with the Xusho situation specifically:
-I believe most of the guests of honor walked around with a bucket soliciting charity donations at some point, though Xusho was the only one who made a video about it.
-Nitro never comped Xusho for their room or travel despite promising otherwise
-Xusho is deaf and was never provided an interpreter, which violates ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) guidelines and Nitro could face even more legal trouble over this if Xusho were to file for disability discrimination.

Shit, my bad. Feel free to rate me late.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I actually mentioned this video in an earlier CCFC research post in the thread here. There are three things worth mentioning with the Xusho situation specifically:
-I believe most of the guests of honor walked around with a bucket soliciting charity donations at some point, though Xusho was the only one who made a video about it.
-Nitro never comped Xusho for their room or travel despite promising otherwise
-Xusho is deaf and was never provided an interpreter, which violates ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) guidelines and Nitro could face even more legal trouble over this if Xusho were to file for disability discrimination.

Hopefully the archive at least will be useful.

I'm drawing a blank here, but was Xusho upset about the whole thing? One would expect yes, but considering furries I would rather make no assumptions.

(Also, may I just say how weird it is to see someone who's deaf in a fursuit? Last I checked you have zero peripheral vision inside those things, and then the guy can't hear anything? He must need really good handlers.)

 

[omori]

Hopefully the archive at least will be useful.

I'm drawing a blank here, but was Xusho upset about the whole thing? One would expect yes, but considering furries I would rather make no assumptions.

(Also, may I just say how weird it is to see someone who's deaf in a fursuit? Last I checked you have zero peripheral vision inside those things, and then the guy can't hear anything? He must need really good handlers.)

If he was upset or hell even aware of all this I’d say he would’ve removed the video. Idk Xusho seems very removed from drama compared to other YouTube furries.

Fursuit heads are a sensory nightmare and hearing can be muffled so being unable to hear period isn’t a huge issue.

 

[Pinball 2000]

I'm drawing a blank here, but was Xusho upset about the whole thing? One would expect yes, but considering furries I would rather make no assumptions.

From what one of the guests of honor told me (though it was NOT Xusho I talked with), they weren't even sure the event was going to happen at all, to the point they made emergency plans to stay with a relative nearby for the night in case the event collapsed while they were at the hotel. They ultimately decided after CCFC that they'd just take the financial hit and move on, though I imagine not everyone had that kind of financial wiggle room.

There is an unconfirmed rumor that exactly one of the GOH got their expenses covered, though I can't confirm who specifically that was. Several GOH have confirmed it wasn't them, and Xusho has remained pretty quiet on the CCFC drama. I have a hunch it may have been Xusho who was comped, but again, I have nothing to back this up, and more realistically, Xusho probably remained quiet since they don't want to get dragged into this shitshow.