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Noebel

I have set my affair on nothing
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So a Twitter thread's been going around. Thought I'd post it so we can all enjoy the lunacy.

https://twitter.com/caderaspindrift/status/1402211912843071489 | https://archive.md/qqvBy

If this isn't the right place, I apologize.
I don't see any drama in it right now, but looks annoying to read all the way through. Anyway, I thought the ones who hate furries the most are furries. They are natural enemies, like horse-lovers and furries, Disney and furries, weaboos and furries, or furries and other furries damn furries! you've ruined anthro art!.
 

Pupworm

STOP CLUBBING, BABY SEALS
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Teenagers wanna seem like the good kid while they hope they don't get caught jacking it to Loony Toons.
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Frenda

esperger's syndrome
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...I get and enjoy parodic 'Evil Fan Art', bu this has to be just exceptionally straight up A-Logging.
why did you censor the word fuck

anyways, this is actually pretty on-par for the Warriors fandom. the drama it produces is honestly surprisingly tame, despite the series being almost 20 years old and having almost 100 books to its name (it's still ongoing, by the way, because god is dead or whatever -- the new arc starts next year). there's only really three major controversies i know of and the Draikinator one is the only one where it was centered around a singular person; there's a good r/HobbyDrama post on it, but even though the post is informative, the actual subject matter was pretty boring to me (tl;dr guy is known for constantly starting shit and crusading against feral porn in the Warriors fandom, some 14 y/o kid calls him spineless, and his response is to send said kid a screenshot of some furaffinity gallery full of the same kind of feral porn he spent so much of his time crusading against). the other two were literally just 1) arguing about a certain character's canonical eye color or 2) arguing over the literal incel character who tries to kill four other characters to punish the girl cat he's in love with. (the latter is my favorite of the controversies)

i have a hard time considering this furry fandom drama though -- Warriors is sort of a gateway to the furry fandom for a lot of kids, but i feel like most of the fandom that sticks around is really pretty much just entirely invested in Warriors, and maybe some other gateway furry fandoms like the spin-offs with the other kinds of animals written under the Erin Hunter pen name or things like Wings of Fire. there isn't much in the way of degeneracy or "lifestyling," for lack of a better word, and i think a lot of that is owed to the fact the fandom really is almost entirely composed of socially awkward young girls, and even its older fanbase seems to be largely composed of (still socially awkward) women.
 
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Just Another Furgag Alog

Wiggly Line Furgag
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why did you censor the word fuck

anyways, this is actually pretty on-par for the Warriors fandom. the drama it produces is honestly surprisingly tame, despite the series being almost 20 years old and having almost 100 books to its name (it's still ongoing, by the way, because god is dead or whatever -- the new arc starts next year). there's only really three major controversies i know of and the Draikinator one is the only one where it was centered around a singular person; there's a good r/HobbyDrama post on it, but even though the post is informative, the actual subject matter was pretty boring to me (tl;dr guy is known for constantly starting shit and crusading against feral porn in the Warriors fandom, some 14 y/o kid calls him spineless, and his response is to send said kid a screenshot of some furaffinity gallery full of the same kind of feral porn he spent so much of his time crusading against). the other two were literally just 1) arguing about a certain character's canonical eye color or 2) arguing over the literal incel character who tries to kill four other characters to punish the girl cat he's in love with. (the latter is my favorite of the controversies)

i have a hard time considering this furry fandom drama though -- Warriors is sort of a gateway to the furry fandom for a lot of kids, but i feel like most of the fandom that sticks around is really pretty much just entirely invested in Warriors, and maybe some other gateway furry fandoms like the spin-offs with the other kinds of animals written under the Erin Hunter pen name or things like Wings of Fire. there isn't much in the way of degeneracy or "lifestyling," for lack of a better word, and i think a lot of that is owed to the fact the fandom really is almost entirely composed of socially awkward young girls, and even its older fanbase seems to be largely composed of (still socially awkward) women.
From the sounds of it, Warriors is a gateway to grooming kids into fucking animals if the fandom is full of feral porn and people are just okay with it.
 

TheBigOne

The Real GlitchedPuppet
True & Honest Fan
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From the sounds of it, Warriors is a gateway to grooming kids into fucking animals if the fandom is full of feral porn and people are just okay with it.
By that logic, any animal series ever is a gateway into animal fetishes. It's just a series that has feral cats in it. It's not a gateway. Those who are already socially fucked or have mental disorders are more likely to find a sexual aspect to it, like they would with many things. Most people who watched The Lion King did not turn out to be furries, but those who are socially fucked/mental disorder might be more likely to sexualize it. The reason the Warrior fandom might have a lot of feral porn is because the characters are all feral. The sexual aspects of the fandom are likely to turn someone into a furry, but the majority of Warrior Cats readers aren't likely to go down that path, given how accessible it is to the general public compared to other animal series, meaning more neurotypical individuals will be exposed to it, diluting the pool of those that are likely to find it sexually arousing--which is also in contrast to individuals who consume romantic fanfiction of it but are not necessarily interested in the sexual aspects. Young girls love that shit in fanfiction. Compare the 25k fanfictions of Warrior Cats that are rated K-T vs only 1.1K fanfiction that are rated M. Compared to other fandoms of series that cater to older viewers, such as Star Wars. Star Wars has a K-T percent composition of 79.09%, with 13.07% M-rated stories, vs Warrior's K-T percent composition of 93.28%, 6.72% M rated stories. MLP fanfiction is around 28.8% M-rated. This is my assessment based on the patterns of other studies done on 'rabbit hole' development of children's minds and paraphilias, as well as my general observations of the furry fandom and fandoms that can lead to the introduction of furries.
 
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Corn Flakes

Battle Creek's Finest
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Yeah, no. The Warriors fandom is its own thing. There's some overlap with the furry fandom (as in, some Warriors fans are furries) simply due to the subject matter, but it's not much. There being porn of that franchise is just a matter of Rule 34 at work. As far as feral-only fandoms go among furries, the Lion King fandom is far larger and has a lot more porn of it drawn.
 

TheBigOne

The Real GlitchedPuppet
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That's quite a bit lower than I expected.
It's very high compared to other popular fandoms, especially with only 31.5k stories. Naruto, with 435k total stories (~55k rule34, 172k art on pixiv, 1.3million on deviantart), has roughly the same average of M-rated stories at 30.35%. That's how you know it's average in terms of porn, but high when compared to other animal shit or things catered to an older audience. It makes sense given that MLP on e621 has 241k art entries (1.2 million on deviantart). The Lion King is a relatively small community compared to MLP both on stories (6.12%) and art (5.7k e621, 88k-159k on deviantart). TLK might seem more visible and thus more popular to you because it contains characters/art style you can recognize immediately, compared to Warriors where art may or may not be of a random cat.
 
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Just Another Furgag Alog

Wiggly Line Furgag
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By that logic, any animal series ever is a gateway into animal fetishes. It's just a series that has feral cats in it. It's not a gateway. Those who are already socially fucked or have mental disorders are more likely to find a sexual aspect to it, like they would with many things. Most people who watched The Lion King did not turn out to be furries, but those who are socially fucked/mental disorder might be more likely to sexualize it. The reason the Warrior fandom might have a lot of feral porn is because the characters are all feral. The sexual aspects of the fandom are likely to turn someone into a furry, but the majority of Warrior Cats readers aren't likely to go down that path, given how accessible it is to the general public compared to other animal series, meaning more neurotypical individuals will be exposed to it, diluting the pool of those that are likely to find it sexually arousing--which is also in contrast to individuals who consume romantic fanfiction of it but are not necessarily interested in the sexual aspects. Young girls love that shit in fanfiction. Compare the 25k fanfictions of Warrior Cats that are rated K-T vs only 1.1K fanfiction that are rated M. Compared to other fandoms of series that cater to older viewers, such as Star Wars. Star Wars has a K-T percent composition of 79.09%, with 13.07% M-rated stories, vs Warrior's K-T percent composition of 93.28%, 6.72% M rated stories. MLP fanfiction is around 28.8% M-rated. This is my assessment based on the patterns of other studies done on 'rabbit hole' development of children's minds and paraphilias, as well as my general observations of the furry fandom and fandoms that can lead to the introduction of furries.
That's a relief.
 

The Ultimate Ramotith

Pronouns: 俺/前
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i have a hard time considering this furry fandom drama though -- Warriors is sort of a gateway to the furry fandom for a lot of kids, but i feel like most of the fandom that sticks around is really pretty much just entirely invested in Warriors, and maybe some other gateway furry fandoms like the spin-offs with the other kinds of animals written under the Erin Hunter pen name or things like Wings of Fire. there isn't much in the way of degeneracy or "lifestyling," for lack of a better word, and i think a lot of that is owed to the fact the fandom really is almost entirely composed of socially awkward young girls, and even its older fanbase seems to be largely composed of (still socially awkward) women.
Yeah, no. The Warriors fandom is its own thing. There's some overlap with the furry fandom (as in, some Warriors fans are furries) simply due to the subject matter, but it's not much. There being porn of that franchise is just a matter of Rule 34 at work. As far as feral-only fandoms go among furries, the Lion King fandom is far larger and has a lot more porn of it drawn.
Honestly, I only posted this here because Draikinator appeared in this thread a few times already. Excuse me.

By that logic, any animal series ever is a gateway into animal fetishes. It's just a series that has feral cats in it. It's not a gateway. Those who are already socially fucked or have mental disorders are more likely to find a sexual aspect to it, like they would with many things. Most people who watched The Lion King did not turn out to be furries, but those who are socially fucked/mental disorder might be more likely to sexualize it. The reason the Warrior fandom might have a lot of feral porn is because the characters are all feral. The sexual aspects of the fandom are likely to turn someone into a furry, but the majority of Warrior Cats readers aren't likely to go down that path, given how accessible it is to the general public compared to other animal series, meaning more neurotypical individuals will be exposed to it, diluting the pool of those that are likely to find it sexually arousing--which is also in contrast to individuals who consume romantic fanfiction of it but are not necessarily interested in the sexual aspects. Young girls love that shit in fanfiction. Compare the 25k fanfictions of Warrior Cats that are rated K-T vs only 1.1K fanfiction that are rated M. Compared to other fandoms of series that cater to older viewers, such as Star Wars. Star Wars has a K-T percent composition of 79.09%, with 13.07% M-rated stories, vs Warrior's K-T percent composition of 93.28%, 6.72% M rated stories. MLP fanfiction is around 28.8% M-rated. This is my assessment based on the patterns of other studies done on 'rabbit hole' development of children's minds and paraphilias, as well as my general observations of the furry fandom and fandoms that can lead to the introduction of furries.
I think complicating that analysis would be people who become fans of cartoon animals without fetishising or otherwis eroticising that interest. Whether you consider that possible (especially in context with identifying wi the fandom) is another matter.
 

Frenda

esperger's syndrome
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last post i’ll make on this because i don’t want to derail anything but Warriors M-rated fanfic is also probably rated M for reasons other than sexual content too, for what it’s worth. this is the same series where a cat gets its throat ripped open so hard that it loses all 9 of its lives at once, coming back to life for a few moments each time only to almost immediately die again, and another one that’s barely older than a kitten gets half its face ripped off by dogs.
 

Haramburger

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It is really dumb.

Reminded myself tonight of those Orangina ads again, anyone who was around a decade back probably remembers seeing this infamous number.

It certainly triggered quite a lot in the 'community' and further ads featuring these animals followed...

I don't know if they're still at it, but it's been a few years since I've heard anything new about it.
Ancient bump, but I've bumped into a lot of this recently and the general shock of Americans of this old campaign is pretty funny. A lot of these videos are no longer working, but here's a bunch of images I didn't see elsewhere on the Farms:

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Uncle Warren

True & Honest Fan
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Ancient bump, but I've bumped into a lot of this recently and the general shock of Americans of this old campaign is pretty funny. A lot of these videos are no longer working, but here's a bunch of images I didn't see elsewhere on the Farms:

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Dude that post is from 2016.
 

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