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Coolio55

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Here's some recent retardation of some dipshits belittling someone's sexual abuse as a child because they draw gore and horror and are "continuing the cycle". Luckily, plenty of people responded and ratio'd them in terms of posts overwhelmingly disagreeing with them, with one of the responses getting 100+ more likes than their bullshit. https://twitter.com/hibiscushydra/status/1275653745016266752
Wait, I thought "I was abused as a child" was the general limpwristed excuse for drawing underage porn not gore?
 

Coolio55

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It's a fucking mess.
(https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19KjxF6nwbkR58SFEU57dLwOImcSqMV9C0agWt00Z6IU/)
In the google doc he is bang to rights revealed as a diaper fetishist (With underage diaper art).
He was revealed have started dating a 14 year-old when he was 17 which is kinda pushing it but not exactly a crime. He was also on and off creeping on a 13 year-old which is definitely fucked up.
There's also the possible implication that Aar groomed the 14 year-old into sharing his diaper fetish and she was posting underage nudes of herself on a NSFW twitter account (Which Aar would have definitely stopped if he was in any way a good person)
 

camopattern

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Things have been happening in the TF2 community with a well known TF2 Youtuber



God damn when are you gonna learn to lurk for a while before posting. Your whole post history reads 14 year old.

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I'm intrigued by the sudden amount of people exposing pedos on Twitter lately. Seems to be connected to the fluffy fandom post, which allegedly was done because of the huge amount of pedos on furry amino. (Anyone in their 20s on furry amino is probably a pedo anyway).

I did notice a lot of adults replying to the fluffy tweets with "if you're a minor you can dm me for a safe space any time" in the most grooming creepy way possible. We already saw this first hand with @rottrottrott so this isnt going to vanish anytime soon.

There is an old blocklist that has shown up again recently too
 

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God damn when are you gonna learn to lurk for a while before posting. Your whole post history reads 14 year old.

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I'm intrigued by the sudden amount of people exposing pedos on Twitter lately. Seems to be connected to the fluffy fandom post, which allegedly was done because of the huge amount of pedos on furry amino. (Anyone in their 20s on furry amino is probably a pedo anyway).

I did notice a lot of adults replying to the fluffy tweets with "if you're a minor you can dm me for a safe space any time" in the most grooming creepy way possible. We already saw this first hand with @rottrottrott so this isnt going to vanish anytime soon.

There is an old blocklist that has shown up again recently too
If I had the permissions, I woulda moved this to another thread but sadly I don't.

As far as calling out pedophiles goes, I feel like that kind of activity has been ramping up for a while. A large portion of the younger people in the fandom are sick of people like Growly being allowed to attend the mainstream cons without any repercussions. Couple that with the Zoosadist leaks coming out and exposing a handful of pedophiles as well, and that got people pretty charged. It's only going to ramp up from here and I'm fully expecting a Zoosadist Leak 2.0 by the end of the year with the way 2020 has been going.
 

FursuitSerialKiller

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Busy couple days the fandom has had.

Anyone want to weigh in with any thoughts
If I had the permissions, I woulda moved this to another thread but sadly I don't.

As far as calling out pedophiles goes, I feel like that kind of activity has been ramping up for a while. A large portion of the younger people in the fandom are sick of people like Growly being allowed to attend the mainstream cons without any repercussions. Couple that with the Zoosadist leaks coming out and exposing a handful of pedophiles as well, and that got people pretty charged. It's only going to ramp up from here and I'm fully expecting a Zoosadist Leak 2.0 by the end of the year with the way 2020 has been going.

I find myself agreeing with you about this. I wanted to post in this thread the other day to the tune of "There has bee a lot of push forward lately in the fandom. What do you guys think is going to happen?"

I just hope these young people realize that it's not just the actual offenders, it's the content and accepted normalization of certain aspects in the fandom that enable it. I hope they hold the old guard accountable for tolerating it.

"The kids are alright" I guess?
 

Wheezy Asthmatic

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Busy couple days the fandom has had.

Anyone want to weigh in with any thoughts


I find myself agreeing with you about this. I wanted to post in this thread the other day to the tune of "There has bee a lot of push forward lately in the fandom. What do you guys think is going to happen?"

I just hope these young people realize that it's not just the actual offenders, it's the content and accepted normalization of certain aspects in the fandom that enable it. I hope they hold the old guard accountable for tolerating it.

"The kids are alright" I guess?
On your last point, unfortunately the kids seemed to be mixed on it. Some realize that the nature of the art is inherently harmful (usually those that suffered from being groomed) but others are quick to rush to the artist's aid - especially if they belong to a minority group. I have the feeling it will take another generation (or consecutive major scandals) to finally cement that sexual art of underage characters is just a huge red flag for predators.
 

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On your last point, unfortunately the kids seemed to be mixed on it. Some realize that the nature of the art is inherently harmful (usually those that suffered from being groomed) but others are quick to rush to the artist's aid - especially if they belong to a minority group. I have the feeling it will take another generation (or consecutive major scandals) to finally cement that sexual art of underage characters is just a huge red flag for predators.
I don't wanna be that guy but any statement nowadays that contains the words "Twitter" and "get things done" is a fucking contradiction. There's an #Xisoverparty every day, the furries are still enabling animal abuse and kid fucking, every stupid fucking movement is full of underage faggots that get politically groomed into one side or the other, and Kpop.

Twitter is a cesspool and anyone who uses it for anything other than archiving stupid people doing stupid shit is a lolcow. @Dyn probably knows this better than I do.
 

Wheezy Asthmatic

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I don't wanna be that guy but any statement nowadays that contains the words "Twitter" and "get things done" is a fucking contradiction. There's an #Xisoverparty every day, the furries are still enabling animal abuse and kid fucking, every stupid fucking movement is full of underage faggots that get politically groomed into one side or the other, and Kpop.

Twitter is a cesspool and anyone who uses it for anything other than archiving stupid people doing stupid shit is a lolcow. @Dyn probably knows this better than I do.
Oh, trust me. I agree. But keep in mind that a lot of the younger people are leaving or just haven't ever had a Twitter account due to the very reasons you just stated. Twitter has been in a slow decline for the last several years and while I think the platform shows the worst side of the fandom, I don't think Twitter itself is the problem. It's just a platform. It takes people to populate it - people with their ideals. Just because someone is banned off of it or moves somewhere else, it doesn't mean that individual with their ideals is suddenly gone. They're just fucking shit up on some other platform.

Like I said, I want to be optimistic about the fandom moving in the right direction but I still see plenty of the same people who would rip Growly to shreds simultaneously defending feral & cub porn. If they're adamant about moving in the right direction, it's still going to take another generation or 2 and possibly the fallout of the fandom before the idea cements that those things are just never okay.
 

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Oh, trust me. I agree. But keep in mind that a lot of the younger people are leaving or just haven't ever had a Twitter account due to the very reasons you just stated. Twitter has been in a slow decline for the last several years and while I think the platform shows the worst side of the fandom, I don't think Twitter itself is the problem. It's just a platform. It takes people to populate it - people with their ideals. Just because someone is banned off of it or moves somewhere else, it doesn't mean that individual with their ideals is suddenly gone. They're just fucking shit up on some other platform.

Like I said, I want to be optimistic about the fandom moving in the right direction but I still see plenty of the same people who would rip Growly to shreds simultaneously defending feral & cub porn. If they're adamant about moving in the right direction, it's still going to take another generation or 2 and possibly the fallout of the fandom before the idea cements that those things are just never okay.
You're gonna drive yourself mad worrying about shit that'll never change since it's rotten to its very core. Just find a small group of people to hang out with on-line and at furcons. You'll have a lot more fun doing shit together and making fun of lolcows in the hotel lobby, who are adults acting like teens.
 

Wheezy Asthmatic

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You're gonna drive yourself mad worrying about shit that'll never change since it's rotten to its very core. Just find a small group of people to hang out with on-line and at furcons. You'll have a lot more fun doing shit together and making fun of lolcows in the hotel lobby, who are adults acting like teens.
I think you're reading too much into what I've said.

Lemme make it clear - while it is worrying that this fandom is the way that it is, it's not something that's keeping me awake at night. I've accepted the MASSIVE faults that it has & it really makes no difference to me whether it gets better, worse, or just burns to the ground entirely.

Reason being - there will always be an online community that has predators in it. The nature of the internet itself makes it an inevitability. You quash one, another will take its place. While it's ideal that every predator gets caught and sent to prison, that's merely a pipe dream. Before the age of the internet, predators lived in isolation. They were aware there were others like them, but aside from mere chance or getting arrested & put in a cell with other predators, they had no means of forming a group. They lived in constant fear of being ousted and thus kept to themselves. Now that we have this massively expansive means of anonymous communication, there's really no way of holding them back from organizing. It's a grim reality but unfortunately the only way to stop them at the root would just be to destroy what the internet is and no one wants that.

I'm still going to be here to document notable groups of predators in the hopes that something can be done about it by law enforcement on a case-by-case basis, but I'm not doing it to enact change on the community level. I'm doing it because it would be funny for those who did the vile things seen in the Zoo leaks get anal fissures after being fisted for 5 hours straight by some gigantic black dude named Tiny. If you try to go on a one-person crusade to change a community, you are going to be quickly burnt out and disillusioned with the world. Even people who've brought notable change to their communities and are propped up by history as the " sole reason change happened " didn't do it alone. They had groups supporting them and plenty of community outreach.

If you're on here because you want to change furries, you're definitely here for the wrong reason. Furries don't listen to this place. There are VERY few instances where they reference it positively but there will always be someone to respond with " bUt ThEy MuRdErEd TrAnS pEoPle " or whatever. Not to mention no one here wants to engage on a crusade against the whole ass fandom. When the Zoo leaks originally leaked, that was about the closest thing this place ever got to a crusade but EVERYONE everywhere was trying to dig through that flaming trash heap to get people arrested - can't exactly hold it against people on that one.
 
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billydero

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there will always be an online community that has predators in it. The nature of the internet itself makes it an inevitability. You quash one, another will take its place.

Full agreement. Although it's helpful to be aware that while all online communities have predators, the furry fandom is almost expressly designed to be the worst. The fandom about getting laid/designing characters to get you laid and that just attracts more pedos, abusers, zoos and the like.

If you're on here because you want to change furries, you're definitely here for the wrong reason. Furries don't listen to this place.

I hope furries never change. Their super-in-touch-with-their-feelings-and-being-emotive nature and tendency to freak out over everything means the meltdowns are always epic,
 

SillySherman

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The number of cases coming from the furry fandom is hard to ignore. Even if they claim they are the most oppressed group on the Internet, the continuous flow of drama and degeneracy committed by some of their members always destroys their arguments.

If you're on here because you want to change furries, you're definitely here for the wrong reason. Furries don't listen to this place.

No, they all hang on Discord, which unsurprisingly was also partly created by furries.
 

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The most vocal ones about "trap and futa are slurs" consume that kind of art like there is no tomorrow. Hilarious how they can't shut up about how offensive the terms are, how people who fetishize transexuals are gross, etc when all they do is masturbate to the idea of being a voluptous bat/wolf/fox/cat girl with a footlong throbbing cock fucking men or other dickgirls in the ass.
It is a fetish moron, stop dressing it in gender politics and special labels, just admit you like chicks with dicks and be done with it.
Chad Brazilian Tranny: I label my videos degenerate shit to fuel views and ease of access.

Woke US Man in a Dress: "Two cute transsexual lesbians transwomen make love"
 

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