Gail Connors -

The Dude

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The problem with that line of thinking is that she also refuses to let Jace get the help he needs. She's frequently refused to take him to therapy, opting instead for a faith-based approach to his mental health. While she might have good intentions, she's going about things in a manner that severely cripples his ability to grow past the man-child he currently is. He's shown a strong desire to grow up and "learn civvie skills" in the last few streams, but living under gail's roof, that's frankly never going to happen.

I'm not sticking up for Gail. My sole point is we don't have all the facts about her. Most of what we suspect about her comes from Jace himself, and he's hardly reliable. He exaggerates to get attention. "Faith Healing" may, I repeat MAY, simply be Gail taking Jace to a counselor at her church, and many of them actually do have college degrees in psychology, such as with the Catholic church. I'm not saying definitively that this is the case, I'm simply throwing it out there as a possible scenario.

Let's not forget that she successfully raised Rob to be a well rounded adult from what we know of him, though he was adopted according to Jace so if she does have a schizoid disorder he wouldn't have the same problems that Gail and Jace have. But Rob is proof that she isn't a total failure as a parent. My sole point is that we shouldn't be going off half-cocked about Gail when the majority of what we think we know of her comes from unreliable and biased sources (Jace and the few appearances she's mad in his videos). That's all.
 

MrsFrizzle

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It is rural as hell out there, but fundies are definitely in the minority. Catholicism is the biggest denomination by far, then Congregational, then Northern Baptist, then the kind of Evangelical churches that do faith healing lagging pretty far behind.

There are also decent mental health resources compared to much of the rural US; the UMass med school has an excellent psychiatry program, and the small local clinics have residents and fellows of the program on staff.

Gail is a weird enigma---the crystals don't match with the "Jesus Camp" doesn't match with Jace saying his family is Catholic doesn't match with Gail not wanting Jace to do therapy (Catholic priests often have counseling degrees, as The Dude mentioned, but anyone with a counseling degree would know that Jace needs psychiatry desperately as well as counseling).
 

Andrew Noel Schaefer

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I just want to say that I dont think Gails treatment of Jace is due to malice but rather incompotence. For what she does she clearly cares about her son... but goes about it in the entirely wrong way.

There are times when I think Jace can do the impossible and rise up from cowdom much in the way Sammyclassicsonicfan really has. But no matter what, Gail will always be pulling him back down.

And I don't even want to go to a therapist anyways because they would call me scitzo and crazy!

:'(
 

Chuggernaut

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I just want to say that I dont think Gails treatment of Jace is due to malice but rather incompotence. For what she does she clearly cares about her son... but goes about it in the entirely wrong way.

A lot of what she does indicates she cares most about what he does and how it reflects on her. People who really care explore every avenue of helping someone, but people whose first priority is ideology do things like let their kids die because they took them to a faith healer instead of a doctor.
 

Andrew Noel Schaefer

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A lot of what she does indicates she cares most about what he does and how it reflects on her. People who really care explore every avenue of helping someone, but people whose first priority is ideology do things like let their kids die because they took them to a faith healer instead of a doctor.

Mf.

I guess I just dont want to think about Gail as that monsterous. Because honestly if we take this as truth, I think this makes her worse then Barb. Why? Because at least Barb was OLD
 

XYZpdq

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If Gail put the effort into taking care of her son that she puts into controlling her son I'd be a lot more impressed. It says a lot to me that (as evidenced by the streams) him schizoing out and vomiting endlessly isn't a concern as long as it isn't loud enough to bother her.
Like I've said before, maybe she's burnt out after years and years of having to keep up with a Former Wounded Veteran Of The Marine Battlefield of Are Armed Forces.
On the other hand sending him out unsupervised to get the mail is some bullshit. If you want to teach him the responsibility of "now we have to go to a PO Box because you were a dumbshit on the internet" that's fine, but he needs a shorter leash than she's kept him on.
 

Andrew Noel Schaefer

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On the other hand sending him out unsupervised to get the mail is some bullshit. If you want to teach him the responsibility of "now we have to go to a PO Box because you were a dumbshit on the internet" that's fine, but he needs a shorter leash than she's kept him on.

Now while I partly agree one of the problems there is that Jace always will find new ways to escape her grasp.

Remember when Rob told Jace that he should do longplays? Granted, Rob ment that Jace should RECORD longplays instead of streaming (SNOOZE/PEE PEE ZONE!) but thats besides the point. That is actually good advice! If he were to follow it, he would get the benefit of attention (lets face it, we all need some degree of social attention in our lives) as well as avoid being trolled... well, unless its by the game. (happy fun time outfit)

course then he can be a dickhole and cut the 'boring parts' out. Point is, Jace needs GOOD advice like that.
 

BriarHeart

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It is rural as hell out there, but fundies are definitely in the minority. Catholicism is the biggest denomination by far, then Congregational, then Northern Baptist, then the kind of Evangelical churches that do faith healing lagging pretty far behind.

There are also decent mental health resources compared to much of the rural US; the UMass med school has an excellent psychiatry program, and the small local clinics have residents and fellows of the program on staff.

Gail is a weird enigma---the crystals don't match with the "Jesus Camp" doesn't match with Jace saying his family is Catholic doesn't match with Gail not wanting Jace to do therapy (Catholic priests often have counseling degrees, as The Dude mentioned, but anyone with a counseling degree would know that Jace needs psychiatry desperately as well as counseling).

I wouldn't discount Gail's fervor as an anomaly in the area. Fundie Catholics are totally a thing. Granted, they usually don't go the "crystal healing" route, but treating any mental illness with long periods of prayer, Bible studies, and exorcisms, no matter how severe the illness? That is definitely something those kinds of Catholics would do to their kid.

Point is, it's entirely possible that Gail's batpoo-insane beliefs are being enabled and perhaps even exacerbated by the batpoo-insane beliefs of other people around her. Fundies of any stripe usually need other people to continually police and reinforce their belief systems, because the fundie's black-and-white view of the world can't stand up on its own in a world of exceptions. At the very least, she probably has a TV show, radio show, and/or website to validate her practices, but I wouldn't discount her having support in meatspace as well.
 
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JON CENA

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The "Christ Zone" Livestream has given us a shit ton of new info regarding Gail.

I'll sum up all we currently know about Gail's religious beliefs here.
-insane offshoot of christianity led by Pastor Faggot, who according to Jace, has a "pope hat"
-may have their own scripture called the "Forgotten Bible"
-believes that "the webcam is the eye of the devil"
-believes that AI has a soul(which makes the fact that she didn't care that much when she saw the bodies in Postal 2 weird)
-believes that fiat currency is evil and that we should adopt the gold standard
-gays are evil
-the pope is evil and indulgent(again, strange considering P. Faggot's "Pope Hat.")
-drinking tap water blessed by Pastor Faggot can heal you

It's actually suprising that Jace isn't more fucked up than he is, considering
 
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press1forjews

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The "Christ Zone" Livestream has given us a shit ton of new info regarding these Jace's mom, and I thought it would be best to have a dedicated thread related to her and her effect on Jace.

I'll sum up all we currently know about Gail's religious beliefs here.
-insane offshoot of christianity led by Pastor Faggot, who according to Jace, has a "pope hat"
-may have their own scripture called the "Forgotten Bible"
-believes that "the webcam is the eye of the devil"
-believes that AI has a soul(which makes the fact that she didn't care that much when she saw the bodies in Postal 2 weird)
-believes that fiat currency is evil and that we should adopt the gold standard
-gays are evil
-the pope is evil and indulgent(again, strange considering P. Faggot's "Pope Hat.")
-drinking tap water blessed by Pastor Faggot can heal you

It's actually suprising that Jace isn't more fucked up than he is, considering
With the Ai, she said that she wasn't sure, so she'd pray for them to be safe.
Also, the culty-ness would explain why she tries so hard to keep jade contained.

I've also had issues with parents forcing me to take medications I very much knew weren't for me, and it can be a living hell. I ended up going un medicated for 4 years hiding pills and my parents seemingly couldn't tell a difference. Sometimes it feels like more of a control thing then a caring thing, if they won't admit that to themselves. Jace needs to move out, see a psych, and find a medicine that works for him.
 

Kittyguns

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The "Christ Zone" Livestream has given us a shit ton of new info regarding these Jace's mom, and I thought it would be best to have a dedicated thread related to her and her effect on Jace.

I'll sum up all we currently know about Gail's religious beliefs here.
-insane offshoot of christianity led by Pastor Faggot, who according to Jace, has a "pope hat"
-may have their own scripture called the "Forgotten Bible"
-believes that "the webcam is the eye of the devil"
-believes that AI has a soul(which makes the fact that she didn't care that much when she saw the bodies in Postal 2 weird)
-believes that fiat currency is evil and that we should adopt the gold standard
-gays are evil
-the pope is evil and indulgent(again, strange considering P. Faggot's "Pope Hat.")
-drinking tap water blessed by Pastor Faggot can heal you

It's actually suprising that Jace isn't more fucked up than he is, considering
A couple of these have gotten me thinking, because I wanna know what angle she approaches these things from/where she got it from. Some of it is pretty straight forward, like the webcam = eye of the devil bit, or AI having a soul (It looks like a human/represents a human, therefore it must be treated like one). But other things just beg for exploring, like how she is so dug into America = everything, considering it's to the point she considers foreign languages to be invented just to fuck with her, and for taco bell of all things to not only be real mexican food, but somehow lead to homosexuality because of it.

I have a feeling she's equating homosexuality to general abnormality, which to her means if you aren't a model citizen of the US of A. Meaning you could do things that are generally a 'murrican thing to do (like, say, watch wreslting), but if it isn't model citizen behavior it's still something that's bad enough to explain why you would go homo.
 

Angel Bob

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-may have their own scripture called the "Forgotten Bible"

Jace implies that the book they use changes often. He started to read something from the King James Bible, Gail starts going on about "the forgotten bible" and Jace says something like "yeah but it'll be different next month." He also mentions she met the guy behind the diet stuff at a rest stop and he's not a real doctor. The whole stream was pure insanity.
 

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