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I'll make somewhat of an FAQ post since a lot of people post the same questions over, and over, and over again.

FAQs about Gamergate

1. Is Gamergate about harassing women?
Contrary to popular belief Gamergate has very little to do with women. It has to do with journalists. Much of what people actually do in Gamergate is email advertisers about shitty business practices. The reason women like Zoe Quinn and Anita get mentioned is because there's a lot of overlap between subjects of corruption in Video Game Media and Journalism. And these individuals are frequently involved and talk about said subjects. Infact "e-celeb" threads on /gamergateHQ/ and /gg/ are looked down upon because they're not related. And they're usually relegated to a single general thread about the subject.

So lets reiterate. Zoe Quinn did nothing wrong (shocker) it's the fact journalists gave her free coverage because she slept with them that was the problem here. Her infidelity and psychological manipulation while morally wrong has nothing to do with Gamergate. What the journalists wrote about her on the other hand does.

2. Why is it called Gamergate?
Gamergate was a term coined by Adam Baldwin. It's a reference to Watergate (and is nowhere near the first movement to do this).

3. Why video game journalism? Why not something useful like starving children in Africa?
There's a logical fallacy called "Fallacy of Relative Privation" which basically means "Your point is meaningless because there's something more important you should be focusing on".

The reason this is a logical fallacy is because it fully agrees there is a problem and agrees with the argument, it just claims it's not worth debating and attempts to dismiss the argument on that nature. Video game journalism is a problem. Almost everyone universally agrees with this. People just claim it's not worth/possible to save so people should focus on other things. Which is just pessimistic.

4. Why are you doing this? Gamergate has not/will not accomplish anything.
There's an entire wiki page on things Gamergate has accomplished it's also lasted several months when people expected it to fizzle out after a week.

5. You guys are just a bunch of white selfish autistic neckbeard virgins who hate women
List of Gamergate charities some of them are anti harassment too

And lastly there are also women in Gamergate, so the misogyny argument flies out the window

There are legitimate arguments for and against Gamergate so let's hear some that are different. I know most people will just post bait regardless so lets hope @Wulfgar Von Heltzer doesn't rise to @CatPartys shit.

And lastly let's all be nice. These threads have a history of being locked because of forum drama. If you don't care about all of this shit that's cool. I just request you don't come in here and shit up the thread out of some spiteful hatred because people do.

If you'd like more information about Gamergate, Internet Artistocrat's videos are a good place to start. After that just ask a few questions and do a little reading on your own. Always do your own research is my advice in this matter.
 
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Jaimas

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It is never a bad time for TJChurch.

In other news, the Neilsen Ratings just put out a surprisingly cohesive article essentially dismissing outright the claims that under-representation in games is a most serious thing. In before they're chain-attacked by retarded so-called SJWs for this.

And in other news, TechRaptor took the fight to the likes of Ben "Gamer Entitlement" Parfitt today when they pointed out that, yes, 17,000 new potential customers might be worth looking at as part of an untapped market for Sony to take advantage of.
 

lurkermouse

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New bread? Let's start this one off right.

Here's Daniel Golding's real LinkedIn profile, corroborated by what's written on his own site and Twitter. He wrote a worthless white knight response to the fallout from his piece (tl;dr: muh soggyknees, muh diversity); he's absolutely with the SJW clique. Shills for Feminist Frequency, etc.


Why are so many of these people writers? Must be the low barrier to entry.
 

DrunkTails

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This is still going on?
I think the reason for that is because the whole affair is escalating. With Harper's "I'm a super hero cus i created blockbot" and other spergs from the antis attacking neutrals and other stuff its no surprise that this debacle is still raging.

EDIT: I also forgot to mention that there are plenty of lolcows on the antis side. Peter Coffin is one of them, as is Phil fish.
 
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Wulfgar Von Heltzer

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Hoo boy. Lionhead Studios recently came out in favor of National Cleavage day, and celebrating tits.


Idly, does anyone else find it disturbing how SJW demands for diversity end at any girl with big tits or curvy physique? Or who are hot in general? Why the fuck is that? And why are there so many sexless white guys claiming to be offended by tits? Those faggots are the kind of guys who would beg for sex, and fucking everyone knows it.
 

Smoked Sausage

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Why are so many of these people writers? Must be the low barrier to entry.
You're right anyone can write, doesn't take a degree in journalism or English to start writing all it takes is talent,dedication, and luck. Of course most of the journalists involved had none of that to begin with which is why they acted unethical and attacked their audience instead of apologizing like real journalists are expected to when they act improperly.
 

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At this rate, I'm guessing it's gonna tapper out by the end of the decade.

Does this make it the internet equivalent of the Hundred Years War, except a lot spergier.
I actually think we're looking more at this ending at the end of the year as it's more of a war of attrition now than anything.

The anti's/SJWs can't win at this point - they blew all their greatest advantages in thinking that they could simply influence public opinion through major media outlets and crush the problem before it could grow. They were pretty strong initially with the support of the media at large, all their friends in high places, and now what looks like outright corporate bankrolling (though I'm not quite sure of the reasons why pissing off the entire gaming culture was a good idea to be funded). Censorship abound everywhere, they actually could have just ended it all by throwing Zoe Quinn under the bus - to this day given how much these bastards are just self interested assholes I don't understand why they didn't cut all ties with her the second the Zoe Post cited the Five Guys.

But since then, every single one of the anti's/SJW's "victories" have proven phyric, hollow, and ultimately worthless. GTA V ban in Australia? Nobody really thinks about that anymore. Shirtgate? Still forgotten in the annuals of history, since what that guy did was a legit scientific accomplishment of our time, though simultaneously the part where more people wanted to buy that exact shirt probably pissed off all the idiots who tried to make a big lasting deal about the guy's poor choice in sensible occasion wear. The IDGA Blockbot? One humiliating disaster over another without any action on part of the GGers whatsoever.

And that's why this is a war of attrition, a question of how much more the antis/SJW camps can keep living their delusions of being in control. Every move they make against Gamergate has to be a character assassination or censorship of something on an individual level, because that's all they know how to coordinate attacks. More often than not, these singular attacks either backfire (child porn on 8chan plot) or ultimately never quite acomplish the hoped-for cascading effect where taking out a promiment figure in the GG camp will be like destroying the supports of a bridge or something, as GGers will come together and support each other when need be, and since the movement's closest thing to a real "leader" is Hotwheels, a.k.a. the man who has outwitted all attempts to silence him to the point of being a virtual Rasputin almost, the anti's/SJW camp's only attack strategy can't bring down the entire GG community.

But at the same time, the anti's/SJWs are slowly falling apart because they're so concentrated on a few specific leader-like people; Wu, Chu, Sarkesian/Macintosh, etc. Even the mod for Ghazi deciding to retreat for good caused absolute chaos for a few days because the majority of the anti's/SJW camp are followers, not leaders. Every time one of those "faces" of the anti-GG camp does something awful or hypocricial, they get called out on it and more supporters are hemoraged as they finally gain self-awareness. Without a single focus to blindly concentrate on, the hordes are turning on each other and their "leaders" are just becoming more like broken records as they don't even DO anything that isn't predictable at this point - which is whine about soggy kees and such shit in editorials and on Twitter.

All in all, all the anti-GG movement ever was to its "leaders" was a garunteed internet army of morons and a steady stream of extra pocket change...initially. It's been months since and those same leaders are desperately trying to stay relevant as they finally realize the gaming community as a whole has been slowly shifting away from them the whole time. Because unlike the anti's, the GG camp doesn't give a shit about how extreme the SJW's or anti's claim the changes to gaming need to be, all they ever wanted was to play their games in peace.
 

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I actually think we're looking more at this ending at the end of the year as it's more of a war of attrition now than anything.

The anti's/SJWs can't win at this point - they blew all their greatest advantages in thinking that they could simply influence public opinion through major media outlets and crush the problem before it could grow. They were pretty strong initially with the support of the media at large, all their friends in high places, and now what looks like outright corporate bankrolling (though I'm not quite sure of the reasons why pissing off the entire gaming culture was a good idea to be funded). Censorship abound everywhere, they actually could have just ended it all by throwing Zoe Quinn under the bus - to this day given how much these bastards are just self interested assholes I don't understand why they didn't cut all ties with her the second the Zoe Post cited the Five Guys.

But since then, every single one of the anti's/SJW's "victories" have proven phyric, hollow, and ultimately worthless. GTA V ban in Australia? Nobody really thinks about that anymore. Shirtgate? Still forgotten in the annuals of history, since what that guy did was a legit scientific accomplishment of our time, though simultaneously the part where more people wanted to buy that exact shirt probably pissed off all the idiots who tried to make a big lasting deal about the guy's poor choice in sensible occasion wear. The IDGA Blockbot? One humiliating disaster over another without any action on part of the GGers whatsoever.

And that's why this is a war of attrition, a question of how much more the antis/SJW camps can keep living their delusions of being in control. Every move they make against Gamergate has to be a character assassination or censorship of something on an individual level, because that's all they know how to coordinate attacks. More often than not, these singular attacks either backfire (child porn on 8chan plot) or ultimately never quite acomplish the hoped-for cascading effect where taking out a promiment figure in the GG camp will be like destroying the supports of a bridge or something, as GGers will come together and support each other when need be, and since the movement's closest thing to a real "leader" is Hotwheels, a.k.a. the man who has outwitted all attempts to silence him to the point of being a virtual Rasputin almost, the anti's/SJW camp's only attack strategy can't bring down the entire GG community.

But at the same time, the anti's/SJWs are slowly falling apart because they're so concentrated on a few specific leader-like people; Wu, Chu, Sarkesian/Macintosh, etc. Even the mod for Ghazi deciding to retreat for good caused absolute chaos for a few days because the majority of the anti's/SJW camp are followers, not leaders. Every time one of those "faces" of the anti-GG camp does something awful or hypocricial, they get called out on it and more supporters are hemoraged as they finally gain self-awareness. Without a single focus to blindly concentrate on, the hordes are turning on each other and their "leaders" are just becoming more like broken records as they don't even DO anything that isn't predictable at this point - which is whine about soggy kees and such shit in editorials and on Twitter.

All in all, all the anti-GG movement ever was to its "leaders" was a garunteed internet army of morons and a steady stream of extra pocket change...initially. It's been months since and those same leaders are desperately trying to stay relevant as they finally realize the gaming community as a whole has been slowly shifting away from them the whole time. Because unlike the anti's, the GG camp doesn't give a shit about how extreme the SJW's or anti's claim the changes to gaming need to be, all they ever wanted was to play their games in peace.
The funniest thing about all this is that the antis are more responsible for having sustained gamergate this long than anyone in gamergate itself.
 
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