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While Cyperpunk 2077 might end up being a shit show its fun watching Video Game Journalist loose their mind that Streamers are getting keys before they are

That 'reviewer' in particular... I wonder why a game company hasn't sent a key to someone who is guaranteed to shit all over it for political/trans reasons and not give a single fuck about the gameplay. I can't think why that would be... :thinking:
 
As Cyberpunk 2077 is finally coming out and Video Game Journalist really find out just how meaningless they are the weepy sob articles are already starting:

A Warning About ‘Cyberpunk 2077’ Reviews​

When Cyberpunk 2077 finally comes out on December 10, it is destined to be among the biggest games of the year. Not just in terms of sales—that’s more or less inevitable. But also in terms of conversation: especially since this is happening in December with less competition, expect the discourse to go hard and not let up for months. But also, and this is an important point, in terms of sheer scope. A few weeks ago, a QA tester pointed to a still-unfinished 175 hour game, and while this is definitely on the high end, nothing that we’ve seen indicates that this will be anything less than a massive experience. And that matters for reviews.

So far, code distribution seems a little scattered for this game: I obviously can’t speak for every outlet, and I feel confident that some people have probably had a bit more time with it. But I have yet to receive code, and I know that a lot of other people are likely in the same boat. So at that point, even if I get that code right now, as I type this article, it makes it functionally impossible to get a review out for release. Even a little more time—a week or so, maybe—would make the process of slamming through this game in time before either release or an embargo a few days before release a nightmare.

Cyberpunk 2077 has been the subject of plenty of scrutiny regarding crunch in development, but it happens on a much smaller scale when it comes to reviews. Everyone wants to get their reviews out as soon as possible, to hit embargo if that’s a possibility, or release if it’s not. And that means a lot of reviewers are likely powering through a massive experience in ways that few other gamers could ever hope to replicate, pulling multiple 12 hour sessions, mainlining story content and ignoring side stuff, or just sort of warping the experience in manner of ways. Yes, people are going to work hard and do their absolute best to evaluate this game in a reasonable way for you. But there are hurdles along that path.

The most obvious problem is that it just sort of makes your experience of the game worse: if you push past the point where you would have put the game down if it were up to you and play for like, 6 more hours, you’re gonna have a bad time. But that doesn’t necessarily mean the score goes down, because as a reviewer you know that part of that unpleasantness might be because you’re playing the game in an unnatural way, and so you forgive certain sins based on the idea that someone playing this at a more human pace might not experience things in the same way.

On top of that, Stockholm Syndrome can set in after a little while, forcing you to justify this absurd endeavor by giving the entire experience the benefit of the doubt. The last massive game I slammed through for the purposes of hitting embargo was Red Dead Redemption 2, and I’ll be honest that I definitely gave that game a higher score than I should have based on the intensity of the playthrough and writing process warping my experience. I also had a worse time with it, so it’s a real lose/lose there.

Again, I cannot speak for every single outlet out there, and I don’t know if other reviewers have had more time. But I just finished Assassin’s Creed: Valhalla in like 65 hours, and that took me like a month. Others might take more or less time to wrack up that many hours in a single game, but that feels like a reasonable amount of time to take on a massive game. No game, even one as huge as Cyberpunk 2077, is giving people that amount of time before a review.

I’m not saying scores will be higher, or lower, because these things can affect things in all sorts of ways. But if you’re reading a review in the days before or after release, it’s important to note that it was most definitely produced under very different circumstances than what a normal playthrough, so keep that in ming.


Oh my fucking god nobody cares you hack. Just stream the fucking game and then write about it a bit later.
 

Disc

I want my cringe New Years Announcement, dammit.
As Cyberpunk 2077 is finally coming out and Video Game Journalist really find out just how meaningless they are the weepy sob articles are already starting:




Oh my fucking god nobody cares you hack. Just stream the fucking game and then write about it a bit later.
To be fair, it's a fair point that it's hard to review a game if you don't even have time to look at it before the review is due. And any journalist admitting that their review is fundamentally different from a normal player's experience is a good start.
 
I wish they would stop bringing up the "unfinished 150+ hour game" into the discussion, that shit came from a guy in QA, his job is to spend hours and hours in that game.
Also if he's going to whine about having to take a month to finish a game instead of spending his time rambling about Blumpf on twitter, then maybe he shouldn't be a "video game" journalist.
 

Dysnomia

Danzai!
It already is/has.
TL:biggrin:W, the whole "Male feminist turns out to be a sex pest" is the "conservative family values politician turns out to be gay" for millennials. There's no shortage of examples.

That video was made 3 years ago, and the phrase has been around since at least 2016. So there's 3 more years of accusations. MovieBob is on the front page.
Lab Zero Games is another that I can think of.


I think it's going to be dead in a few years, or at least dead as it can be. The same way the hippy movement defined the 60s, or environmentalism defined the 00s, social justice (and the fashion) with define the 10s. The movement is basically dead and we're just waiting for that to filter out of companies. I haven't seem someone dressed as Tumblr in real life for a couple of years.

Game journalism lasted longer than I predicted because I didn't expect tech companies to keep buying them, keeping them on life support.

I put the cut off date in gaming around 2023, maybe 2026 given that Capcom went full woke recently. Their woke games will under perform and will be considered offensive anyway, they will abandon wokeness, but they'll be too far along on current woke projects to remove the wokeness, so those games will be quietly shipped and the new wave of unwoke games will start. We'll have people quitting or get quit. Others will drop social justice and pretend it never happened.

We're seeing this in comics and when Penguin Random House announced Jordan Peterson's new book. [Brand] have no loyalty to the ideology and those that do are too low ranking to do anything about it. Those that have woke at high levels will go down with the ship, blaming capitalism the whole way.

Edit: Fixed typo.

I just saw two tumblr fashionistas in one month. And one was a tranny. I think. I didn't ask him for pronouns.

I am worried about Capcom. I hope you are right that the wokeness is only a temporary cashgrab. The people they are pandering to don't play games much and seem to just like character creators where they can make turquoise haired trannies to show off on social media.
 

Megaroad 2012

CELEBRITY PRESIDENT COMING THROUGH.
What's this Capcom woke shit? Village definitely doesn't look woke and their last games were free and clear, even if Jill's monologue about greed made me lol in remake 3.
 

Smaug's Smokey Hole

Sweeney did nothing wrong.
To be fair, it's a fair point that it's hard to review a game if you don't even have time to look at it before the review is due. And any journalist admitting that their review is fundamentally different from a normal player's experience is a good start.
Depends on the player, I wouldn't do it these days but when I was younger I would absolutely play big releases that way. There's still players that do that, dig around any forum thread or reddit thread and you will find people raging over delays close to release because there's always some that applied for and had been given vacation time that week, just so they could play from dusk til dawn for a couple of days.

I don't think it's a good way to play most games but the game journalist signed up for it, gets paid for it, so get back into the bitmines and be happy that you get paid a NY media sized paycheck for something people are already doing for free.
 

Screw Danlon

Bun-bun Cha
To be fair, it's a fair point that it's hard to review a game if you don't even have time to look at it before the review is due. And any journalist admitting that their review is fundamentally different from a normal player's experience is a good start.
I also wish that game reviewers could just straight up say “look, I didn’t finish all of the game, but from what I‘ve played thus far - 20, 30 hours in, it’s been great/terrible thus far.”

I mean, aside from the fact that we already know some reviewers don’t finish games and lie about it anyway... I rarely finish games, and I know a lot of other people who don’t either. Also, if you’re 20 hours into a game and it’s not good yet, or it’s already been fun enough to feel it’s worth your time, that should be valid. I’ll probably never beat Factorio, but the amount of fun I’ve had playing it in the 50 or 60 hours I’ve played is still worth it. I’ll probably never finish all of Witcher 3, but the 25 hours I’ve spent with it have been some of the best narrative I’ve seen.
 

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AnOminous

there ain't no turning back
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While Cyperpunk 2077 might end up being a shit show its fun watching Video Game Journalist loose their mind that Streamers are getting keys before they are

Why wouldn't they bypass these worthless leeches? At least the streamers can be guaranteed actually to play the games and expose them to people who might want to buy them after seeing gameplay footage by someone better than a pigeon at playing games who can make it past the tutorial. But yeah they should definitely give it to these "journalists" so they can wail and babble about trannies or whatever other crazy shit.
 

Vault Boy

Corporate Mascot of Vault-Tec.
The Gamespot Cyberpunk review is truly exceptional


TL: DW - reviewer doesn't bother with exploring or upgrades, says there's no point getting a new vehicle when she already has one, there's too much side content in this rpg, and she doesn't want to help the police or kill people. 7/10.
As I suspected, of course the reviewer would be focusing on petty shit and failing to fully experience the game.

People can crow about the game being buggy all they want, but this is a clickbait review through and through.
 
The game is a shitty, buggy mess and a 7/10 is probably a pretty generous score if the gameplay is anything like the leaks we've seen.

As much as I dislike Jim Sterling, he was completely right about how the spergs who were screeching about TLOU2's reviews would have absolutely no problem with Cyberpunk getting treated with kids' gloves by reviewers.

Why wouldn't they bypass these worthless leeches? At least the streamers can be guaranteed actually to play the games and expose them to people who might want to buy them after seeing gameplay footage by someone better than a pigeon at playing games who can make it past the tutorial. But yeah they should definitely give it to these "journalists" so they can wail and babble about trannies or whatever other crazy shit.

Influencers are easy to bribe and manipulate, sure, but they're also going to have to play the game. And it's very clear that CDPR doesn't want anyone to actually see the game being played freely yet. Probably because of the countless bugs and technical issues. Especially on console. None of the reviewers were allowed to show their own footage.
 
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AnOminous

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They are telling streamers we will straight up send lawyers after you if you stream before 3 am PST Dec 9th.
So all of a day or two. If you agreed to an NDA for that key I don't really see the problem. Still buggy releases is why I never pay full price for AAA stuff. I'd rather pay half the price in a year and let consoomers pay top dollar to do a company's beta testing for them.
 
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