The only people that seriously care about segregated bathrooms or whatever are transgenders...and they're maybe 1% of the population? Normal people are comfortable using the appropriate spaces for their gender.
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Tismguide
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What's it like? How are you and your fellow kids taking it? I always alternate between worrying about ideologues indoctrinating The Kids and remembering D.A.R.E. etc and the important role it played in me realizing how full of shit the war on drugs was, how adults are just incoherent on certain topics, and thinking The Kids will be alright.
Sheit. This was a fucking year ago. My last year of hs, lol. Basically, they showed us pamphlets and guides to all the LGBTQ+ terms or whatever. It didn't go that far, but it went far enough around the AIIP point which is kinda shit. The thing that they forced down most was the whole "personal pronouns" shit which I don't like.
From what I remember, most of the other kids didn't care about it. I didn't care about it much either, but I kind of tried to argue back at my counselor, but meh, I ceased. At the end of the day, I'm a minority (figuratively and literally) and I don't think students trust the authority of another student, so I kept my guard down.
HonestJohn2376
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We already have gender neutral safe space bathrooms.
I would say gender is a social category that often but does not always overlap with sex. Sex is a biological category that is based on chromosomes, gonads, and secondary sexual characteristics. Gender is a category a society puts you in depending on how that society perceives your sex. I say "a society", because while most societies share similar broad strokes about the man and woman genders, there are differences in minutia. One example is if a society recognizes other genders as a possibility.
For most people, sex and gender easily go together like they are the same thing. But not always. There are people with XY chromosomes but have bodies that do not react to testosterone to produce male gonads and other characteristics. These people look like women and act like women in almost every way. So while you could say these people are of the male sex (if you strictly look only at chromosomes at least), it would be absurd to put them into the man gender category. They have XY chromosomes but are women.
As for the "separate but equal" issue, I personally think it best if mainstream society officially recognizes three genders: man, woman, and other. There is no need to eat alphabet soup in accounting for 72 genders. People should just recognize that an "other" category exists and accommodate for it if necessary. Many small businesses already have unisex bathrooms anyway. I do not see how huge enterprises building an extra bathroom (or just building unisex bathrooms in the first place) should be a problem.
I agree. Gender dysphoria is a serious medical condition, and transitioning is medical treatment meant to treat a condition. Transitioning is a very serious decision that has lasting effects on the body, so it should never be done lightly. Transitioning should not be an ideological prop for transtrenders and other LARPing dipshits.
Also, congratulations to IronLiz.
I would say gender is a social category that often but does not always overlap with sex. Sex is a biological category that is based on chromosomes, gonads, and secondary sexual characteristics. Gender is a category a society puts you in depending on how that society perceives your sex. I say "a society", because while most societies share similar broad strokes about the man and woman genders, there are differences in minutia. One example is if a society recognizes other genders as a possibility.
For most people, sex and gender easily go together like they are the same thing. But not always. There are people with XY chromosomes but have bodies that do not react to testosterone to produce male gonads and other characteristics. These people look like women and act like women in almost every way. So while you could say these people are of the male sex (if you strictly look only at chromosomes at least), it would be absurd to put them into the man gender category. They have XY chromosomes but are women.
As for the "separate but equal" issue, I personally think it best if mainstream society officially recognizes three genders: man, woman, and other. There is no need to eat alphabet soup in accounting for 72 genders. People should just recognize that an "other" category exists and accommodate for it if necessary. Many small businesses already have unisex bathrooms anyway. I do not see how huge enterprises building an extra bathroom (or just building unisex bathrooms in the first place) should be a problem.
I agree. Gender dysphoria is a serious medical condition, and transitioning is medical treatment meant to treat a condition. Transitioning is a very serious decision that has lasting effects on the body, so it should never be done lightly. Transitioning should not be an ideological prop for transtrenders and other LARPing dipshits.
Also, congratulations to IronLiz.
"Gender critical" has done its job to break down the gender barriers between sexes. What happened wasn't something to benefit women; what happened was something that benefitted largely mentally ill people (and the handful of actual transsexuals out there, who before all this probably would have been just happy being gay).
And transgender people have alot of influence. People want to support policies that are best for them and will fight for whatever they want.
Hell, they even defended Yaniv when she attacked ethnic minorities for quite a while.
SigSauer
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Feminism is cultural marxism. I hate it in western countries. But I think it can be of use in destabilizing our enemies, namely those filthy Russians and the middle east. For example, here's some based Egyptian feminists shitting and smearing period blood on the (((ISIS))) flag, meanwhile in America and Europe, feminists are shouting Allahu Akbar and supporting ISIS. So it really is a double-edged sword, I'd say.
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If gender pronouns and states of gender outside of male or female assist in helping the mentally challenged and/or deranged cope with the world, I will oblige. But if they dare force and enshrine it as official social policy, then I will resist it with all my strength. Such trivial divisions are distracting to the real problems in the world.
They have more influence right now because people still buy into the "THEYRE JUST LIKE YOU AND ME" stuff, and as they get more public exposure, people are going to see that this largely isn't true. I've noticed "gender critical feminism" or terf becoming more popular in recent years than 5 or 10 years ago, so that would signal a shift even among the leftists. The right wing has always been REEEing about them.
It's ironic because the "i am a special genderkin" shit only hurts their cause. If it's just a tranny, whatever, I will do my best to respect your pronouns if I feel like it. But if you have a beard and put forth no effort to pass, I ain't calling you a woman. And I ain't calling you anything but her/he/they
As much as I love seeing milkworthy troons I mostly just feel sorry for the trans people who seem to mostly have their heads on straight. Particularly the old school transexuals who were getting on relatively fine before the whole gender mania happened and who seem to largely resent TRA's (trans radical activists) for bringing them unwanted attention or for turning them into political props that they can use as a token minority to further their own ends.
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ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.
