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[Elijah]

I'll assume you're sane, because you're here and you're not chimping out.

What is your opinion on SRS? Because surgery is generally only done to cure, or at least treat, some actual medical condition.

Surgery that is done just because somebody wants it is considered "elective" or is outright illegal, like surgeries for people who want to amputate a limb because of some severe psychological disturbance.

Surgery that is done for some legitimate medical reason, though, can be paid for by insurance or by entitlements like Medicaid.

I tend to think that if someone has a condition, whether it's a "mental illness" or whatever, that puts them at serious risk of depression, suicide, and otherwise torments them and that if there is a medical procedure (like SRS) that has been shown in studies to lead to positive outcomes and increased wellness, that this probably should be covered by insurance.

At the same time, categorizing it as a "mental illness" has some pretty unfortunate implications, like the inclusion of homosexuality as a mental illness. I have long viewed that as a medical and legal fiction essentially used to justify procedures that are useful for their recipients even though the theoretical underpinnings of why that is the case are pretty murky, to say the least.

So how do we both serve people who legitimately need a complex and expensive surgical procedure to avoid severe psychological distress with a ridiculously high suicide rate involved, while not performing unnecessary (and harmful) procedures on people who don't need it and are just acting out? I mean the idiots influenced by "tucute" bullshit who are usually ridiculously immature, stupid, ignorant people who reject the whole idea of medicine.

The WPATH standards of transgender care include being grilled pretty hard to discern whether you're actually trans, but parts of me just think "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" for people pursuing life changing, irreversible surgery because tumblr told them it was neat. Then again, most of these people are misguided children, and don't really deserve to have their life ruined. I think a lot of them will drop the bullshit once they start the transition process and actually dip their toes in being harassed by strangers and having their body change into something they never really wanted to be in the first place. I wonder if trans health doctors will eventually have "weeding out tumblrinas" as a part of their training regimen.

 

[sassyma seed]

Yeah most of this thread should prolly be moved to off topic or deep thoughts or something.

Let's get back on track and laugh at people.

General complaining about people needing to stay in their lane.

Very articulate my friend.

And of course, insert obvious joke here.

 

[Erica]

(Long post)The topic about anything relating to tranny stuff always confuses me. Not to the point where I don't want to understand but more to the point that's it's too frustrating to understand. Each individual has their own grasp on what it's like to be tranny. Some people say they experience dsyphoria(which is the basics) then you have people who say they don't. At first you would think that the only way to not feel dsyphoria anymore would be that they finally feel as though they're the sex they want to be. But then you have people who's like "I'm comfortable with myself" so then what are you trying to transition to? It makes me think that it's just a phase, like being emo or whatever. Then you have those type of people who will try to argue with that you have no right to speak on the matter when they honestly don't know what the fck they're trying to say themselves. I remember getting hate from the tranny community on this site when I post a thread mentioning this girl who I use to be friends with changing their gender because "lol yaoiz" and her boyfriend who honestly thought she was a boy broke up with her because she really was a girl. So he got a lot of hate for breaking up with her because she's a "valid tranny" despite her not having any type of dysphoria, she was just fetshing the concept(it's actually kinda weird knowing that most of the people on the internet who say they're "boys" are actually just girls" and the majority of them are "gay" and like readied gay anime sex so you kinda see where they wanting to be a boy). This may honestly get power level ratings but this is something I honestly do want to understand.

IMO you are right; being a tranny is the new emo/scene/gay/bisexual phase of dumb kids today. Gender dysphoria IS transgender, there's no way around it. It's just when LGBT rights started gaining massive traction, the "T" finally got its turn, and now that's what these tumblr kids see as being hip and progressive.

I expect it to die out eventually.

 

[Melkor]

(Long post)The topic about anything relating to tranny stuff always confuses me. Not to the point where I don't want to understand but more to the point that's it's too frustrating to understand. Each individual has their own grasp on what it's like to be tranny. Some people say they experience dsyphoria(which is the basics) then you have people who say they don't. At first you would think that the only way to not feel dsyphoria anymore would be that they finally feel as though they're the sex they want to be. But then you have people who's like "I'm comfortable with myself" so then what are you trying to transition to? It makes me think that it's just a phase, like being emo or whatever. Then you have those type of people who will try to argue with that you have no right to speak on the matter when they honestly don't know what the fck they're trying to say themselves. I remember getting hate from the tranny community on this site when I post a thread mentioning this girl who I use to be friends with changing their gender because "lol yaoiz" and her boyfriend who honestly thought she was a boy broke up with her because she really was a girl. So he got a lot of hate for breaking up with her because she's a "valid tranny" despite her not having any type of dysphoria, she was just fetshing the concept(it's actually kinda weird knowing that most of the people on the internet who say they're "boys" are actually just girls" and the majority of them are "gay" and like reading gay anime sex so you kinda see where they wanting to be a boy). This may honestly get power level ratings but this is something I honestly do want to understand.

I'll answer this in bits and pieces.

Some people say they experience dsyphoria(which is the basics) then you have people who say they don't.

If they don't experience dysphoria, they're not tranny. Plain and simple.

But then you have people who's like "I'm comfortable with myself" so then what are you trying to transition to? It makes me think that it's just a phase, like being emo or whatever.

That's exactly what it is to them; a phase. If they're comfortable with who they are, they aren't tranny.

Then you have those type of people who will try to argue with that you have no right to speak on the matter when they honestly don't know what the fck they're trying to say themselves.

That's like saying a white person has no say in race issues. It's incredibly invalidating.

 

[AnOminous]

That's exactly what it is to them; a phase. If they're comfortable with who they are, they aren't tranny.

That's my viewpoint, really.

But it makes me a shitlord by definition and little better than a Nazi.

But that's how tumblr treats legitimate trannies, so fuck that definition. I have absolute contempt for tumblr shit that treats people legitimately suffering dysphoria as somehow being worse than 16 year old rich white kids who just made up a condition to get into the cool LGBTQ club. Even though they're just straight white rich kids.

 

[Melkor]

That's my viewpoint, really.

But it makes me a shitlord by definition and little better than a Nazi.

But that's how tumblr treats legitimate trannies, so fuck that definition. I have absolute contempt for tumblr shit that treats people legitimately suffering dysphoria as somehow being worse than 16 year old rich white kids who just made up a condition to get into the cool LGBTQ club. Even though they're just straight white rich kids.

Tumblr's just a massive echo chamber where, if your opinions deviate only slightly from the perceived norm, you're considered absolute garbage.

 

[Trombonista]

Yeah most of this thread should prolly be moved to off topic or deep thoughts or something.

Let's get back on track and laugh at people.
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And of course, insert obvious joke here.

 

[AnOminous]

Why should society and Medicaid and other social programs pay money to trannies who say there's nothing wrong with them at all and they don't need medical treatment?

Good. You're happy. So enjoy that and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

 

[TiredConlanger]

I'm tranny as well, but I don't want to be labeled as mentally ill for being a tranny.

Gender dysphoria doesn't really have a DSM-V diagnosis (as far as I know; correct me if I'm wrong), unless you count Body Dysmorphic Disorder.

You don't have to be tranny to experience dysphoria, too. I mean this as in, you can have discomfort about your massive thighs, or your broad shoulders. Dysphoria can manifest as simple body image issues, so it's not always a tranny thing.

You do, however, need gender dysphoria to be tranny.

It does have a DSM-5 diagnosis. It is in its own separate category now, instead of under sexual function disorders like previously. It has a differential diagnosis of gender nonconformity, which is not supposed to be treated for obvious reasons. Unfortunately, Tumblr doesn't care about that distinction because "psychologists r evil amiright?" So they conflate gender dysphoria and gender nonconformity, tossing aside dysphoria and replacing it with the role conformity as if that is the defining factor of being a tranny.

(Admittedly, young children tend to be very concrete when expressing the disorder and focus more on the "I like trucks/dresses/whatever" than adolescents and adults, but Tumblrtards are too old to fall under the child diagnostic criteria. And young children need to have most of the signs in children before they can be diagnosed.)

However, I'd argue there's a damn good reason that it's in the DSM- who are people gonna go to if they feel like they should have the sex traits of the opposite sex and/or that their sex's traits are fundamentally alien? I certainly didn't go to a doctor. I went to a councilor.

 

[Anime-Chan]

Today my English Tutor told me he was trans. I found it shocking because I never ask nor really cared. I just mostly ponder why he told me. And then he told me his background story and said he mostly transition because his lover was also trans. Both were male to female. And I honestly was confuse because it just reminded me about the gender dysphoria again. It really threw me off because bro is like in their late 30's.

 

[Melkor]

Today my English Tutor told me he was tranny. I found it shocking because I never ask nor really cared. I just mostly ponder why he told me. And then he told me his background story and said he mostly transition because his lover was also tranny. Both were male to female. And I honestly was confuse because it just reminded me about the gender dysphoria again. It really threw me off because bro is like in their late 30's.

Not all trannies are 15 year old tumblrinas that are faking it.

 

[Anime-Chan]

Not all trannies are 15 year old tumblrinas that are faking it.

My English instructor isn't 15

 

[Melkor]

My English instructor isn't 15

That's my point. There are people over 21 who are tranny.

 

[Anime-Chan]

That's my point. There are people over 21 who are tranny.

Ok I guess
Any others?

 

[Lachlan Hunter McIntyre]

It annoys me when people say 'trans' in reference to gender dysphoria. You're not trans if you don't feel you're female/male. Transgender/transsexual is the term used for someone who is transitioning or has transitioned between genders, whether it be with hormones or surgery or both. People and their lack of English skills.

 

[Anime-Chan]

It annoys me when people say 'tranny' in reference to gender dysphoria. You're not tranny if you don't feel you're female/male. Transgender/transsexual is the term used for someone who is transitioning or has transitioned between genders, whether it be with hormones or surgery or both. People and their lack of English skills.

Is this towards me lol? Because I'm still learning English.

 

[Melkor]

It annoys me when people say 'tranny' in reference to gender dysphoria. You're not tranny if you don't feel you're female/male. Transgender/transsexual is the term used for someone who is transitioning or has transitioned between genders, whether it be with hormones or surgery or both. People and their lack of English skills.

Tranny is the word filter used for the word tran.s.

 

[Lachlan Hunter McIntyre]

Is this towards me lol? Because I'm still learning English.

Naw, mate. I'm not that passive-aggressive. I woulda PMed you if I was referring to you.
I was stating off-handedly in reference to Dumblr-tards saying they're trans because they feel like a boy sometimes (and let's face it, 99% of them are girls saying this)

 

[Mrs Paul]

But there almost definitely is, no healthy person experiences dysphoria. I mean we don't know exactly but it's likely to do with brain structure and in-utero hormone washes.

You might as well say autism isn't medical, or any other chronic mental/brain condition.

IIRC, haven't they shone during autopsies of trans people that their brain structures usually match the gender they switch to?

Of course, since you can't perform an autopsy on a life person, you can't really prove this is the case with everyone who claims to be trans, but I think it shows that yeah, it's a medical or at least, a genetic condition.

I mean, I can't honestly see someone waking up one morning and saying, "gee, I'm tired of being a man/woman! I'll be the opposite from now on!" Maybe back in the day when women had to disguise themselves for certain reasons (to go to war, to make a living, even to become pirates, etc), but just for shits and giggles? No way.

 

[RM 810]

IIRC, haven't they shone during autopsies of tranny people that their brain structures usually match the gender they switch to?

Of course, since you can't perform an autopsy on a life person, you can't really prove this is the case with everyone who claims to be tranny, but I think it shows that yeah, it's a medical or at least, a genetic condition.

I mean, I can't honestly see someone waking up one morning and saying, "gee, I'm tired of being a man/woman! I'll be the opposite from now on!" Maybe back in the day when women had to disguise themselves for certain reasons (to go to war, to make a living, even to become pirates, etc), but just for shits and giggles? No way.

Yeah, there have been examples of that, and now that we have better imaging equipment there's been examinations of live brains, which do show that FTMs have brains more similar to males, and MTFs have brains more similar to females, there's not a great deal of research on this yet, but what has been done is all showing similar things.

There's also the David Reimer case, which was the first real proof we had of brain sex. Thankfully that experiment's never been repeated though.