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OvercookedBacon

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By the way, is Brodie Lee still a threat, or is he just the requisite VKM parody gimmick now? 'cause it'd be hilarious if it wasn't fucking depressing. (:_(
You know, for a company that claims to not care about WWE, they sure do love taking potshots at them. TNA had this exact same problem back in the 2000s. Focus on your own company first before worrying about others.
 

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Kyle Avgvstvs, Antifvs Maximvs. AVE KYLE
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Ortiz injected some much needed energy last night into whatever this MJF-Jericho thing is

Maxwell and Chris hamming it up doing basically the same gimmick gets stale fast
 

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If you thought Brodie was a threat and not a transitional champion because Cody had to film a TV series...well...

The whole VKM angle is shit anyways because there's only so much that you can lampoon on an individual person before you run out of material. Eventually it will lead to Brodie "booking matches" for a show or two, it will suck, and we'll move on.
Usually transitional champs drop it to someone different from the guy they won it from, though...

How is Cody doing anything different from Helmsley again? :story:
 

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re: Dark Order

Weren't they supposed to be Scurll's stable until he decided to remain with ROH at the last second?

They should've been angled as The Flock 2.0, where it's a bunch of Literally Who's surrounding a leader (the guy you're actually pushing). Let it run for a year or so, THEN if you're high on one of the members, have them break away and feud with the leader. Having so many people they're trying to push (Anna Jay, Colt, Uno and Greyson, etc.) in the group muddies the waters and loses the groups focus.

I do actually like Lee's 'cult leader' persona. Dude has a ton of charisma and it's obvious the WWE was wasting him to a criminal degree. It's much better when he leans into the Jim Jones aspect rather than parodying Vince, which leads me to...

re: Vince parody gimmicks

Vince parody gimmicks ("Mr. Brodie Lee" in AEW, Voodoo Kin Mafia in TNA, etc. etc.) always come across as low rent and cringy. Big "notice me senpai!" energy, made all the worse by WWE/Vince not even acknowledging the promotion, let alone the angle.

Vince has plenty of money; there's no reason to let him live rent free in their heads.

re: Thunder Rosa to WWE

A shame, if true. She'll be wasted there. Rosa works best when she's a big fish in a small pond. She'll just be another solid worker in a sea of solid workers in the WWE. They'll have her doing bad comedy within a year.

AEW should have offered her however much money she wanted, had her and Deebs train the division properly and built the division in a large part around her. Then again, if they'd done that, it'd only be a matter of time before she was jobbed out to whatever dumb idea Brandi is involved in.

re: Kenny Omega

I have never understood the hype and getting to see him do his thing on AEW weekly, I understand it even less now. He has no real charisma, can't talk and, like, he does some cool moves, I guess, but so do plenty of people. What's his deal? Did workrate obsessed IWC spergs just meme him into being considered the best ever by saying it enough, and everyone just parrots it now? I know he and Okada had some classic matches and he had a string of 5+ star matches in NJPW, but how much of that was him and how much of those were because of his own purported greatness and how much was because his opponents were top tier dudes at the peak of their game?
 
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re: Kenny Omega

I have never understood the hype and getting to see him do his thing on AEW weekly, I understand it even less now. He has no real charisma, can't talk and, like, he does some cool moves, I guess, but so do plenty of people. What's his deal? Did workrate obsessed IWC spergs just meme him into being considered the best ever by saying it enough, and everyone just parrots it now? I know he and Okada had some classic matches and he had a string of 5+ star matches in NJPW, but how much of that was him and how much of those were because of his own purported greatness and how much was because his opponents were top tier dudes at the peak of their game?
It's a mix of things, because he wouldn't have gotten to NJPW if he couldn't go, but at the same time, there's a reason he spent an inordinate number of years in freaking DDT.

Gedo saw he had talent beyond wrestling little girls and inflatable dolls, so he placed him in Bullet Club to groom him into a main guy, and since AJ Styles, the Good Bros. and Nakamura all left in one sweep, shoved a rocket up his ass. And frankly for a while it was alright... until he got the Bucks' brand of "meme wrestling lol" autism AND a bad case of huffing his own god damned farts, which ended with him basically doing less moves than Cena while still having the likes of Meltzer riding his leaf dick.
 

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Joey Ryan going super woke as a transparently obvious, shallow, calculated career move/attempt to cash in and then literally immediately getting cannibalized by his new wokeoid "friends" is the funniest wrestling story of 2020 by far.
Especially since once he got fucked by the wokeoids, he started sueing everyone.
 
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OvercookedBacon

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re: Kenny Omega

I have never understood the hype and getting to see him do his thing on AEW weekly, I understand it even less now. He has no real charisma, can't talk and, like, he does some cool moves, I guess, but so do plenty of people. What's his deal? Did workrate obsessed IWC spergs just meme him into being considered the best ever by saying it enough, and everyone just parrots it now? I know he and Okada had some classic matches and he had a string of 5+ star matches in NJPW, but how much of that was him and how much of those were because of his own purported greatness and how much was because his opponents were top tier dudes at the peak of their game?
I honestly only know him from his comedy matches (look up the one where he interrupts the guy playing Super Mario World and they have a full blown match in gear), but I can sort of understand his appeal with the nerdier crowd, since he's a total weeb and gaming sperg.
 
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"Samoa Joe! I know who that is! It has to be Serena Vega, stepsister of Zelina Vega!"

"I know Michael, but what is she doing here?"

Please God don't let them do this.

You missed the part where some green-as-gooseshit PC recruit drops her on her head and ends her career/puts her out for months with no reprecussions because their dad was famous in the 90s/they have big fake tits.
 

Sir Wesley Tailpipe

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You missed the part where some green-as-gooseshit PC recruit drops her on her head and ends her career/puts her out for months with no reprecussions because their dad was famous in the 90s/they have big fake tits.
Or Nia Jax sits on her.

UPDATE

Billy Corgan has released a statement that Thunder Rosa is still under NWA contract and has NOT signed anywhere else.

In WWE news, the war on people having normal names continues. The latest casualty is Matt Riddle, who has had his first name amputated and will now be known simply as Riddle.

For real.

Seriously.

What the actual fuck, Vince?
 
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trent

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Vince also went into full SHUT IT DOWN mode in regards to Twitch. So far AJ Styles, Mia Yim, Paige, Alestir Black, Zalina, and Cesaro had their channels shut overnight.

Paige put out a scathing statement about it on her social media which is probably going to get her fired. Fair fucks to her.
 
Paige put out a scathing statement about it on her social media which is probably going to get her fired. Fair fucks to her.


I do agree that classifying them as independent contractors is completely wrong, and if they are then they should be able to stream under their own names. But given that the WWE is paying Paige to sit at home and do fuck all, whilst she constantly publicly slags them off and begs on Twitch for subs in a time where millions are facing unemployment, means I don't feel that sympathetic.
 

ToddleDoddle

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I do agree that classifying them as independent contractors is completely wrong, and if they are then they should be able to stream under their own names. But given that the WWE is paying Paige to sit at home and do fuck all, whilst she constantly publicly slags them off and begs on Twitch for subs in a time where millions are facing unemployment, means I don't feel that sympathetic.
It's not her fault the WWE isn't creative and can't come up for non-wrestling shit for her to do. It's not like she is refusing to work. Somebody needs to push back on this so I hope Paige makes a huge fuss about it.
 
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captkrisma

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It's not her fault the WWE isn't creative and can't come up for non-wrestling shit for her to do. It's not like she is refusing to work. Somebody needs to push back on this so I hope Paige makes a huge fuss about it.
If I'm not mistaken, I believe several doctors gave her the all-clear to wrestle again as well. Very similar to the Daniel Bryan case in that everyone but WWE docs said that they are good to go.
 
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