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I do agree that classifying them as independent contractors is completely wrong, and if they are then they should be able to stream under their own names. But given that the WWE is paying Paige to sit at home and do fuck all, whilst she constantly publicly slags them off and begs on Twitch for subs in a time where millions are facing unemployment, means I don't feel that sympathetic.
She’s probably pissed because she wanted to start an OnlyFans and didn’t want to give up a cut.
 

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Watching AAA Autoluchas drive-in show that's on atm
Car horns really aren't far from the traditional lucha crowd experience. Too bad it's on facebook video so it only sorta works.
 

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Apparently, Kylie Rae notified her Patreon(?) followers that she's quitting wrestling over unspecified... uh, "unwellness". She's also locked/deactivated her social media for the time being. Hopefully she'll get actual help for whatever her problems are.
I think she finally realized she just can’t get over her anxiety/stage fright issues and that she just had to hang it up. I read her statement, and it seems she came to her senses about it after that last breakdown and is walking away to get her head straight and live a quiet life without wrestling.

I hope it works out for her, since she’s a sweet person by all accounts I’ve read and heard.
 

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I miss the days of actual gimmicks, as corny as it sounds. Give me something stupid yet entertaining over "Hi, I'm a random guy who happens to wrestle" any day.
this is why Mexico is basically a billion times better than US (HBK and Vidya) A and Ja (hurt people for realz or otherwise HBK and Vidya ps Inoki) pan is better than the rest of the world
 
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this is why Mexico is basically a billion times better than US (HBK and Vidya) A and Ja (hurt people for realz or otherwise HBK and Vidya ps Inoki) pan is better than the rest of the world
I absolutely love Mexican stuff, it still has this larger than life quality that American wrestling seems to have lost over the years. Wrestling needs that sort of presentation to really work, IMHO.

But back on "Hi, I'm average and I happen to wrestle" gimmicks - TNA had tons of those, sure, but they more than made up for it by tearing the house down on a regular basis. Go look up that one three way X title match between Joe, Styles and Christopher Daniels, you won't regret it.

Edit: Here's the match, enjoy~
 
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I miss the days of actual gimmicks, as corny as it sounds. Give me something stupid yet entertaining over "Hi, I'm a random guy who happens to wrestle" any day.
I've think I've shared this statement before, but I think this is especially an issue with black wrestlers. It's not just contained within the WWE bubble, either.

Jonathan Gresham for example, he goes by "The Octopus" because he is a slippery submission guy right? Lack's the technical depth of Zack Saber or Bryan Dainelson, but has more bulk to make the holds seem viable. Not only that, but he amazing entrance attire. Second he gets in the ring however? Nothing splits him apart from the rest. Especially with the bald head/beard combo, which nearly every failure of 205 Live is rocking right now. He really needs to embrace that "Octopus" element and go all in. Start using the Poison Mist and calling it "Ink Spray" for example. Better yet, I'd encourage some armband sleeves (Like Jeff Hardy) that look like Tentacles or even tassels on the trunks to resemble them. Kids love that sort of vibrant merch.

Being black isn't a gimmick.

Why do you think these Japanese wrestlers get sent aboard to Mexico, the UK etc? Learn from the world around you, not within your self-contained bubble of consumerism.

It's ironically why Scrull was adopted so quickly by many on the indie scene and why WWE seemed very keen to get him at one point. His gimmick is not only complete, but he added layers with time. Not all great, admittedly... But quirks nonetheless. This is something he stressed to Steve Austin on his podcast almost five years ago, when he was making his rise in PWG and Progress. It's also something Regal stresses to young aspiring talent. Be willing to adapt and in turn, self invest and adopt new quirks. If you want new merch, you gotta change your gear every so-often. You want fans to plead for a new model in the next video-game? Spice things up.
 

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