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I know LOLWWE gotta LOLWWE, but why am I supposed to think of McAffee as a heel and should feel sorry for Undisputed Era? As much of a twat as he (McAffee) is, haven't Cole and Friends been a constant arse pain in the entirety of NXT for years?

About the only "heel" thing they actually have done is attack Drake Maverick and Killian Dane, even then, mostly Maverick since Dain is more of a Chaotic Neutral than strict face.
 
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Just got done watching full gear, my thoughts are as follows

Serena Deeb vs Someone whose name I don't remember: 3 out of 5. Solid intro match, nothing super fancy, just a good match. T Rosa showed up after the end to acknowledge she's coming for Deeb.

Omega vs Hangman: 3 out of 5. Another match that was good, but nothing amazing.

Cassidy vs Silver: 3.5 out of 5. Comedy match, some chuckle worthy spots, and Silver with some impressive feats of strength.

Darby vs Cody: 2.5 out of 5. Not quite a bad match, but Darby needs to be able to do more than get the shit beaten out of him and then suddenly win out of nowhere. Match lagged too much, and frankly got a bit boring

Team Tazz Segment: 4 out of 5. Injected some life into the aftermath of Darby vs Cody. I thoroughly enjoy how much Tazz hates Darby. It gives me life.

Nyla vs Shida: 2.5 out of 5. Why the fuck is Shida still champion? She has no feuds, and is never on TV. Put the bet back on Nyla and at least you have a monster heel champ. Finish was also whack, and I think they booked Shida way too strong.

FTR vs The Young Bucks: 4 out of 5: I don't generally care for Young Bucks matche, but this was a really solid match. The meme wrestling was kept to a minimum, and there was a nice in ring story that drew me in. The actual finish was alright,

Hardy vs Sammy: 4.5 out of 5: High tier wrestling autism. Guest spots, ridiculousness moments, bu I do acknowledge that if you don't like Matt Hardy Tism matches, then you'll probably hate this.

Archer Segment: 3 out of 5. Jake and Archer said some things. It was fine I suppose.

Jericho vs MJF: 4 out of 5. This was pretty good, and a nice, fairly traditional match to follow the madness of a Matt Hardy joint, Good stuff, and the finish made me lol

Moxly vs Kingston: 4 out of 5: A nice brutal match to cap the night off. The end was a foregone conclusion, but it had good spectacle, and Moxly and Kingston really sold the animosity and intensity of this match.

Decent show overall. It did more good than it did bad imo.
 

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Darby needs to be able to do more than get the shit beaten out of him and then suddenly win out of nowhere.
I dont disagree with you about the match but thats kinda Darbys gimmick/wrestling style though getting beat up a bunch but still staying just about into the match no matter how long it goes. Probably should of won with a little more than just the roll up though.

One thing i will say though about jericho is you can tell he's getting old/stiff and should probably stop trying to do some of the more technical stuff, there were a couple of moments in this match that just felt awkward including the roll up at the end. it was the same in some of the Cassidy matches too.
 
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The show was pretty good, though I missed the first half. The tag title match was the highlight imo. Just about everything else was solid but not stuff I'll remember in a year's time.

I dont disagree with you about the match but thats kinda Darbys gimmick/wrestling style though getting beat up a bunch but still staying just about into the match no matter how long it goes. Probably should of won with a little more than just the roll up though.
I feel like Darby's kind of like a small skinny Mick Foley. Like, the storyline for Mankind matches, especially later on when he was a face, was always, Mankind is getting the ever-loving shit beat out of him, but he has a lot of heart and keeps coming back for more.
 

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I feel like Darby's kind of like a small skinny Mick Foley. Like, the storyline for Mankind matches, especially later on when he was a face, was always, Mankind is getting the ever-loving shit beat out of him, but he has a lot of heart and keeps coming back for more.

You can still probably make it work to a point with a smaller guy like Darby (and I think, generally speaking, they have), but it's hard to make a champ look good if they're constantly working as the underdog. Which, I suppose, is why Foley never had any terribly long title reigns, and, even though he fought in a lot of singles title matches, didn't win very many.

That said, it's probably a good thing to give Allin the title, even if it does turn out to be a short reign. He's certainly popular, and at least it's a step away from having all the titles held by guys with histories in major promotions.
 

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The show was pretty good, though I missed the first half. The tag title match was the highlight imo. Just about everything else was solid but not stuff I'll remember in a year's time.


I feel like Darby's kind of like a small skinny Mick Foley. Like, the storyline for Mankind matches, especially later on when he was a face, was always, Mankind is getting the ever-loving shit beat out of him, but he has a lot of heart and keeps coming back for more.
Foley also had the established reputation as someone who (in kayfabe) was a credible threat who could beat you. Darby winning was the right move, but I think that HOW he won is the problem. By getting so little offense in, and by just barely being able to win by pin counter, it seems like more a fluke win than a win earned by skill, strength or guile. I feel like Cody was trying to do the "I was too cocky, ad so I lost" thing but he seemed to want to still come out looking very strong. So if Darby doesn't get some really good title defenses or something along those lines, he's just Rey Mysterio getting jobbed out while being champion.

Also Brandy is cancer, and I resent seeing her on my TV. Watching her take time away from better wrestlers is nauseating, and she moves worse than a three legged turtle crawling through peanut butter.
 
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Foley also had the established reputation as someone who (in kayfabe) was a credible threat who could beat you. Darby winning was the right move, but I think that HOW he won is the problem. By getting so little offense in, and by just barely being able to win by pin counter, it seems like more a fluke win than a win earned by skill, strength or guile. I feel like Cody was trying to do the "I was too cocky, ad so I lost" thing but he seemed to want to still come out looking very strong. So if Darby doesn't get some really good title defenses or something along those lines, he's just Rey Mysterio getting jobbed out while being champion.

Also Brandy is cancer, and I resent seeing her on my TV. Watching her take time away from better wrestlers is nauseating, and she moves worse than a three legged turtle crawling through peanut butter.
I don't think you understand. Every time Brandy is booked strong Cody gets anal.
 

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Nyla vs Shida: 2.5 out of 5. Why the fuck is Shida still champion? She has no feuds, and is never on TV. Put the bet back on Nyla and at least you have a monster heel champ. Finish was also whack, and I think they booked Shida way too strong.
It's called the Women's title.

Kingston has a great promo and air to him but dear god is his gear awful.
 

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the thing with kingston is im pretty sure he's just gonna be a flash in the pan, like what is he gonna go do now? feud with Pac most likely but that has to be be Pac's feud and after that... I'd guess a losing effort for the tnt title and then not much of anything for several months, just like archer just like brody lee and just like the way Cage is going.
 
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It's called the Women's title.

Kingston has a great promo and air to him but dear god is his gear awful.
Kingston is fat, so he is always going to look like a vicious New York Pawnshop owner.

Shida has done nothing for months, has no storylines with anyone, and is just some Japanese girl. The only potential storyline she had was against Nyla, specifically that Nyla only lost because it was a hard core match. Nyla should be getting booked as a genuine monster, but instead she lost super cleanly. I think putting the belt on Nyla would have made more sense, and allowed you to build some other women faces/competitors. Shida is just a big ol Nothingburger, and clearly the company could give less of a shit about the travesty of a women's division they have.
 

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Kingston is fat, so he is always going to look like a vicious New York Pawnshop owner.

Shida has done nothing for months, has no storylines with anyone, and is just some Japanese girl. The only potential storyline she had was against Nyla, specifically that Nyla only lost because it was a hard core match. Nyla should be getting booked as a genuine monster, but instead she lost super cleanly. I think putting the belt on Nyla would have made more sense, and allowed you to build some other women faces/competitors. Shida is just a big ol Nothingburger, and clearly the company could give less of a shit about the travesty of a women's division they have.
Bet you Brandi's going to be a multiple time champ, or have one long uninterrupted reign, by this time next year.
 
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That segment with Cody, Brandi and whoever that other black woman was gave me stronk TNA vibes
 

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Seeing the arguing about Brandi's promo is hilarious. Black people criticizing Brandi for playing into black stereotypes. White people who also share that opinion are being called racist for judging a black woman like that. Meanwhile people who are praising the promo are getting accused to being racist for liking her more when she acts more "black". All the white virtue signalling types are struggling to determine which is the right stance for them to have on twitter.

The answer, of course, is black people aren't a hive-mind and will have different thoughts on it depending on the individual, but these people are too racist to consider that.
 

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