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All I remember her doing in WWE is the Masterlock Challenge and banging Snitsky.

I figure Arturo Ruas has a chance to show up in AEW. He has a legit fighting background and he teamed with Cezar Bononi a few times in NXT.

I always tolerated Marina Shafir because I've harbored an odd crush on her, but now I guess she can either go back to MMA or stay home and take care of Roddy's kid.

 

[Pentex]

On the latest talent massacre:
Now that Vince and his club have determined that AEW is not a legitimate threat, they're going to stop hoarding talent. If you aren't on the road again and Paul isn't speaking up for you, you'd better be careful about picking up your phone.

Most of these releases are 'whatever' but Breeze was a damn lifer. He's been down since FCW. At least he got a cute wife out of working for WWE.

Dain will probably do shots for Impact until his wife leaves WWE so they can back to eeking out a living in the smoldering ruins of BritWres.

 

[DarkSydeBills]

According to wrestlingforum.com, this is the full list of people released:

• A-Kid
• Brian Kendrick
• Jason Jordan
• Robert Roode
• Melina (legend's deal)
• Mark Andrews + Flash Morgan Webster (aka two-thirds of Subculture)
• Xia Brookside
• Joseph Conners
• Tino Sabbatelli (just got confirmed)
• JoJo
• Naomi (alleged release request)
• Simone Johnson (don't know who this is)
• Eddie Dennis
• Dave Mastiff
• Gigi Dolin
• Brendan Vink (don't know who this is)
• Mia Yim
• Keith Lee
• Cora Jade
• Katrina Cortez (don't know who this is)
• Saurav Gurjar (don't know who this is)
• Candy Floss

Not sure if they're all confirmed though.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

According to wrestlingforum.com, this is the full list of people released:

• A-Kid
• Brian Kendrick
• Jason Jordan
• Robert Roode
• Melina (legend's deal)
• Mark Andrews + Flash Morgan Webster (aka two-thirds of Subculture)
• Xia Brookside
• Joseph Conners
• Tino Sabbatelli (just got confirmed)
• JoJo
• Naomi (alleged release request)
• Simone Johnson (don't know who this is)
• Eddie Dennis
• Dave Mastiff
• Gigi Dolin
• Brendan Vink (don't know who this is)
• Mia Yim
• Keith Lee
• Cora Jade
• Katrina Cortez (don't know who this is)
• Saurav Gurjar (don't know who this is)
• Candy Floss

Not sure if they're all confirmed though.

Simone is The Rocks daughter. I wouldn't trust a forums list of releases until there's confirmation from one of the wrestling news sites.

On the latest talent massacre:
Now that Vince and his club have determined that AEW is not a legitimate threat, they're going to stop hoarding talent. If you aren't on the road again and Paul isn't speaking up for you, you'd better be careful about picking up your phone.

Most of these releases are 'whatever' but Breeze was a damn lifer. He's been down since FCW. At least he got a cute wife out of working for WWE.

Dain will probably do shots for Impact until his wife leaves WWE so they can back to eeking out a living in the smoldering ruins of BritWres.

Paul speaking up for you didn't help anyone

 

[DarkSydeBills]

Simone is The Rocks daughter.

I know, I just copy-pasted what the guy wrote.

 

[Old Man Mario]

doublepost because the ref wasnt looking

Aubrey was too busy trying to be noticed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_Out_movement
Do you ever wonder if having an entire movement based on alot of accustations and conjecture hurt Pro Wrestling as a whole? Should people have their lives destroyed over allegations that lead to entire wrestling promotions being shut down?

I'm still mad Chikara shut down

Sucks but at least I don't ever have to hear about Joey Ryan being "an artist" or some horseshit.

Simone is The Rocks daughter.

If Nia Jax has a job, so does Simone. No way they'd keep that one as a favor and not Simone.

In news about Vince's Yes men, "Conrad's Gravy Train" Bruce Pritchard said Cornette came up with putting Steph on tv. Here is Corny's response and the article he refers to.


The person who posted this for Corny cut it weird and I'm too lazy to go get a better shot.

Bruce has also given the credit to JR for giving Rock the 3rd person gimmick, when JR and The Rock stated it was Shitstain Russo.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

So...the one surprise was actually Shafir. Apparently word was she was going to change ring names so creative had plans somewhat down the pipe, but I guess they saw her wrestle.

Everyone else really had nothing going on, and yet Reddit still loses their shit.

EDIT: My guesses to where everyone will land:

Spoiler: Predictions

Breeze - AEW as part of Peter Avalon's crew. I'd actually like to see that.

Dango - maybe with Breeze, maybe NWA, or quite possibly retire from injuries.

Bollywood Boyz - TNA

Ever-Rise - TNA if AEW doesn't scoop them up.

Shafir - MMA please.

Dain - AEW to go up against Strowman or Miro. AEW could use more hosses.

Neese: NJPW or ROH.

Curt Stalion - NJPW as a Jr.

Putting Breeze and maybe even Fandango in with Pretty Peter would give that faction some actual credibility.

Put Dain in with Bear Country for trios.

Ever Rise would be good for either ROH or TNA

Neese ROH

Sadly AEW will probably scoop up the Singh Brothers for their India Expansion, such a waste of money

Tino Sabbatelli is a good match for NWA

Arturo Ruasis a perfect fit for Tazz

Aubrey was too busy trying to be noticed.

Sucks but at least I don't ever have to hear about Joey Ryan being "an artist" or some horseshit.

If Nia Jax has a job, so does Simone. No way they'd keep that one as a favor and not Simone.

In news about Vince's Yes men, "Conrad's Gravy Train" Bruce Pritchard said Cornette came up with putting Steph on tv. Here is Corny's response and the article he refers to.
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The person who posted this for Corny cut it weird and I'm too lazy to go get a better shot.

Bruce has also given the credit to JR for giving Rock the 3rd person gimmick, when JR and The Rock stated it was Shitstain Russo.

Bruce should never be trusted. He's proven that time and time again. Be sure to watch/ listen to his podcast though.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Brian Kendrick

He retired in April and works as a producer.

Robert Roode

He was literally on smackdown 30 minutes ago managing Ziggler against Jimmy uso.

Simone Johnson (don't know who this is)

The Rock's daughter.

 

[captkrisma]

According to wrestlingforum.com, this is the full list of people released:

• A-Kid
• Brian Kendrick
• Jason Jordan
• Robert Roode
• Melina (legend's deal)
• Mark Andrews + Flash Morgan Webster (aka two-thirds of Subculture)
• Xia Brookside
• Joseph Conners
• Tino Sabbatelli (just got confirmed)
• JoJo
• Naomi (alleged release request)
• Simone Johnson (don't know who this is)
• Eddie Dennis
• Dave Mastiff
• Gigi Dolin
• Brendan Vink (don't know who this is)
• Mia Yim
• Keith Lee
• Cora Jade
• Katrina Cortez (don't know who this is)
• Saurav Gurjar (don't know who this is)
• Candy Floss

Not sure if they're all confirmed though.

BIG press X to doubt based on one factor. Melina never signed a contract. That already makes me believe it's bullshit.

 

[Old Man Mario]

Bruce should never be trusted. He's proven that time and time again. Be sure to watch/ listen to his podcast though.

Throw those Hats at me. I will always take the time to tell anyone I fucking hate Conrad. Fatty is going to have to buy from Yokozuna's estate to dress himself at some point.

Paul speaking up for you didn't help anyone

Does anyone at this point think the WWE isn't setting itself up for a sale? Paul's pull won't be around much longer if he hasn't lost it already.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Throw those Hats at me. I will always take the time to tell anyone I fucking hate Conrad. Fatty is going to have to buy from Yokozuna's estate to dress himself at some point.

For a wrestling podcast Conrad isn't bad, but I rather listen to parts of his podcast than the whole thing. That way I get the parts/ stories I want to listen.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Does anyone at this point think the WWE isn't setting itself up for a sale? Paul's pull won't be around much longer if he hasn't lost it already.

Some sources say it's not going for sale. But I think they are just cutting people due to Nick Khan and John Laurinaitis like doing roster cuts. But they should ease on the roster cuts before they end up having 1 person on the roster.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Some sources say it's not going for sale. But I think they are just cutting people due to Nick Khan and John Laurinaitis like doing roster cuts. But they should ease on the roster cuts before they end up having 1 person on the roster.

Agreed. Nick Khan wants to be seen as a guy who increases profit so he keeps his job and his new mansion. Profit looks good to investors but anyone who cares would look for long term gains not short term and short term is what Nick wants. John has always been pro cut so he's all for it. Less people to deal with in his role the better. He's the most anti-person talent relations person I've seen. Pretty sure he got his job because he's just another Yes Man to compliment Vince whenever Vince fucks up.

 

[XYZpdq]

According to wrestlingforum.com, this is the full list of people released:

• A-Kid
• Brian Kendrick
• Jason Jordan
• Robert Roode
• Melina (legend's deal)
• Mark Andrews + Flash Morgan Webster (aka two-thirds of Subculture)
• Xia Brookside
• Joseph Conners
• Tino Sabbatelli (just got confirmed)
• JoJo
• Naomi (alleged release request)
• Simone Johnson (don't know who this is)
• Eddie Dennis
• Dave Mastiff
• Gigi Dolin
• Brendan Vink (don't know who this is)
• Mia Yim
• Keith Lee
• Cora Jade
• Katrina Cortez (don't know who this is)
• Saurav Gurjar (don't know who this is)
• Candy Floss

Not sure if they're all confirmed though.

there's a few on there that were "wait, lolwwe was still fucking paying them"

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Pretty sure he got his job because he's just another Yes Man to compliment Vince whenever Vince fucks up.

And married to the bella's mom.

Jason Jordan

He's one of the lead writers of smackdown.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

there's a few on there that were "wait, lolwwe was still fucking paying them"

There's also Keith Lee who they're fighting to get the trade mark to his real name. Wouldn't look good right now if they did that .

And married to the bella's mom.

Bella's want Total Bellas to die off sooner rather than later. Other than their Legends deal or whatever they have with WWE they don't want a lot to do with the company. So I don't think John was rehired because of them but because of his history in the company.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

there's a few on there that were "wait, lolwwe was still fucking paying them"

I mean, look how long WCW kept Larry Poffo on the books, it definitely wouldn’t be the first time a wrestling promotion forgot they even had someone on payroll.

I’m half convinced that these waves of firings are just several years worth of spring cleaning coming at once, considering how hard Vince was hoarding talent for years. Do I see Vince selling, no, but do I want to pretend I understand half of what Vince’s logic is? Also no...

 

[XYZpdq]

I mean, look how long WCW kept Larry Poffo on the books, it definitely wouldn’t be the first time a wrestling promotion forgot they even had someone on payroll.

I’m half convinced that these waves of firings are just several years worth of spring cleaning coming at once, considering how hard Vince was hoarding talent for years. Do I see Vince selling, no, but do I want to pretend I understand half of what Vince’s logic is? Also no...

oh yeah, no small part of lolwwe's business model for decades has been "deprive other promotions of talent, and maybe find a use for them in the company"

 

[Thiletonomics]

I’m half convinced that these waves of firings are just several years worth of spring cleaning coming at once, considering how hard Vince was hoarding talent for years. Do I see Vince selling, no, but do I want to pretend I understand half of what Vince’s logic is? Also no...

Why do I have the feeling that the waves of firings is so that those that were let go, go to other competition, in hopes that they tank them, leaving WWE alone standing? Or is Vince not at that said Rick and Morty levels of IQ?

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

Why do I have the feeling that the waves of firings is so that those that were let go, go to other competition, in hopes that they tank them, leaving WWE alone standing? Or is Vince not at that said Rick and Morty levels of IQ?

(Insert High IQ Copypasta here)

I doubt it’s any type of 4D Chess, and more one of the bean counters managing to catch Vince in between whatever crazy shit Vince does in his spare time. Sure, WWE is basically printing money with its TV deals and the Saudi deal, but to the executives they can always make more.

Also, per WWE becoming the only game in town again - assuming every other promotion collapsed from overspending, not only would new ones crop up but Impact fucking Wrestling would probably once again cheat death. Seriously, Yandere Simulator would actually be finished before that company dies, its the wrestling nuclear cockroach...