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I doubt it’s any type of 4D Chess, and more one of the bean counters managing to catch Vince in between whatever crazy shit Vince does in his spare time. Sure, WWE is basically printing money with its TV deals and the Saudi deal, but to the executives they can always make more.

Also, per WWE becoming the only game in town again - assuming every other promotion collapsed from overspending, not only would new ones crop up but Impact fucking Wrestling would probably once again cheat death. Seriously, Yandere Simulator would actually be finished before that company dies, its the wrestling nuclear cockroach...
after The Final War there will be some cockroach who scurries into wherever the Impact Zone happens to be, to cut a promo about how he used to work in That Company Up North
 

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Since we're throwing out predictions:

- Tyler Breeze. AEW without a doubt. Not only is he incredibly close with a lot of names in AEW including Cody Rhodes, but he and Shawn Spears run Flatbacks Wrestling School. AEW have already got three schools interlinked with them (Nightmare Factory, Rhodes Wrestling Academy and Dogg Pound Dojo) and having a forth in a different market sector would be wise. Breeze also has a wonderful trait that many wrestlers lack: self-awareness. He's worked the low-end of the card for over 8 years. Whatever role he is assigned, I am sure he'll gladly do it.

- Fandango. During his team partnered with Breeze, he was riddled with injuries. Chris Jericho still seeths to this day about having to put him over at Wrestlemania and that alone would likely stop his entry into AEW. IMPACT already have Johnny Swinger and ROH's current model is to sign the unknown. Unless he fancy's a short stint in NWA, I don't think we'll see him again as an active wrestler. I can see him ending up as a commentator for NXT down the line.

- Ariya Daivari. MLW. Ariya was trained by and worked as Shawn Daivari's brother briefly in his time in WWE. For those who've not been following the MLW product, Shawn Daivari is a now a member of Cobra Unit. Addtionally MLW currently handles it's production within Orlando, Florida; not too far from the WWE performance center. So by all accounts, he's already used to the area and travel associated.

-Tony Nese. IMPACT & NJPW Strong. Nese has pre-established history with IMPACT, but he certainly fits the mould for the sort of talent NJPW has been scouting for it's Strong branch. That said, ROH could also be a solid shout considering the type of performers they've been picking up for the PURE scene. I think Nese is in a comfortable position to consider his choices and make whatever move feels right.

-Ever-Rise. Many here have touted them as good picks for AEW. But considering the bloated and almost directionless nature of the tag-team scene right now thanks to this woeful Bucks/Death Triangle feud, I'd rather they go and make a name for themselves just about anywhere else. Kevin Owens clearly liked them enough. Maybe they can provide a good showcase at the returning PWG show?

- August Grey. He's tall and young. But lacks the reputation others have that I've wrote above. I think you'll see him drift around promotions for a while before he finds himself a home base to rebuild at. I wouldn't be surprised if we randomly see him at a GCW Spring Back event come next year.

- Curt Stallion. Fairly boring look and had an AWFUL promo segment with Manny a while back. Currently injured. However he was formerly apart of ROH (trained by many ex-acts too) and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that is his next destination. That said, NWA are lacking in youth and he might be someone they take a risk with. Wish them the best with the injury tho'

- Arturo Ruas. Almost 40 years old, been at the WWE performance center since 2015. By all accounts, his time in wrestling is over. Open a gym back home or something.

- Marina Shaffir. I know very little about her besides being married to Strong. Apparently she did MMA prior? I've never watched it. Hopefully she finds more success back in that industry.

-The Singh Brothers. Everything about this duo screams "IMPACT diversity hire" considering the long line of Indian acts they've brought in to woo Asian investors. That said, they are a legitimate tag-team double act and would provide a nice bit of depth for both the tag and X-Division. Although I do worry if the injuries sustained in WWE will hinder their desire to return to full-time in-ring action.

-Killian Dain. AEW won't touch this guy. I know some of you in this thread think he'd be a good hoss or whatever, but he was part of the Insiderz podcast and was apart of the infamous episode that caused Kenny to bitch on BTE. Those out of the loop, Dain mocked Omega and The Bucks along with Williams, Manny and Dijakovic. Even claiming that Omega "stole his finisher" tho' that was in my mind, a harmless rib. Much like @The Anger stated, I am in agreement that he'll likely go to ICW. They are in a desperate need of talent. He'd be a big fish in a small pond and can travel when required.
 

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205 Live must be dead now. I feel bad for the guys on there as they were clearly talented and doing their best, but WWE never gave us a single reason to care about it.
Indeed.
Oh, and Ariya Daivari had a post that aged badly. I knew saving Celt's response on /wooo/ would come in handy eventually:
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In other news, one of the top posts on r/squaredcircle: Sasha Banks liking posts about COVID vaccine conspiracy theories on Instagram.
Archive of reddit thread.
https://archive.md/SP3KZ - tweet pointing this out
 

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I just flipped on Dynamite.

Did I just hear JR say "Shiz-nit"??
He hasn't said that in like two decades. I wonder if he's okay. He doesn't have Vince in his ear telling him to say stupid shit.
I do like JRs dig about having great writers.
I can't see how anyone can stand watching wrestling in this Covid mad world
With out the crowd it just comes off as creepy to me
Some works, some doesn't AEW always had some form of crowd. WWE continued to have their mics up on and around their ring so it always sounded terrible without crowds. Some shows were smart to turn down the lights around their ring like ROH and keep the mics low. You really don't notice in Japanese shows as they're usually quiet unless someone does a move they like, then you'll hear them clap.
 
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AEW has really pounded this "Inner Circle Vs. Pinnacle" feud into the ground.

Here's the problem. They've done a Hager/Wardlow MMA match, they are building to FTR/P&P, we got Sammy/MJF next week, and that's all well and good, but shouldn't we have gotten those matches BEFORE the two factions had a War Games match and a Stadium Stampede match?

Once we've seen two massive team battles that include everybody involved, its hard to get invested in the singles matches that should have been used ot build into those bigger matches.
 

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Not a fan of Konnan, but he buried Tully. "You might want to learn Spanish because one day you'll want to communicate with your grandkids". Holy shit.

Of course Audrey ruined the end shot by being right up in the cameras face. When you make Vicky being on camera bearable get the fuck off television.

AEW has really pounded this "Inner Circle Vs. Pinnacle" feud into the ground.

Here's the problem. They've done a Hager/Wardlow MMA match, they are building to FTR/P&P, we got Sammy/MJF next week, and that's all well and good, but shouldn't we have gotten those matches BEFORE the two factions had a War Games match and a Stadium Stampede match?

Once we've seen two massive team battles that include everybody involved, its hard to get invested in the singles matches that should have been used ot build into those bigger matches.
If you take out the Stampede match and do that later it would be better. Have all of these minor fights then do Stampede and end it. This is on par with what WWE does with dragging out feuds. At least they're doing a good job of building up Sammy as a babyface. Fans love the guy, doesn't matter what he does. So just make him Face and have him as another Main Face of the company. He's another guy who can inspire kids to follow their dreams, he did after all.

Good to see Boulder back, that shot he took from Dreamer back in April couldn't have been that bad.

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205 Live must be dead now. I feel bad for the guys on there as they were clearly talented and doing their best, but WWE never gave us a single reason to care about it.

The problem with a Cruiserweight Division in today's day and age is that it makes almost no sense to have one.

When you look at guys like Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, Adam Cole, Finn Balor, Johnny Gargano, Kofi Kingston, Rey Mysterio, and the like competing for the main event belts of their respective brands, then the Cruiserweights have very little to offer that is different.

Compare that to 97 WCW. When you main events are loaded with guys like Hollywood Hogan, Lex Luger, The Giant, DDP, Randy Savage, Ric Flair, and Sting, then having a bunch of smaller & faster high flyers in their own separate division seems amazing. They offered something different from what you would see in the main events.

But when the level of athleticism, smaller size, high flying moves that you see from the Cruiserweights is being featured in the main events as well, then a separate division just doesn't seem as special. There just isn't enough speciality to build a brand there.

The influx of Cruiserweight Talents is the perfect example of "Be careful what you wish for". Now we have more high flyers and more CWs than anybody knows what to do with and they are way less special now than they were back in 97 as they've essentially become normal and somewhat mundane.

I've heard some AEW fans say they'd like to see a CW division in that company, but why? The last two World title matches alone featured PAC, Jungle Boy, and Orange Cassidy, all of whom are at that CW size, and Darby Allin is the longest reigning TNT champ, and MJF is one of the top heels. CWs and high flyers kind of run wrestling now across the board.

Honestly, big as fuck heavyweights are becoming more appealing to me because they are so much more rare now than they were back in the 80s and 90s. A guy like Omos made an impression to me at Wrestlemania just by being big and beating the fuck out of people.
 

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Trying to confirm if Bunny got hurt or not by Kris Botchlander.

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She continues botching by having too much weight on that bad knee. Here's a clip of the incident from tonight.
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Is AEW Botches overreacting here or do you think she got hurt?
Maybe? The head wasn't tucked in as much, but the whole match was filled with botches by both women. I said it before, Kris needs a different move until she's fully healed or more confident to be on that leg. You can tell by the way she carries herself she isn't.
 

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Is AEW Botches overreacting here or do you think she got hurt?
Bunny has fairly long hair, so it's hard to tell if her dome hit the mat hard or if was a well-tucked placement. I think the account is reaching a little, partly due to the rapid rate of botches from Kris lately. She needs to really rethink her training and in turn, her move-set. Can't be doing stuff this dynamic without the confidence, as @Anonymus Fluhre stated above.
 

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Bunny has fairly long hair, so it's hard to tell if her dome hit the mat hard or if was a well-tucked placement. I think the account is reaching a little, partly due to the rapid rate of botches from Kris lately. She needs to really rethink her training and in turn, her move-set. Can't be doing stuff this dynamic without the confidence, as @Anonymus Fluhre stated above.
If she still wants to do a piledriver she can land backwards on her ass. It would be safer for both her and her opponent Her package piledriver is going to Stone Cold someone. Her opponents should be asking her if she can the piledriver still so they have a reason to not wrestle her when she botches the move. So should the coaches backstage. They're obviously not doing their jobs.
 

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