General Wrestling Discussion -

[WhimsicalTrolli]

I can see both of botches over-reacting and kris needs to change her moveset. Trent and Ricky is already on the shelf due to neck injures so they should be careful because spinal stenosis is no joke.

Have all of these minor fights then do Stampede and end it.

Agreed but they should've done the matches like Sammy vs Shawn, FTRvs Pride and Powerful, Hager vs Warlow and then blood and guts and have mjf and Jericho end the fued as the rubber match.

So should the coaches backstage. They're obviously not doing their jobs.

It's frustrating that they have people like Jerry Lynn, Dean Malenko and many other legends not coaching the wrestlers but they have the "Nightmare Factory" training these people.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

It's frustrating that they have people like Jerry Lynn, Dean Malenko and many other legends not coaching the wrestlers but they have the "Nightmare Factory" training these people.

It's going to be a nightmare when they're taken to court over injuries or even death. They don't have the same backing as the WWE has to make problems go away.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

It's going to be a nightmare when they're taken to court over injuries or even death. They don't have the same backing as the WWE has to make problems go away.

Unfortunately, when you bring up concerns about injuries aew fans bring up owen hart for some reason. Injuries will happen sure, but having potentially 3 people on the shelf for a neck injury in a month span is concerning. I doubt a death will happen but a crippling injury or early retirement to avoid crippling could happen, but I am curious how Kenny will finish his championship match with Christian since the one winged angel is an electric chair packaged muscle buster and I know the v triggers on the head isn't going to do any favors.

 

[captkrisma]

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Is AEW Botches overreacting here or do you think she got hurt?

It looked "safe" to me. Close, but safe.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Unfortunately, when you bring up concerns about injuries aew fans bring up owen hart for some reason. Injuries will happen sure, but having potentially 3 people on the shelf for a neck injury in a month span is concerning. I doubt a death will happen but a crippling injury or early retirement to avoid crippling could happen, but I am curious how Kenny will finish his championship match with Christian since the one winged angel is an electric chair packaged muscle buster and I know the v triggers on the head isn't going to do any favors.

Trent has had an issue for a long time, well before joining AEW so you really can't count him. Christians only neck injuries were kayfabe story ones for the WWE, people tend to have their head rest on his (Kenny's) thigh when they land from the OWA. His issue will be knee strikes but Kenny is pretty good with those. Often times when he does it against someone on the ropes he hits them just above his knee where there's more flesh. Unless Kenny's injuries catch up to him by the time him and Cage have their match Cage should be safe in the ring with him unless he tries doing something his body can't handle but wants to please the fans.

 

[trent]

Never really heard much about Omega being unsafe. The OWA might look like death but it's very tucked and he never attempts it on anyone who is too big to safely lift. The snap dragon he does has him taking the impact on his shoulders. The V Trigger looks good because he puts a lot of flourish on it but there is fuck all impact unless his opponent wants him to make it stiff for effect.

As for Statlander, she has clearly come back a few weeks/months too early. She isn't moving as well as she used to and even though i don't think she injured Bunny, it was way too close to being dangerous.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Christians only neck injuries were kayfabe story ones for the WWE,

He had concussion issues, not neck ones.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I've heard some AEW fans say they'd like to see a CW division in that company, but why? The last two World title matches alone featured PAC, Jungle Boy, and Orange Cassidy, all of whom are at that CW size, and Darby Allin is the longest reigning TNT champ, and MJF is one of the top heels. CWs and high flyers kind of run wrestling now across the board.

90% of AEW's roster is cruiserweight already. Wardlow, Luchasaurus, Sting, Hager, Cage and maybe Jericho are the only ones who wouldn't be a classic cruiserweight that I can think of off the top of my head (not counting Big Show and Henry since they're commentators).

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

90% of AEW's roster is cruiserweight already. Wardlow, Luchasaurus, Sting, Hager, Cage and maybe Jericho are the only ones who wouldn't be a classic cruiserweight that I can think of off the top of my head (not counting Big Show and Henry since they're commentators).

Kaz, he looks a lot different from his X-Division days and doesn't as much high flying as he used to. Bear Mountain, FTR, Christian Cage (He can't move around as well as he used to), Butcher and the Blade, Miro, Colt Cabana, Trent if he's ever able to get back into wrestling, Billy Gunn, Evil Uno, Dustin, Eddie, Lance, Jon Moxley as he is now, Luther, Nick Comoratto, QT Marshall (would take a miracle for him to be a cruiserweight), 10, Brock Anderson, Hobbs, Shawn Spears, Griff Garrison, Cezar Bononi, JD Drake. (Don't bother going to AEW's page to look up wrestlers, they still have Brodie Lee listed)

So yeah, no where near 90% More like a 50/50 split.

 

[Old Man Mario]

Well gang, looks like the better of the two sons of the American Dream got some choice responses today on Twitter.
Here's Dustin's original tweet

And here's some of those choice responses to him



I know I'm out here shitting on both promotions and having a good time doing it. I don't want anyone hurt. I want great wrestling.

I think some of these younger folks are going in and trying moonsaults the first day and the trainers are letting them.