Generation Z - Is there something different about this generation?

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Fixed that for you.

Gen Z is actually a very fragmented generation culturally and politically, with the Early Zoomers (1997-2000) being largely turbo-woke gender-sped socialists like the Late Millennials who came directly before them while the Core Zoomers (who are high school juniors and seniors at their youngest and are just now entering adulthood for the most part) tend to be either moderately liberal (AKA centrist) or more likely downright apolitical as a whole (similar to Gen X) although the younger end of the Core Zoomers are trending slightly rightward (I'd imagine those born in 2002-2003 and are preparing to graduate have probably been "redpilled" by the shitshow of a year that is 2020)

The Late Zoomers are largely middle schoolers and high school underclassmen who actually are trending rightward as a whole.

A lot of people think Gen Z is a left-wing generation entirely because of the Early Zoomers who were born in the late 90's, and they overlap heavily with the Late Millennials who tend to trend far to the left, even when compared to other Millennials. The main reason is because they largely had a similar childhood as their Late Millennial siblings and compatriots, and trended far left for largely the same reasons as the Millennials did.

I'm a Late Millennial (born in the early 90's) and I've noticed the Early Zoomers are just more woke and pretentious versions of Late Millennials, but the Core Zoomers I've known IRL and online are nothing like the Early Zoomers and Late Millennials.

@-4ZURE- is actually pretty spot-on in this assessment and can back up a lot of this, and would probably know more about it than even I do.

Like I said, Gen Z is the most culturally fragmented of the generations currently alive today
Okay, hold up. High school juniors and seniors are the oldest core zoomers. Early Z is 1997-01, Core is 2002-06/07, and Late is 2006/07-12. Are you saying generation z only spans nine years?

As I said before, I was born in late 1999. I've noticed that there's a very gradual shift from center-left to centrist/apolitical over 1997-01, but as soon as it hits 2002 the shift is greatly accelerated.

If someone tries bringing up politics in a general group of people my age, they'd usually get told to shut up and that nobody cares. Talking about politics in general seems way more socially acceptable for those born 2002 onwards.
 
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Just a zoomer stopping by to say my piece. I'm early gen zoomer 97-01, and I know lots of zoomers. Now granted, I've always grown up in conservative areas, but I feel most of my peers are more right leaning, or at the very least anti-SJW. I will agree older zoomers like myself are the least right-leaning, but my little brother and his friend group are all pretty right-leaning.

I'll also say a lot of us are doomers. A lot of my friends don't feel like there is any hope for the world and have kind of given up, including one of my best friends. It's sad, and it's one of the main reason I personally became so right-leaning after I was exposed to gamergate. I'm afraid of what's going to happen if there isn't a pendulum swing.
 

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Okay, hold up. High school juniors and seniors are the oldest core zoomers. Early Z is 1997-01, Core is 2002-06/07, and Late is 2006/07-12. Are you saying generation z only spans nine years?

As I said before, I was born in late 1999. I've noticed that there's a very gradual shift from center-left to centrist/apolitical over 1997-01, but as soon as it hits 2002 the shift is greatly accelerated.

If someone tries bringing up politics in a general group of people my age, they'd usually get told to shut up and that nobody cares. Talking about politics in general seems way more socially acceptable for those born 2002 onwards.
I'll admit, my math is a bit screwed up but the point does stand that Gen Z is a very fragmented generation, moreso than any other alive now.

I think a lot of people see what they want to see in Zoomers.
This is true, and the fact the sub-divisions in Gen Z are a lot more stark than previous ones is one of the biggest reasons why that is.
 
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I'm starting to think the WuFlu will be a defining moment for the new generation. They've not had a real (nationwide) disaster yet. It all hinges on how they take it.
Something I've not seen pointed out.... Zoomers are the most conservative generation AT THIS AGE we've ever seen. They're still left, but not nearly as much as Millennials were at that age, nor X'ers, nor even Boomers. Does this mean they'll turn out conservative, or has there been a fundamental change in how people develop politically?
Social media is a thing. Generational events are hard to come by due to the social media bubbles.... And you're much more likely to SAY you're conservative when the liberals look completely nuts like they do now.
 

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I don't know how to feel about the fact I was the first Gen Zyklone faggot to join this forum way back in the day.
most kids my age back then were mostly apolitical or basic left wing feelgood stuff and rights for all, now most of the women are ACAB mask touting anti Trumpers or whatever. I have noticed that alot of the younger zoomers (those who graduated a bit before I did and now) tend to be more right leaning and hate SJWs for being "cringe" and cesnoring the things they like, the only exception I know is this former coworker of mine who was a mini Big Red who would wear pride flag pins all over her uniform and be proud that she drunk her self to sleep on Drumpf's election day.
I'm just glad that I'm not as ideologically alone as I was 7 years ago.
 

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I noticed that when it comes to zoomers, they would lean a bit left and share some core millennial views, but are more likely to be tolerant of different points of views than the millennials. Probably because we're just tired of all the emotional dopamine-minded millennials on social media obsessing about outrage and that jazz. Maybe being the generation that grew up with the digital age, grew out of the dopamine hits of a text.
 

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So what’s the cutoff date between late millennials and early zoomers
I want to say late 96 since that's where people like me lie where I'm either a millenial or GenZ depending on who you ask, those in that sweetspot are GenZed or Millenial by their mentality at that point.
 

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I'll also say a lot of us are doomers. A lot of my friends don't feel like there is any hope for the world and have kind of given up, including one of my best friends. It's sad, and it's one of the main reason I personally became so right-leaning after I was exposed to gamergate. I'm afraid of what's going to happen if there isn't a pendulum swing.
You know what? That actually is something consistent between me and all my friends; Yeah, regardless of personal politics there is a real fear there.

Hell, even between Random Zoomers I've seen them agree on almost nothing but instantly agree the future is fucked, even if they agreeing on that for different reasons.
 

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You know what? That actually is something consistent between me and all my friends; Yeah, regardless of personal politics there is a real fear there.

Hell, even between Random Zoomers I've seen them agree on almost nothing but instantly agree the future is fucked, even if they agreeing on that for different reasons.
Wait, what? I thought you were like 50, lol.
 

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I don't believe for a moment zoomers are majority more right wing and i believe even less they are more conservative , only a fraction of (mostly males ) zoomers who are disenfranchized flook to the online far right niches where they get blended in with a bunch of facebook boomers to the point both are indistinguishable.

Millenials get a reputation for being lefties. sure, socially millenials are just as liberal as gen x but zoomers actually made the full leap into no ironical marxism-leninism and are adopting that dialectic in every aspect of life and thats more and more getting settled as the mainstream. Even the online far right types want to abolish capitalism and form some utopic national socialist totalitarian statist system and thats not really a counter for communist that want to do just that, is the same goal with different dressing. End result is they want some daddy goverment to come be their messiah as insecure people with weak character and victim complexes are prone to do when their worldview becomes a feedback loop of learned helplessness.
 
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You know what? That actually is something consistent between me and all my friends; Yeah, regardless of personal politics there is a real fear there.

Hell, even between Random Zoomers I've seen them agree on almost nothing but instantly agree the future is fucked, even if they agreeing on that for different reasons.
Yeah, that's the crazy part actually. Not trying sound naive here or anything, but the cynicism among zoomers is pretty overwhelming. Then again, almost everyone is a cynic in some ways. Your personal life may look bright, but one wouldn't see the same for the world as whole. Although that attitude has been kind of prevalent since the dawn of civilization.
 

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how many zoomers are going to start Riding With Biden if TikTok gets banned

Shitposts aside lots of Zoomers are going to be heavily disillusioned by politics especially this election cycle—especially if they are more leftist. They may hate Trump, but they hate Biden too (which is only going to be worsened if the VP pick is Kamala because that'll be seen as spitting in BLM's face) and they don't see a reason to VoteBlueNoMatterWho, unlike many of the lefty Millennials, some of who've been putting out some cope about why voting Biden isn't compromising their ideals.

As for what'll happen as a result of that we really can't say, not when 2020 happenings are still going on and their fallout is going to cause major changes to the entire world.
 

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How will Generation Z and some from the Sid Alpha Generation feel when President Trump and Mike Pompeo finally ban TikTok from all platforms?
A few ways I guess
  • They used it and are pissed
  • They don't use it and laugh because they read a headline somewhere that said Trump got owned by them and this is clearly sad damage control
  • They don't use it and they don't care either way
  • "Does this really matter? The world is fucked regardless and this is all theater"
Hell if I know which is a more popular sentiment, my generation is completely isolated from each other and we seem to just gravitate to our own ideological brethren; Which is why everyone seem to see everything they want to see in them (all my friends are SJWs like me, we are the future; all my friends are reactionary like me, we are the future; all my friends are libertarians like me, we are the future; etc.)
 

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Hell if I know which is a more popular sentiment, my generation is completely isolated from each other and we seem to just gravitate to our own ideological brethren; Which is why everyone seem to see everything they want to see in them (all my friends are SJWs like me, we are the future; all my friends are reactionary like me, we are the future; all my friends are libertarians like me, we are the future; etc.)
Yeah it's hard to characterize Gen Z specifically because people in this generation grew up online in a lot of cases. Online it's easier than ever to form communities based only on shared interest and completely disregard age.
 

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I don't believe for a moment zoomers are majority more right wing and i believe even less they are more conservative , only a fraction of (mostly males ) zoomers who are disenfranchized flook to the online far right niches where they get blended in with a bunch of facebook boomers to the point both are indistinguishable.

Millenials get a reputation for being lefties. sure, socially millenials are just as liberal as gen x but zoomers actually made the full leap into no ironical marxism-leninism and are adopting that dialectic in every aspect of life and thats more and more getting settled as the mainstream. Even the online far right types want to abolish capitalism and form some utopic national socialist totalitarian statist system and thats not really a counter for communist that want to do just that, is the same goal with different dressing. End result is they want some daddy goverment to come be their messiah as insecure people with weak character and victim complexes are prone to do when their worldview becomes a feedback loop of learned helplessness.
See, this is where the generational sub-divisions set in.

The Early Zoomers (1997-2001 or so) and the Late Millennials (1990-1995) are both extremely left as an overall trend, especially among females. But then you get the younger Zoomers and they are a lot less leftist than the older Zoomers or the Late Millennials and they tend to trend liberal moderate, "South Park conservative", or more often, mostly apolitical (but also kinda anti-SJW) and they all have this cynical doomer view, the one thing they truly share with the ultra-woke Early Zoomers and Late Millennials.

Core Millennials tend to lean very left and were more or less the first major SJW leaders in the early 2010's, with the Late Millennials being hyper-woke communists.

Early Millennials (AKA the Xennials) who were born in the early-to-mid 80's tend to be a lot like Gen X in their mindset, but more liberal overall

2020 has been a mess of a year, and I think it's going to get a lot of the Core Millennials to wind up right-leaning or centrist-leaning overall thanks to the left's insanity. The lockdowns, the black supremacist and anarcho-communist thuggery of BLM and Antifa, and the economic chaos are going to "redpill" an entire major segment generation to one degree or another. Gen Z as a whole are pretty blackpilled to begin with, something that is found among the right-wing and apolitical Zoomers and the ultra-leftist Early Zoomers as a whole.

If the pendulum swings back against this shit in the 2020's and 2030's, what are the odds that the Millennials will wind up being every bit as hated, reviled, and vilified as the Boomers are today? I think a lot of the Early Zoomers will likely get lumped in with the Late Millennials and Core Millennials in retrospective, sort of like how many of the Early Gen X'ers born in the mid-1960's tend to be lumped in with the Baby Boomers in terms of how they're stereotyped and viewed in retrospect.
 
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If the pendulum swings back against this shit in the 2020's and 2030's,
Thats the biggest mistake people make, assuming the pendulun will swing right. No, Trump is as further right the pendulum will swing and zionist orange man might even win again but the boomers that elected him will keep dying, gen xers keep retiring and the generation after zoomers will start voting. The pendulung will swing alright but more radically towards the left than ever before, mark my words. Right now the left is too divided between traditional liberals and new wave commies and woke zoomerdom, after the next generational shift such divide won't exist no more, it will all be one giant gibsmedat along with a large change in demographics making those disenfranchized "redpilled" males even more of a niche and a minority.