Geopolitical Double Standards: South African Apartheid and Nelson Mandela -

[Iwasamwillbe]

Why is it that when South Africa was enforcing apartheid legislation, the whole world (and certainly the United Nations) seemingly banded together to overturn apartheid, yet when Nelson Mandela (more than likely) engaged in communist and racially-based terrorism, leaving his nation an absolute dumpster fire, none of these same nations and organizations seemingly raised so much as a peep in protest, or were even curious enough to go investigate this for themselves?

 

[Franjevina]

Because western countries and white people became cucks long time ago .

Also it's in interest of certain group of (((People))) to destroy entire western civilization ,Apartheid South Africa included .

 

[Imperialist #348]

because people now more than ever dont like looking at the full picture or atleast another perspective with most things, mandela being a great example.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

You could also look into why African warlords were paid to wipe out Rhodesia after they told the UK/EU to go away.

 

[Thank Fuck For Evil Otto]

The Citizen, a major English-language newspaper, reminded South Africans (Feb. 12) why Nelson Mandela went to prison in 1963. The Rivonia Trial, at which he and other leading ANC terrorists were convicted, drew little notice for several months but "in the end ... became a national cause celebre." Mandela's militant faction, Spear of the Nation, had acquired three houses -- one, near Krugersdorp, to be used as an arsenal and weapons factory.

The trial took its name from Rivonia, a rural district just outside Johannesburg, where the ANC owned an impressive-looking house on the Lilliesleaf farm. It was there, on July 11, 1963, that the security police launched a raid from a laundry van, netting a pile of incriminating documents. One listed the group's "production requirements" as "48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices for bombs, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate, 21.6 tons of aluminum powder and 15 tons of black powder." There were also plans for making hand grenades.

Convicted along with Mandela were Walter Sisulu, several other nonwhites and two gentlemen named Dennis Goldberg and Lionel Bernstein. Acquitted was one James Cantor. As The Citizen explained, Two other men who were also arrested, Arthur Goldreich, lessee of the farm, and James Cantor's legal partner and brother-in-law, Harold Wolpe, dramatically escaped from the Johannesburg Fort after bribing a young warden. One more, Bob Hepple, who offered to turn State witness, was released on bail and fled the country.

From the stand, Mandela denied that his struggle was "under the influence of foreigners and Communists." More credibly, he admitted that, in 1961, "after a long and anxious assessment of the South African
situation, I and some colleagues" decided to embark on violent forms of opposition.

Nelson Mandela's jewish handlers crafted his ascension just like they crafted his terrorist activities, and the jewish press, with a global propaganda campaign, enabled his placement into power. Are you asking why the jewish press didnt bemoan the jewish takeover plans for South Africa and the resultant genocide of the races of people whom they consider their sworn enemies? Why weren't jewish vassal states more vocal in rejecting a jewish victory? Sheeit.

Successful white nations are bad for jews - any strong, unified populace smart enough to reject jewish domination is, of course, bad for jews. Its always the same story.

From Instauration magazine, 1990:

It is not difficult to imagine how most Scandinavian and other European television viewers reacted to the sight of Mandela addressing the massed assembly on the Grand Parade. Had they not seen with their own television eyes how brutally the blacks were pummelled by the fascist police merely for requesting fair treatment? Of course they had, just as they had seen the German extermination camps, complete with gas chambers and burning pits. Most people, unfortunately, see with their indoctrinated minds rather than with their eyes. How many Europeans realize that the black man is no more a native of South Africa than of North Africa, and that there were no blacks in Cape Town until after WWII? How many Europeans know that blacks are the invaders of South Africa, not the whites? Admittedly, Europeans and Americans cannot be blamed for not knowing that there is no word for freedom in any African language, but they ought to know that what the blacks are now claiming for themselves was a savage wilderness until the white man arrived. They must also know that,
when the white man departs from the African lands he developed, back comes the wilderness!

The worldwide white rejoicing at Mandela's release can only be described as a form of hysteria, much like the dancing manias of the Middle Ages. Paradoxically, the most horrible thing we could do to the blacks is to give them the freedom they demand. To destroy them and guarantee our own survival, we need do nothing more than wave them goodbye.

Its funny and sad reading how instrumental Sweden was in furnishing the destruction of South Africa, as they am become South Africa. Any nation that accepts and cooperates with jews gets jewed. Hard lesson to learn.

 

[Syaoran Li]

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Nelson Mandela's jewish handlers crafted his ascension just like they crafted his terrorist activities, and the jewish press, with a global propaganda campaign, enabled his placement into power. Are you asking why the jewish press didnt bemoan the jewish takeover plans for South Africa and the resultant genocide of the races of people whom they consider their sworn enemies? Why weren't jewish vassal states more vocal in rejecting a jewish victory? Sheeit.

Successful white nations are bad for jews - any strong, unified populace smart enough to reject jewish domination is, of course, bad for jews. Its always the same story.

From Instauration magazine, 1990:


Its funny and sad reading how instrumental Sweden was in furnishing the destruction of South Africa, as they am become South Africa. Any nation that accepts and cooperates with jews gets jewed. Hard lesson to learn.

You can save everyone a lot of time if you just post this clip.

 

[Thank Fuck For Evil Otto]

You can save everyone a lot of time if you just post this clip.

Imagine posting a clip of a jewish show from a jewish propaganda outlet making the claim that people baselessly blame the jews for silly things, despite hundreds of years of evidence chronicaling the [predictable] ministrations of Jewry - and despite the solid, indisputable evidence that Nelson Mandela and the bolshevik revolution in South Africa was entirely jewish in origin and run by jews throughout for like 60-70 years.



Fascinating fact: At that time NBC, Seinfeld's home network, was run by jewish Andrew Lack. In 2015, after nearly 40 years for various jewish propaganda outlets, he became the first CEO to the US government agency Broadcasting Board of Governors, where he immediately spearheaded campaigns against Russia and its media. Ones that would be used as part of the new Red Scare, which as we have all seen, is 100% bunkum, totally manufactured propaganda meant to distract and disenfranchise people from reality.

- The Unz Review

Washington has appointed Andrew Lack, the former president of NBC News, to be the chief executive of the Broadcasting Board of Governors. His first official statement compared RT, Russia Today, the Russian-based news agency, with the Islamic State and Boko Haram. In other words, Mr. Lack brands RT as a terrorist organization.

The situation is deteriorating, not improving. The Russians, hoping for some sign of intelligence in Europe, contradict Washington’s anti-Russian lies. Washington calls truthful contradiction of its own propaganda to be Russian propaganda. Washington has ordered the Broadcasting Board of Governors, a US government agency, headed by Andrew Lack, a former chairman of NBC news, to counteract an alleged, but non-existent, “Kremlin Troll Army” that is outshouting the Western prostitutes and “perpetuating a pro-Russian dialogue” on the Internet. In case you don’t remember, Lack is the idiot who declared RT to be a “terrorist organization.” In other words, in Lack’s opinion, one that he can enforce, a truth-teller is a terrorist.

Lack epitomizes well Washington’s view of truthful reporting: If it doesn’t serve Washington’s propaganda, it is not true. It is terrorism.

Lack hopes to control RT with intimidation: In effect, he has told RT to shut up and say what we want or we will close you down as a terrorist organization. We might even arrest your American employees as aiders and abettors of terrorism.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Well when the Nazis come up with some entertainment as good as Seinfeld I might be interested in what they have to say

 

[Syaoran Li]

Imagine posting a clip of a jewish show from a jewish propaganda outlet making the claim that people baselessly blame the jews for silly things, despite hundreds of years of evidence chronicaling the [predictable] ministrations of Jewry - and despite the solid, indisputable evidence that Nelson Mandela and the bolshevik revolution in South Africa was entirely jewish in origin and run by jews throughout for like 60-70 years.

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Fascinating fact: At that time NBC, Seinfeld's home network, was run by jewish Andrew Lack. In 2015, after nearly 40 years for various jewish propaganda outlets, he became the first CEO to the US government agency Broadcasting Board of Governors, where he immediately spearheaded campaigns against Russia and its media. Ones that would be used as part of the new Red Scare, which as we have all seen, is 100% bunkum, totally manufactured propaganda meant to distract and disenfranchise people from reality.

- The Unz Review

How is Seinfeld "Jewish propaganda"? It's an apolitical sitcom from the 90's for fuck's sake.

Do you even know any Jews? I'm not sure if you realize this, but Jewish people are not a hivemind.

You're a nutcase who blames the Jews for everything wrong in history, be it the Bolshevik Revolution (which killed more Jews than even the worst Tsarist pogroms) or Fox cancelling Futurama. You could stub your toe on a bedpost and think it was the result of international Jewry.

This is insane even by /pol/ tard standards. Either quit LARP'ing or get some professional help.

 

[Thank Fuck For Evil Otto]

How is Seinfeld "Jewish propaganda"? It's an apolitical sitcom from the 90's for fuck's sake.

How? By promoting the same claim that you're making: that people airing grievances over the struggle for jewish global domination, which is literally the history of the world for hundreds of years, are somehow nitpicking lunatics. "You'd blame a stubbed toe on jewry! hee hee hee." Do you have anything useful to add to thread, anything relevant?

Do you even know any Jews? I'm not sure if you realize this, but Jewish people are not a hivemind.

Not all jews! Yeah, no shit. Not all jews are responsible everything global jewry does, but that does not mean that we cannot talk about the actions of the literally wholly jewish cliques who dominate finance, governance, and propaganda (internet, print, entertainment) for the furtherance of jewish interests.

You cannot dispute that the bolshevik revolution in South Africa was jewish in origin, financed and operated by jews, for the furtherance of jewish interests. You cannot deny that the jewish press elevated the Nelson Mandela to the height of a demigod for the furtherance of jewish interests, despite him being a horrifying terrorist (also peep his ex-wife, who was a friggin' monster for real).

If I were to say, whoa, those Chinese sure do such and such, nobody bats an eye, but name the jew and everybody flips out. Did you know the Chinese are doing this and that at some place in furtherance of Chinese interests? Did you know that the Russians did that one thing in furtherance of Russian interests, with spies in numerous western nations? HOLD ON THERE! I know a Chinese/Russian guy named Ted who claims he did not consent to that and actually had no knowledge of it. Boom! So there.

There is nothing wrong about naming Chinese or Russian or whomever cliques that are acting in the interests of their people, but naming jewish cliques acting in the interest of their people sets off a mental trigger that drives tards like you out of the woodwork to spout the same tired stock ejaculations.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Or, just maybe, apartheid South Africa was a horrible place to live for all but the elite minority, and obviously 80% of the population is gonna take being treated like shit cause their skin is too dark forever

None of that justifies atrocities against white farmers and such now, of course, but to act like being against apartheid is some Jewish sorcery is retarded

 

[millais]

The American and Western European bloc (aka the West) found the South African sanctions a very easy virtue-signalling issue from which they could proclaim moral superiority in the face of Soviet accusations of racism and colonialism. Before the South African sanctions, the Soviets were always able to shit all over the West's claims to moral superiority by pointing at American racism and European colonialism, both of which were superficially duplicated in the South African situation.

But Carter and Reagan's State Departments and CIA knew that South Africa was an indispensable bulwark against communism in the Southern African subcontinent, so up until the Cubans and Soviets were almost booted out of Angola, they kept supplying arms and limited diplomatic support to the South Africans.

When the State Department pulled support, it was due to the calculus of realpolitik. The South Africans had by then contained the Angolan situation, and the propaganda benefit of going back to virtue signalling sanctions outweighed the risk of further strengthening of the communist hold over Southern Africa.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Before the South African sanctions, the Soviets were always able to shit all over the West's claims to moral superiority by pointing at American racism and European colonialism

Even though the Soviets were themselves racist and colonialist.

Unless you want to claim that the Holodomor was fake and that those expansions into Central Asia and the Balkans were just natural happenstances.

But Carter and Reagan's State Departments and CIA knew that South Africa was an indispensable bulwark against communism in the Southern African subcontinent, so up until the Cubans and Soviets were almost booted out of Angola, they kept supplying arms and limited diplomatic support to the South Africans.

When the State Department pulled support, it was due to the calculus of realpolitik. The South Africans had by then contained the Angolan situation, and the propaganda benefit of going back to virtue signalling sanctions outweighed the risk of further strengthening of the communist hold over Southern Africa.

If South Africa was an "indispensable bulwark" against communism, how did communism get a hold there?

 

[millais]

Even though the Soviets were themselves racist and colonialist.

Unless you want to claim that the Holodomor was fake and that those expansions into Central Asia and the Balkans were just natural happenstances.

If South Africa was an "indispensable bulwark" against communism, how did communism get a hold there?

I never said the Soviets were not racist and did not have colonial aspirations. But they were able to effectively damage Western credibility in the eyes of the Third World, Non-Aligned states by pointing out the moral hypocrisies of Western racism and colonialism.

Communism in SA dates all the way back to the influx of poor British mine workers who imported the British Labour movement to SA during the late 19th century. The communist Rand Rebellion of 1920 was organized and perpetrated by predominantly British immigrant miners, whose slogan was "Workers of the World Unite for a White South Africa". They were rebelling against the importation of Chinese and African skilled mine labor, which tanked wages for white miners and limited the number of positions as well. However, after the Union government crushed the rebellion at gunpoint, the predominantly Jewish Communist Party of South Africa opted to split from the British Labour movement of the miners and reorient their activities towards supporting the anti-colonial, African nationalist movement, which included Mandela's ANC.

What I meant by SA being an indispensable bulwark against communism in Southern Africa is that the Soviet-aligned African states were on the verge of bringing the entire subcontinent under their control during the 1970s. After the fall of Mozambique, Rhodesia, and Angola, only SA was still left in the hands of an anti-communist government. It was always in the strategic interest of America and the West that the Cape Sea Route did not fall into Soviet hands.

 

[Emperor Julian]

so.....what are we retroactively trying downplay or justify here?

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

so.....what are we retroactively trying downplay or justify here?

"Downplay or justify" what? Apartheid, Nelson Mandela's communist ideology, the Soviets?

 

[Emperor Julian]

"Downplay or justify" what? Apartheid, Nelson Mandela's communist ideology, the Soviets?

Apartheid I suspect? It was a pretty repulsive regime with no real redeeming features and it can only really find any validation from mudying the water with everyone else. It's not exactly a shocker Mandela had a darker side unless you're not particularly well read.
I'm not that interested in African politics so maybe I'm missing something?

the answer to why Mandela is quite well liked is pretty simple. People like nice stories rather than complex ones and most people were (correctly) happy to see Apartheid go. I don't really think their's much more to it than that.

 

[millais]

so.....what are we retroactively trying downplay or justify here?

 

[Dom Cruise]

To be fair it seemed like Mandela at least tried to bridge the gap between blacks and whites in South Africa and it's only after his death has the country really been backsliding.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Isn't this the whole sjw reasoning, though? If someone doesn't have a perfect past, they're automatically cancelled? South Africa under Apartheid was an ugly place, and let's face it: if you were living there, what would you do? "Please sir, can I have my freedom now? Okay, I'll wait until later."