Given how firmly entrenched SJW shit is in academia, how do us non-SJWs counter the obvious comparison to creationists? -

remiem

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Don't pay money to go into a social science based schooling or 'higher education' that's infested.

Go do a trade. You make good money, have lots of upward mobility, have the ability to fix common household issues depending on what you do, can start your own business, you can work almost anywhere and can increase your certification to further increase your pay. Best of all it doesn't matter if you're boy, girl, or ambiguous gendered blob there's no room for social discussion when you're learning plumbing, electrical schematics, heavy equipment, etc etc. It's cut and dry to following the manual. Your feelings will not change the way you wire or route or drive.

IMO. In regards to the topic question I don't think there's a proper answer. A lot of the problem with SJW(s) is that their minds are already firmly made up and they flock together in groups. They don't want to have discussions or have their minds changed and they won't unless some cataclysmic event happens that completely changes their world view. You can't 'win' an argument against them because they'll never take a defeat and the second they can see your point they don't want to admit it- instead of conceding and considering an alternate POV they fall back to the usual screaming about how you're a bigot/racist/transphobic/etc.

You literally cannot win because they always already consider themselves the victor.

The only thing you can do is live your life and not get involved with them. Raise your kids to be critical thinkers and keep them off the goddamn internet. Be a critical thinker yourself. The tide is gonna turn, it kind of already is, the vast majority of people are not SJW(s) and in about 10-20 years a large portion of these danger-hairs are gonna grow up to the new soccer mom karen's and consider their past an embarrassment. People's priorities change as time goes by and most of the idiots who're young and trying to 'fight a war' in the cultural sense will grow up. It's tale as old as time.
 

Jarolleon

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Don't pay money to go into a social science based schooling or 'higher education' that's infested.

Go do a trade. You make good money, have lots of upward mobility, have the ability to fix common household issues depending on what you do, can start your own business, you can work almost anywhere and can increase your certification to further increase your pay. Best of all it doesn't matter if you're boy, girl, or ambiguous gendered blob there's no room for social discussion when you're learning plumbing, electrical schematics, heavy equipment, etc etc. It's cut and dry to following the manual. Your feelings will not change the way you wire or route or drive.

IMO. In regards to the topic question I don't think there's a proper answer. A lot of the problem with SJW(s) is that their minds are already firmly made up and they flock together in groups. They don't want to have discussions or have their minds changed and they won't unless some cataclysmic event happens that completely changes their world view. You can't 'win' an argument against them because they'll never take a defeat and the second they can see your point they don't want to admit it- instead of conceding and considering an alternate POV they fall back to the usual screaming about how you're a bigot/racist/transphobic/etc.

You literally cannot win because they always already consider themselves the victor.

The only thing you can do is live your life and not get involved with them. Raise your kids to be critical thinkers and keep them off the goddamn internet. Be a critical thinker yourself. The tide is gonna turn, it kind of already is, the vast majority of people are not SJW(s) and in about 10-20 years a large portion of these danger-hairs are gonna grow up to the new soccer mom karen's and consider their past an embarrassment. People's priorities change as time goes by and most of the idiots who're young and trying to 'fight a war' in the cultural sense will grow up. It's tale as old as time.
Of course you're never going to convince a stereotypical dangerhair from Evergreen. It's Karen from HR, your bank manager, local aldermen, and the K-12 teachers drinking the Kool-aid because they think that's just what the experts recommend that I'm worried about. People like that tend to have lots of disposable income and/or lots of influence on your life and that of your children, and it's largely because of them that these activist organisations are so well-funded, and the iconoclasts are largely unopposed.
 
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Lemmingwise

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Both are probably correct, but come off as Alex Jones-tier lunacy.
You should stop caring so much about how you "come off" and start caring more about standing strong in your convictions without pummeling them too mercilessly. It's really like shooting fish in a barrel. But they're kinda soyfilled retarded fish. Because you have to be pretty stupid to believe that what you're educated in schools into believing is revolutionary. SJW's believe they're the rebels, rather than the stormtroopers. And it takes literally 5 minute of independent thought to detrain yourself from it. It's just that most people are too fucking weak and scared to say it out loud because they don't want to be cancelled.
 

Forgetful Gynn

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You should stop caring so much about how you "come off" and start caring more about standing strong in your convictions without pummeling them too mercilessly. It's really like shooting fish in a barrel. But they're kinda soyfilled retarded fish. Because you have to be pretty stupid to believe that what you're educated in schools into believing is revolutionary. SJW's believe they're the rebels, rather than the stormtroopers. And it takes literally 5 minute of independent thought to detrain yourself from it. It's just that most people are too fucking weak and scared to say it out loud because they don't want to be cancelled.
It's not about the argument anymore, it's all about the presumed authority. If X says Y and X is an "Accepted Authority" then Y is true and you can't argue that it isn't because you're not an accepted authority on the matter. It doesn't matter how good your argument is, it doesn't matter how much you actually know and how little their authority figure actually knows, you lose because you lack the clout. This is how science is perceived, and the media uses it as well. If the media doesn't report on something it simply didn't happen. If only one side of the media reports on it but the other doesn't, then the side that didn't report on it perceives the side that did as being crazy conspiracy theorists.

It works simply because humans didn't invent arguing to determine what was correct about the world, they invented it to determine who was right.
 
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Lemmingwise

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It's not about the argument anymore, it's all about the presumed authority.
I thought that was the clear implicit meaning behind saying they're not rebels, not revolutionary.

You say that science is perceived that way, and I guess by media and such it is, though I have my doubts that people perceive it that way. People don't really trust media that much and it only takes a nudge to hear all their unverified-by-science thoughts and beliefs. This isn't an exclusive to left, right, dissident or obedient, I don't run into many people who don't have deviating thoughts. People don't really trust science either, or at least not when it comes to their pet subjects.

Besides, you're also wrong. It's always about the argument. It just isn't for the person that notices they're losing it. Then it becomes about other things. Then it's just "a talk" like Sargon with Spencer. Because if you never debated, how could you lose the debate?
 

jje100010001

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The one thing that could kill SJW academia in its crib is a student debt crash, since the colleges will pick the grievance studies to be axed first, since they are the least valuable financially and the least likely to see returns.

Another thing to consider is fewer people going to college can limit the indoctrination of the SJW movement as well.

IIRC, Core Zoomers are going to college at lower rates than Millennials and Early Zoomers since the student debt trap is well-known at this point. I'd imagine this will be even more of a trend with the Late Zoomers and the Alpha Generation when they enter adulthood.

The Millennials and Early Zoomers are so hyper-woke as a generation because more of them went to college than any other generation in American history.

Really, the one-two punch of a Trump win in 2020 coupled with a student debt crash or debt reform that specifically ends the college loan gravy train would be the most effective way to kill the Woke Left in the long run.
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, there is an actual corollary here there isn't:
It doesn't matter. You being "like [wrong people]" does not mean you're wrong. The best response to these kinds of arguments is to mock them for it. You can mention how "the established scientists" once thought the Earth was the center of the universe. If they tell you that's somehow different, ask them how. From there it really depends on your skill at rhetoric vs theirs. Just know that you're on the side of "challenging scientific authorities" and they're on the side of following them (but only some of them).
For bonus points: mention works in the field of biology that show testosterone's influence on cognitive function or a gene variant that correlates strongly with blacks and their propensity to violence. If they reject these studies, then they have no right criticizing you for rejecting theirs.
 
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