Golden Knights, in first NHL season, do the unthinkable in reaching Stanley Cup Final -

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...s-golden-knights-stanley-cup-final/627276002/

In a city where Frank Sinatra crooned, the Rat Pack roamed, Sugar Ray Leonard fought and Liberace headlined, the Golden Knights are proving to be one of the most celebrated acts in Las Vegas history.

The expansion Golden Knights defeated the Winnipeg Jets 2-1 on Sunday to win the Western Conference final in five games and earn an improbable berth to the Stanley Cup Final.

Fourth-liner Ryan Reaves, a Winnipeg native who was acquired at the trade deadline from the Pittsburgh Penguins in a complicated three-team deal, scored the game-winning goal in the second period.

If the Golden Knights triumph against either the Tampa Bay Lightning or Washington Capitals, they would be considered one of the most unlikely champions in sports history.

We are talking Buster Douglas taking down Mike Tyson, New York's 1969 "Miracle Mets" or No. 8 seed Villanova beating Georgetown to win the 1985 NCAA championship.

WESTERN

CONFERENCE

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— Vegas Golden Knights (@GoldenKnights) May 20, 2018
Historically, expansion teams are set up to initially fail. In the modern era, the Golden Knights, who went 51-24-7 in the regular season, are the first expansion team in the four major sports to post a winning record. The last two NHL expansion teams, the Columbus Blue Jackets and Minnesota Wild, won 28 and 25 games, respectively, in 2000-01.

Most experts predicted the Golden Knights would finish among the league's worst teams. Nobody believed they could finish with the fifth-best record.

The Golden Knights might be the best team story in the NHL since the Wayne Gretzky-led Edmonton Oilers rewrote the record book in the 1980s with four Stanley Cups in five seasons.

It is a feel-good tale. The Las Vegas community and the team bonded before the first puck was dropped because of the Oct. 1 tragedy that saw 58 people die in a mass shooting during a concert in the city.

As team members supported the victims' families and first responders, the connection with fans grew stronger. On opening night, Vegas defenseman Deryk Engelland made an emotional, inspirational speech at center ice that will never be forgotten.

The community was strong, and it turned out the team was strong on the ice. With speed, passion and aggressiveness, the Golden Knights have played a perfect style for this era of hockey.

The Golden Knights have become just as unique in their presentation of the game, using theatrics and creativity at T-Mobile Arena. Laser shows. Elvis impersonators. Showgirls. Skits. Swordplay. Wayne Newton. Humorous comedy bits on the video screen. A castle in the stands.

All of the players are popular, but none more so than goalie Marc-Andre Fleury, the former Pittsburgh Penguins star who has launched the second act of his career in Las Vegas.

Although the Golden Knights' success has been an exciting story line, not everyone is celebrating it.

Some fans believe winning should take time. They point out important franchises have never won a Stanley Cup. The storied Toronto Maple Leafs haven’t won since 1967.

The NHL changed the player-protection rules in the expansion draft to give the Golden Knights a greater opportunity at forming a better roster than previous expansion teams.

The 30 other teams were allowed to protect seven forwards and three defensemen and one goalie or eight forwards/defensemen and one goalie.

That means the Golden Knights, in theory, landed the 10th- or 12th-best player on every team’s roster.

They were supposed to get third-line forwards and No. 4 defensemen, but they did better than that because general manager George McPhee shrewdly managed the assets to land first-liners Reilly Smith, Jonathan Marchessault and William Karlsson and a top goalie in Fleury.

The Golden Knights have earned this impossible dream trip to the Stanley Cup Final.

Terrence Lee, USA TODAY Sports
 

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count me in, I know very little about NHL but stuck money on them at start of season because they sounded cool.
cool fam do you have a discord yet? are you in movie night? I would set this up as us watching a stream and using a discord to talk about the game. I would provide the stream, but if that's not necessary you can watch on your own.
 

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cool fam do you have a discord yet? are you in movie night? I would set this up as us watching a stream and using a discord to talk about the game. I would provide the stream, but if that's not necessary you can watch on your own.

yeah same name, not been on movie night yet but will drop in next time. Setting up a stream would be handy for me
 

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Sin City having one of the BEST hockey teams out there - this is one fucked up timeline.
 

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i mean it helped that the expansion draft basically gave them carte blanche per talent; i don't even watch hockey and know that
 

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Sin City having one of the BEST hockey teams out there - this is THE BEST timeline.
FTFY fam. Even if the Knights don't bring home the Stanley Cup they've done some amazing shit.
 

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i mean it helped that the expansion draft basically gave them carte blanche per talent; i don't even watch hockey and know that
The rules are way more lenient, without a doubt. On the other hand, if the NHL continued to do expansion like it did with Minnesota, CBJ, Nashville, Atlanta, people would complain that the old ways set teams up for failure, which is sort of true. Were just now seeing Nashville and CBJ rise in ranks and Atlanta had to relocate (their 2nd time) to be a perennial, and even that took 7 season after moving to Winnipeg, and all that took 20 years.

In Vegas' defense, a lot of the players they chose were 3-4th line talent or were journeymen. Obviously they got the best modern day goalie (dont @ me)in the draft and James Neal, but I recount a few guys on VGK that were traded or even released to FA in seasons before the expansion draft, and were seen as trade fodder or depth guys, and they're making a name for themselves. Teams also made a lot of draft day trades and deals to prevent VGK from poaching a player they really wanted to keep, so the balls were in the other 30 teams courts the whole time. You also need to take into account that the NHL talent is tenfold what it was 20 years ago. There were still 35-40 year old burnout guys working for a low end contract that were getting exposed, and that's all that was getting exposed. So they didn't give two fucks if the expansion Wild did good.

If it went like the 2000 expansion, Vegas would have went 10-72 and relocated in 10 years.


edit- what's even worse is that Seattle, which is most likely going to be unanimous 31-0 approval, will probably have better draft options 2 years from now.
 
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count me in, I know very little about NHL but stuck money on them at start of season because they sounded cool.

What odds did you get?

Whenever I would do expansion drafts on this awesome site leading up to the real one, I always took Fluery off Pittsburgh every single draft but would pass on Neal because he's on the wrong side of forwards' historical prime peak production ages. The terrifying thing is, they've got 24 million (even with David Clarkson's all time laughable mistake of a deal on the books right now for 10.5 million for the next two seasons!) in cap space to run at Tavaras as of now to be the real first star player acquisition in franchise history infancy so this is possibly just the beginning since the Kings are sporting several forks in their collective hides in the west!
 

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The Caps have their chance tonight it's like the Ravens against the Steelers, but the caps won against pitt so I'm happy and don't give a fuck anymore.

They won against pitt that is all I wanted.
 

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I'm not super au fait with the Islanders and how the room is rolling, but would Lamiorello coming to town have any sway on Tavares you reckon? I mean I think he's staying there anyway, but still. Gotta think it might have an impact.
Lou will help for sure. Garth Snow needs to go and they need to get Mike Hunter. There are talks about Lou going after Tavares and Kovalchuk, but Kov is asking for a lot more than he's worth and I wouldn't give him more than a few mill a year.
 

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i mean it helped that the expansion draft basically gave them carte blanche per talent; i don't even watch hockey and know that

They were far from handed a championship. The GM just did some excellent team building moves.

I completely forgot there was an NHL team here until I saw all the billboards pop up when the playoffs came around.
You have a dark souls avatar.. read the threads here. They basically did dark souls for real but instead of using a sword used a hockey stick.
 

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You have a dark souls avatar.. read the threads here. They basically did dark souls for real but instead of using a sword used a hockey stick.
I more meant that they weren't really advertised. Before the season started, it was golden knights everywhere. Then it completely disappeared. Now that it's playoffs there's billboards up, tons of cars with GK stickers, kids in school with knights gear... It all just came out of nowhere.

I live in Vegas.
 

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Stuck thirty dollars at 100/1. Drinks are on me if they do it.
I heard from a source (my drunk sports junkie friend) places are taking buy backs if you cash in before the series starts. Not sure if it's true. But I've heard of people doing those 500:1 getting like $10k for turning it in.
 

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I heard from a source (my drunk sports junkie friend) places are taking buy backs if you cash in before the series starts. Not sure if it's true. But I've heard of people doing those 500:1 getting like $10k for turning it in.

Got the option to cash out at 3/4 of winnings myself before the series starts.
 
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