Google Stadia General Discussion - Like any other gaming platform, but worse.

[Pissmaster]

I find it hilarious that the Ouya was a viable platform for longer than Stadia.

The virgin Stadia vs. The Chad Ouya

"There's nothing special about this board", Julie "Big Momma" Uhrman says as a flex on her competitors, knowing that even one of the world's most prominent tech giants couldn't develop a better platform than what Julie could make with off-the-shelf parts and 8 million NEETbux.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

Can I just say how shocked I am CWC never decided to buy this?

The sped even knew a bad deal when he saw it. And he paid for Switch Online, FYI. And he didn't bite for Stadia.

 

[Pissmaster]

Can I just say how shocked I am CWC never decided to buy this?

The sped even knew a bad deal when he saw it. And he paid for Switch Online, FYI. And he didn't bite for Stadia.

I'd think CWC would throw a fit over it not being a True & Honest game console, considering the Stadia starter pack or whatever comes with a Chromecast Ultra, and not something Stadia-branded.

 

[Myzsterious Mizster Jones]

The graveyard will have a place for it soon, it can join all of these other products Google gave up on

Killed by Google

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killedbygoogle.com

Also

RIP Google Reader, Orkut.. which unlike Stadia were actually useful.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

I'd think CWC would throw a fit over it not being a True & Honest game console, considering the Stadia starter pack or whatever comes with a Chromecast Ultra, and not something Stadia-branded.

He probably also believes Google is trying to stop the merge or some other insane autistic conspiracy theory.

 

[Pissmaster]

So there's an app called T Mobile Tuesdays and a few years ago they advertised it really heavily and it was pretty good for a few months, they actually gave out free shit and occasionally they'd have coupon codes like "get $15 to spend at this website" and if you had multiple lines you could combine the codes and stack them, I got a nice pair of sunglasses that were like $50 for free this way. Same deal with their free Dunkin Donuts donuts, I got a few free tumblers because they were just $2 gift cards.

But they suck now, it's mostly just coupons like "get your first month of this subscription box for only $4". I still check it when I remember to just in case, and this week, we've got...



It really was right above something called "Kiwico", hahaha.

So I guess I've got Stadia Pro from now until September. Trip report coming whenever I get around to trying it out.

edit: Well the signup process sure is shit, in the fine print they state it's for new accounts only and I guess they're really not kidding considering I made one like a month ago just to look around and didn't actually do anything with it, not even accepting the free trial. And apparently, that makes it not eligible for the free code, so I had to log into a different Google account.

Also I tried putting in the code while on my phone, but there just isn't a way to do that, so I got on my laptop only to find out the code doesn't work on already-registered accounts. So now I have two Stadia accounts. Hey, remember that thing where one of the preorder bonuses was that you could reserve your username on Stadia? Well that means jack shit because it does that thing Discord does where your username comes suffixed with a four-digit number, so everyone can have whatever name they want. cwcsonichu taken? Don't worry, up to 10,000 people can be a true & honest cwcsonichu!

Though you can't just change your name after you register. There's a "contact us" button in the settings screen that mentions changing your name.

 

[Pissmaster]

I've been writing a review for Stadia off and on, but for now, look at this game that just came out. It's a Stadia exclusive, and it's free for Pro accounts. I claimed it because I claim every single freebie on whatever platform I'm on, because I'm a digital hoarder.

Yeah, I don't think I'll be spending much time with this. Even the banner has that whole uninspired look where the artist tried to make it seem super unique, but ended up being completely devoid of style and looking like everything else from this era. Oh look, a gender-ambiguous, dark skinned endomorph with multicolored tied-back dreadlocks for hair on the left, a white girl with three different hair colors with hands bigger than Shaq's on the right. Literally nobody else is representing styles that look exactly like this, because the entire game industry is full of literal Nazis and every single other game ever made is exactly like Active Shooter, Super Seducer, and Tranny Deadnamer 2020.

And the afro girl, front and center, has Dreamworks face.

Even the game's title gives me pause. "Crayta", so... like, crater? Is this game gonna crater? Oh wait, it's like the word "creator" but annoying to say.

The actual game is one of those "make your own game within this game" things:

Crayta brings together players of all abilities and backgrounds to create and play multiplayer games with their families, friends, and the rest of the world. Create and collaborate in real-time, then share your games instantly with the Crayta community. Powerful, flexible, accessible, fun – game creation is now a game in itself!
The Premium Edition also includes free seasonal content throughout 2020.

So I started it up to look at it, which drops you right into a character creator. It's not one of those crazy detailed ones where you can adjust the ridge of your character's nose, though this is one of those games that'd benefit from it, since there's no way to not make your character look like a total faggot. Here's the most masculine one I could come up with:


That thing over his eye was supposed to be red.

As for the game itself, eggghhh...... In general, things like this never really tend to find their own identities. You're putting the cart before the horse by selling a game creation tool first, and a game second, but when you need the creation tool to even start playing the game you made, your audience is exclusively limited to other people who have it. Which will be other people aspiring to make their own games, not looking to play anyone else's. RPG Maker lets you export your games into their own dedicated EXEs and distribute them freely, letting anyone play them without ever actually touching RPG Maker. And then you've got mods where people make games out of other games, which refreshes a game they already enjoy, which gives you a built-in audience from the start. Hell, there are plenty of games out there that started as mods of other games. The two biggest new genres to explode in the 2010s started life as mods: MOBAs were born from DOTA, a mod of Warcraft III; and Battle Royales were born from DayZ, a mod of ARMA 2. The perks of making a game by modding one you like is that you already know all sorts of details about the limitations of the engine, any quirks in the game's logic, and a general idea on how what should go where.

Crayta is like the Esperanto of game design. In theory a good idea, but in execution as clumsy as it gets. English is the most widely used language on the planet, but it's built out of scraps from lots of different languages, as cultures converged and the language grew. Video game engines are similar in their growth.

Wait, no-, don't cringe, I- look, here's a family tree of Western languages:

and here's a family tree of game engines, from Quake to Source 2:

which is technically incomplete, considering Quake is built from id Tech 2, which is the followup to the Doom engine, made by a team whose first project as their new company, id Software, was building a proof-of-concept remake of Super Mario Bros. 3 for DOS, to pitch to Nintendo, which in turn was later reworked into Commander Keen.

The point I'm trying to make is, mainstays tend to be built on the shoulders of giants. You already know the ins and outs of your favorite game. You have an idea of what made it so good, and how you approach different scenarios in that game. Crayta, on the other hand, is a black box until you've played it enough, and without any real direction within the game itself, and how it relies on community content, it's hard to get a feel of where to start. There's a low enough barrier to entry to where good, high quality content becomes buried in a sea of zero-effort garbage, so novelty things like working calculators and songs made from level elements tend to rise to the top, since they're some of the only things where you'll know what you're getting going in. This is a game designed to be modded, but only in ways they approve of, using only their assets. It's a fucking Stadia (timed) exclusive, for God's sake, there's no way to get into the game's files at all without heisting some Google data center. I fucking love seeing new games from random creators with great ideas, and this kind of shit is anathema to the creative process. Toby Fox, the motherfucker who made Undertale, which is kind of an extremely successful fucking game, got his start making a romhack of Earthbound where the final boss calls you a faggot. This Crayta shit's just a lazy cashgrab.

 

[Ahriman]

In other news,

https://twitter.com/BangBangClick/status/1319305553454288896

This has to be one of the hottest takes of the year 2020 - this is coming from none other than the Creative Director at Stadia.

Imagine saying something so mind-blowingly tarded, that you're getting ratio'd so fucking hard, to the point where you have to append to your twatter bio "ALL OPINIONS MY OWN".

Before:

After:

Dude fucked up so badly, a Google spokesperson has released a statement about it.

https://9to5google.com/2020/10/22/gamers-condemn-stadia-creative-director-streamers-should-pay-publishers/

This dude could single-handedly KILL Stadia with his tarded take.

Edit: https://tw.tinf.io/rickyberwick/status/1319387812869844993

 

[Pinball 2000]

DSP of all people managed to dunk on this guy:

https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1319351085773959168

 

[The Fool]

YongYea did a video about that. Two, actually. He read a tweet which pointed out the irony of Alex's banner not only being fanart of a famous streamer who streamed his game, but that he cropped the artist's signature from it, not giving them credit for the work. People are calling him a mere hypocrite, but with that level of deftness, I think he more or less has actual brain damage. You can't be this stupid without just trolling.

I'd love to make a million takes on this whole event, but, everyone else has already done that and thensome by now. I will say, although I'm preaching to the choir here, that I'm extremely happy Stadia failed, because these are the fuckheads running it. Do not take their "public apology and distance from him" straight-faced, everyone in Stadia and Google in general is just as sleezy and tone-deaf as this asshat, that's how he got hired in the first place. These are the people running Stadia, don't let them disown him, don't let them get away with throwing him under the bus.

 

[Ahriman]

Indeed, the idiot kept doubling-down, tripling-down and quad-down on it. This one:

https://twitter.com/BangBangClick/status/1319315937439469568

The replies to it are fucking hilarious - the NFL is already streaming their matches on fuckin' Twitch.

Holy fucking shit, what a tard.

I'd love to make a million takes on this whole event, but, everyone else has already done that and thensome by now. I will say, although I'm preaching to the choir here, that I'm extremely happy Stadia failed, because these are the fuckheads running it.

Agreed. Fuck Stadia and fuck this stupid cunt.

 

[Billy_Sama]

In other news,

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https://tw.tinf.io/BangBangClick/status/1319305553454288896

This has to be one of the hottest takes of the year 2020 - this is coming from none other than the Creative Director at Stadia.

Imagine saying something so mind-blowingly tarded, that you're getting ratio'd so fucking hard, to the point where you have to append to your twatter bio "ALL OPINIONS MY OWN".

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Before:

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Dude fucked up so badly, a Google spokesperson has released a statement about it.

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https://9to5google.com/2020/10/22/gamers-condemn-stadia-creative-director-streamers-should-pay-publishers/

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This dude could single-handedly KILL Stadia with his tarded take.

Edit: https://tw.tinf.io/rickyberwick/status/1319387812869844993

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If there is a plus to this, it reminded people about the Stadia after people forgot about it.

 

[The Fool]

If there is a plus to this, it reminded people about the Stadia after people forgot about it.

I'm not saying this is actually the case because I'm not a conspiracy theorist and it's kinda insane, but, as pure speculation, how fucked it would it be if this was an intentional marketing ploy. Have a director (A useless one. What even is a "Creative Director"? It sounds like a fake job you'd give the diversity hire while you stick them in the utility closet with a box of crayons) make a universally bad take, stopping short of just outright saying "nigger" or "vote for trump", get Stadia trending because of it, then come out and disown him.

Again I'm 100% positive this wasn't intentional, but, goddamn that would be a funny marketing tactic. Outrage and cancel culture really are amazing at getting something attention.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Stadia is a great idea on the surface, hey, being able to play PC quality games without having to spend all that money on a gaming PC? Sign me up!

Until you realize that never actually owning a game and it being able to vanish forever if it's not a success makes it a terrible idea, not to mention the feasibility of internet being fast enough to make it an actual "PC quality" experience.

 

[Pissmaster]

The director of Stadia is so obsessed with licensing that he, and only he, believes streamers should pay for a license for the games they stream. Holy shit, how can a Google director not understand the internet to that degree?

Stadia's biggest problem all along has been its tenuous stance on customer ownership. They're asking sixty bucks for new games, just like every other platform, but you get neither a disc nor a download. You get a license to stream the game from their servers and play it remotely. A license that could be nuked at any time, for any reason, with no refunds to the customer. This is on a platform by Google, a company known for being extremely woke, and for shutting down services that are anything less than explosively popular. And yet, their creative director is the one guy in the industry that believes streamers should buy licenses just to stream the games they play, thereby restricting them that much more. Hot damn, does that put on display how much Stadia's team believes in restricting their games.

And I'm sure they're wondering why Stadia is all but forgotten during the runup to PS5 & Xbox SX. I am 100% certain that they were cock-sure those consoles would be dead in the water, due to everyone moving to Stadia

 

[Jaimas]

YongYea did a video about that. Two, actually. He read a tweet which pointed out the irony of Alex's banner not only being fanart of a famous streamer who streamed his game, but that he cropped the artist's signature from it, not giving them credit for the work. People are calling him a mere hypocrite, but with that level of deftness, I think he more or less has actual brain damage. You can't be this stupid without just trolling.

I'd love to make a million takes on this whole event, but, everyone else has already done that and thensome by now. I will say, although I'm preaching to the choir here, that I'm extremely happy Stadia failed, because these are the fuckheads running it. Do not take their "public apology and distance from him" straight-faced, everyone in Stadia and Google in general is just as sleezy and tone-deaf as this asshat, that's how he got hired in the first place. These are the people running Stadia, don't let them disown him, don't let them get away with throwing him under the bus.

In short, you believe that he wasn't slapped for making a bad take.

He was slapped for making the reason behind making that take too obvious for the normies.

 

[️ronic]

In other news,

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https://tw.tinf.io/BangBangClick/status/1319305553454288896

This has to be one of the hottest takes of the year 2020 - this is coming from none other than the Creative Director at Stadia.

Imagine saying something so mind-blowingly tarded, that you're getting ratio'd so fucking hard, to the point where you have to append to your twatter bio "ALL OPINIONS MY OWN".

View attachment 1682849

Before:

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After:

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Dude fucked up so badly, a Google spokesperson has released a statement about it.

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https://9to5google.com/2020/10/22/gamers-condemn-stadia-creative-director-streamers-should-pay-publishers/

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This dude could single-handedly KILL Stadia with his tarded take.

Edit: https://tw.tinf.io/rickyberwick/status/1319387812869844993

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This reeks of cope.

 

[Secret Asshole]

The Stadia failed because Google put fucking retards like this in charge.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Stadia is a great idea on the surface, hey, being able to play PC quality games without having to spend all that money on a gaming PC? Sign me up!

Until you realize that never actually owning a game and it being able to vanish forever if it's not a success makes it a terrible idea, not to mention the feasibility of internet being fast enough to make it an actual "PC quality" experience.

And there was a better alternatively before Stadia was even released: GeForce Now(that I have mentioned several times in this thread already). It ties into your steam library, or epic, and games are not bought through Nvidia. A thin client on a PC or phone is all that is required.

Sudden licensing fuckery started eroding that platform when Stadia showed up and I suspect that Google leaned on some of their new partners to get their games away from Nvidia's far superior streaming platform(superior because of how it handles games and clients). If so then Stadia made things worse in many ways.

 

[BScCollateral]

Stadia's biggest problem all along has been its tenuous stance on customer ownership.

I'd suggest Stadia's biggest problem is the unreliability of Google. Who is going to invest money in a Google service after Google+ was shut down?