Gotham High (Finally! Batman for the Riverdale crowd!) -

Emperor Julian

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So marvel heard shitty high school dramas are back in and are out of idea's
The sad part is the sort of kids who read comics are typically the sort who hate stuff like Riverdale and 13 reasons why, they're trying to sell apples to a man who wants to buy an organge.
Imagine if they put this much effort into reforming their distribution networks to expand their sales as they do embarissing stunts like this.
 

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There's several self-inserts.
The writer thought making Bruce Asian made more sense, and was inspired by Crazy Rich Asians and Gossip Girl.
They did an interview with Entertainment Weekly, which once declared America Chavez their comic of the year.
This is bad fanfic, pure and simple. And yes, they very clearly want to make this a TV show.

I think JL8 shows that this kind of thing can actually work, if there's real thoughtfulness and care behind it. But this is a complete basic bitch approach to DC characters.
 

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Hey look, it’s the Joker.
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That is such an ineloquent and awkward way to say "Tried to design him as a syphathetic antivillain". Also, I hope he gets a damaged tattoo.

There's several self-inserts.
The writer thought making Bruce Asian made more sense, and was inspired by Crazy Rich Asians and Gossip Girl.
They did an interview with Entertainment Weekly, which once declared America Chavez their comic of the year.
This is bad fanfic, pure and simple. And yes, they very clearly want to make this a TV show.

I think JL8 shows that this kind of thing can actually work, if there's real thoughtfulness and care behind it. But this is a complete basic bitch approach to DC characters.
I dont see the point of making Alfred a gay uncle. I thought part of the appeal to their dynamic was someone who wasnt obligated to raise an orphan child chose to. Alfred could have hung back and been a professional, but he chose to raise and support Bruce however he could, and still sasses him to this day.

The writer said making Bruce half Chinese would be putting a little something of herself in there, which strikes me as a little odd: instead of a trait personality trait its a background and racial one. While background can influence personality, it just feels strange that its not something like "I emphasized how he deals awkwardly with people he loves because I relate to that". Like, adding unnecessary detail instead of expanding on what was present within the character already. I might be wrong but it feels as if she didnt have much feeling towards Bruce in the first place. She wants to focus on how his wealth is a double edge sword and how his privilage seperates him from others (could be interesting in the right hands!) and chooses to change an element of him just to make him more palitable to her. Hes more of a vehicle for her and didnt care until she racebent him while the main-er focus will be on the joker and Selena bc villain love, but again I could be wrong.
 

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Holy fuck that promo has me in tears. It's just Selana Kyle lamenting over having to choose between the two super hot boys fighting over her. I mean I'll give credit where credit is due, this is book fits right in with smoldering piles of copy-pasted garbage that young adult authors churn out every year. It's almost like they are trying to parody the genre by using every single overused plot point in their marketing material except they aren't and they are 100% serious. They actually fucking used the line "I'm just that girl next door."

This book sounds like a shitty shoujo manga on steroids.
 

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Alfred is now gay and Bruce’s mom is the REAL reason the Wayne Foundation has so much money.
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You know the way they drew her there looks like she shady as fuck. Makes it seems like it's drity money and it takes a man to clean a womens dishonest money. I doubt that is what they wanted it to seem like. :story:

Hey look, it’s the Joker.
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While not bad in itsself Given who writing this, It turn out bad.
 
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You can read the full interview about Gotham High here if anyone interests, along with the preview of the first issue.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: When DC Ink approached you to reinvent YA versions of popular comic book characters, what drew you to Batman?

MELISSA DE LA CRUZ:
My husband is a big Batman fan, so when DC called and said, "We want to do a YA line, what character do you want to do?" I wanted to do Batman. It’s such a fun, iconic character that I could put my own spin on.

THOMAS PITILLI: A lot like your husband, I’ve been a Batman fan my whole life. I grew up on the Batman: The Animated Series cartoon back in the '90s, so ever since then I was hooked. As far as superheroes go growing up, he was always my number one, so for me to get to work on any incarnation of Batman, it’s a dream come true. And to do it for a younger audience specifically, it’s so cool because there haven’t been too many young Bruce Wayne stories. That really appealed to me.


EW: What excited you both about debuting new versions of not only Batman, but also the Joker and Catwoman?

DE LA CRUZ: Bruce Wayne is the billionaire. He’s the richest man alive. So I thought, wouldn’t it be fun if his family was Chinese and from Hong Kong? That made it feel real. There’s been a big influx of wealthy Chinese people who moved from Hong Kong to Arcadia in Los Angeles, and that’s where my mom lives, I’m part-Chinese, my brother lives in Hong Kong, so I thought it would be great to put what I know into Bruce Wayne. I just wanted him to be a little bit more representative of my background and giving him an authentic family – Alfred is not just his butler but also his uncle, his gay uncle from Hong Kong. It gives it this fabulous Crazy Rich Asians sheen to it.

PITILLI: That breathes new life into the character, especially in today’s world since we’re living in the most diverse world we’ve probably ever lived in, so it’s more representative of Batman in 2020. And since he’s a teenager, I tried my best to put a little bit of myself into the character as well, channeling those feelings of being an adolescent and feeling like an outsider. I definitely wasn’t a billionaire, but oftentimes I felt very separated from everyone else around me.


EW: What did you use as the inspiration for this new version of Batman?

DE LA CRUZ: I pitched a kind of Gossip Girl Batman, and in my mind I wanted to reinvent Chuck Bass. He’s still Bruce Wayne, it’s not the Great Gatsby, so he’s still brooding, he’s still a loner, he still has all that iconic Batman personality. You can’t mess with that much. But making him Chinese was a no-brainer — everyone was on board from the beginning.

PITILLI: From an artistic standpoint, the history of Bruce Wayne and Batman was essentially wiped clean. I wasn’t held down in any way to one specific thing. It gave me an opportunity to think of this character completely differently than how other artists have drawn this character over the years.


EW: Thomas, how did you go about designing the look of the characters since it was such a clean slate?

PITILLI: There’s so much of that Instagram culture and social media culture with teens today, so I tried to interject that into the style and look of the characters, specifically with the Joker character. He was the hardest character to visualize and design because he’s not your average villain. He’s almost not a villain at all, in a way. He goes back and forth where you sympathize with him sometimes and sometimes you see him as a villain. So I wanted to give him a look that played off both sides of his personality. We kept going back and forth on revisions, and finally it came down to, at the time we were doing Gotham High, I had this haircut and it’s the same haircut we ended up giving the Joker. It became a great reference throughout the process since I just had to look at myself. [Laughs] In a weird way, the Joker character is the most like me.

DE LA CRUZ: And I would send you fashion for Selina, because I had really specific ideas for outfits I wanted her to wear.

PITILLI: And that really helped. That brought more of what you envisioned onto the paper.

EW: Melissa, when you sat down to develop the story of this graphic novel, what was your main goal that you wanted to accomplish?

DE LA CRUZ:
I wanted to write about a young Bruce Wayne, so obviously there’s going to be a love story. The Joker’s pretty hot, so he’s got to be in there. That’s where I started. I wanted to write something about how he dealt with his wealth because I’ve always written stories about how things that people think are so great actually don’t turn out to be so great. I just wrote The Queen’s Assassin, about a girl who doesn’t want to be a princess. So I wanted to show how it’s not actually that great to be that rich, it’s actually a barrier between Bruce and everyone around him. It’s almost a burden to be so different. Is he able to have friends? Can he have a relationship? And then I went from there.


EW: Speaking of that love triangle, we’ve always seen Batman, the Joker, and Catwoman at odds with each other, and sometimes Batman and Catwoman in romantic situations. Where did you get the idea to make that a full-on love triangle?

DE LA CRUZ: I always remember this quote from Truman Capote’s In Cold Blood, where he’s talking about the killers and he says something like, "We came from the same place, but I walked out the front door and he walked out the back door." There’s this feeling that they’re the same person, just with different circumstances. I wanted to put that in the Batman-Joker dynamic: They’re almost the same person, but Bruce has all this privilege and Jack has nothing. What does that do to who they become? And then there’s a girl in the middle — the hottest girl to ever walk the halls of high school [laughs] — and what does she want? It came out of trying to figure out all their desires. What does Jack bring to Selina that’s different from what Bruce brings to Selina? Ultimately you don’t know who she’s going to pick. You root for both of them, and there’s a surprise in the end.

PITILLI: There’s a Shakespearean aspect to the love triangle, and I was trying to feed off of that with the art by making all the characters almost overact. It was an opportunity to stretch my artistic acting muscles — I could act through my drawings.


EW: Of all the new YA DC graphic novels that have come out so far, Gotham High is the first to really blatantly set up a sequel. Where do you envision this story going in the future?

DE LA CRUZ:
I’m a series writer, a franchise writer. I like to create the universe, and playing with the big, iconic characters. It felt like doing the Descendants, but in the DC universe. I would love to play a little more. We have minor characters that we can get to know a bit more, like Poison Ivy and Harvey. And I don’t think it’s the last we’ll see of Selina, Jack, and Bruce either. I’m hoping to do more of Jack’s story in the second book.

PITILLI: I feel like a fan right now hearing that! This is so set up for a sequel. I can’t help thinking about where that can potentially go. I love the idea of building up more of that Poison Ivy character and Harvey character, so hopefully that happens. I’d love to continue drawing these characters.

DE LA CRUZ: And we barely even saw Robin!

PITILLI: There’s so much there to explore further.
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One thing in the preview, since English isn't my native language. Are they saying the black kid is Robin, Richard Grayson?
 

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Apparently the comic is the Author self inserting themselves as the girl that the boys fight over.

Also all the boys are also gay.

I give it 2 issues before it ends.
So this is what My Immortal would be if it was picked up by a major publication.

Also I swear to god the Batman Highschool AU gay smut comic drawn by Phausto a gay man would have a better story and a higher ground on the progressive stack.
 
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TowinKarz

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This is the grim future of comics, folks.

As the publishers go out of business, what will be left are the naked IP's, the names and concepts of the traditional characters from both the major stables, reduced to salable art assets that every hip and progressive group that can get enough swag donated from it's followers to afford the rights for a day will purchase so they can make that self-congratulatory issue they always wanted where everyone is gay, totally in line with the "right" politics.... and the hero naturally falls for the author's blatant Mary Sue self-insert. And the fact nobody else will buy it will give them the "right" to moan and complain for years about how the comicgators ruined their stunning and brave take on heroes, and don't you DARE say they're loons, they have a PUBLISHED comic! Do YOU!?!?!?!

Welcome to the era of licensed custom fan-fiction and the beloved characters of yesterday reduced to whoring themselves on the corner to just sustain a heartbeat.

What used to be the cringe on the back page of the internet is now the industry mainstream and vice versa.
 
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Holy fuck that promo has me in tears. It's just Selana Kyle lamenting over having to choose between the two super hot boys fighting over her. I mean I'll give credit where credit is due, this is book fits right in with smoldering piles of copy-pasted garbage that young adult authors churn out every year. It's almost like they are trying to parody the genre by using every single overused plot point in their marketing material except they aren't and they are 100% serious. They actually fucking used the line "I'm just that girl next door."

This book sounds like a shitty shoujo manga on steroids.
I still can't figure out what this has to do with a guy who dresses up as a bat and beats up criminals.
 

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Got some ideas for this, hire me DC
Poison Ivy, the school weed dealer
Ridder, a kid on ritalin
Bane, illegal mexican immigrant
Harvey Dent, tumblr user that is headmates with Two Face
Kill Croc, furfag that wears a croc outfit
Mr Freeze, is an incel with Nora being some girl he stalks
Clayface, now just changes gender as he wishes
Anarky, Gotham's antifa leader
Harley Quinn, instagram thot
 
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So after trying to navigate my way through the godawful art style, I have a bad feeling that bruces backstory now includes "hiding under his bed while his mother is raped to death" which if true may well qualify this to be the single most hilariously bad example of literal My Immortal tier garbage fanfics being picked up and turned into official works by shit-hack writing teams and uncaring producers in recent memory....

....ok.... maybe not the *absolute* worst, after all we live in a SOCIETY world where this is the new critically acclaimed star trek continuation
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