Plagued Goths, emos and scene kids - "If you're a fake goth, you're out son!" Hipster faggots and edgelord cringe

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Bluewafflez

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Except hipsters and emos have nothing to do with each others aside from occasionally wearing tight jeans?

Source: 2002, when I stopped giving a shit never gave a shit

They actually had a lot to do with each other. Emocore arose early 90s with bands like Fugazi, then the "emos" were barely distinguishable from other punks. Then emocore started getting whinier and more like pop-punk to which hipsters took on the identity before it went mainstream and was adopted by angsty teens. Hipsters aren't just dweebs with horn-rimmed glasses, fixed gear bikes and thrift shop clothing. Hipsters are parasites with flexible fashion tastes based on counterculture who basically ruin everything before stuff goes mainstream. Come to Germany where the organic eating, trashy 90s looking hipster look and wanting to be a music extraordinaire hipster has become the mainstream.
 

Internet War Criminal

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They actually had a lot to do with each other. Emocore arose early 90s with bands like Fugazi, then the "emos" were barely distinguishable from other punks. Then emocore started getting whinier and more like pop-punk to which hipsters took on the identity before it went mainstream and was adopted by angsty teens. Hipsters aren't just dweebs with horn-rimmed glasses, fixed gear bikes and thrift shop clothing. Hipsters are parasites with flexible fashion tastes based on counterculture who basically ruin everything before stuff goes mainstream. Come to Germany where the organic eating, trashy 90s looking hipster look and wanting to be a music extraordinaire hipster has become the mainstream.

Again afair hipsters were never into emo at all, they were assholes who drink pabst read pitchfork religiously but pretended they didn't and just heard about all of those bands on their own and were into weird unlistenable shit like Ekkehard Ehlers and Swedish avant guard progrock bands that may or may not exist because no one actually ever listened to them, and the whitest hip hop shit on top of the occasional beyonce track to justify shitting on everything else mainstream everyone likes
 

Bluewafflez

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You are still confusing actual hipsters with current hipster trends. Like I said, hipsters change, it is not just one fixed scene but one that changes over time and much quicker than other subcultures. When hipsters took up emo it was 2000/2001, then the mainstream happened and when something goes mainstream, it becomes unappealing to the hipster.

Past hipster trends were greasers, mods, bohemians, proto-grunge, etc. It is literally the "before it was cool" meme. You may not like it but it seems that they tend to always make something appealing for everyone else because hipsters are attention needy extroverts.
 

Internet War Criminal

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You are still confusing actual hipsters with current hipster trends. Like I said, hipsters change, it is not just one fixed scene but one that changes over time and much quicker than other subcultures. When hipsters took up emo it was 2000/2001, then the mainstream happened and when something goes mainstream, it becomes unappealing to the hipster.

Something becoming mainstream becoming unappealing is not just a hipster thing though every other asshole who loves something niche gets all pissy whenever normies get into it as well. And I'm talking about around 2000, you're the first person ive ever seen claim that the emo kids and hipsters shared a scene

Anyway all of this is irrelevant to my original question: how the fuck did emo kids go from popped collars and punk music to whatever faggot shit it is today, looks like goth-lite with a side of april lavignesque raccoon eyes
 

Bluewafflez

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That is because hipsters are not a damn subculture. They steal from subcultures and often even mix them. I never said hipsters and emos shared a scene because when the emo scene was small, hipsters joined it. Now imagine if a hipster joins a scene they learn to become like the others. Hipster can almost be used interchangeably with special snowflake.

And to your question: Special snowflakes turn everything into faggy shit, especially the teen ones. They are to blame.
 

Bluebersaur

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Anyway all of this is irrelevant to my original question: how the fuck did emo kids go from popped collars and punk music to whatever faggot shit it is today, looks like goth-lite with a side of april lavignesque raccoon eyes

It's a lot like how fashion changes. Same goes for these little circles of cultures/sub-cultures. The definition of what makes an emo an emo has shifted as styles/music/etc. have progressed and changed. Emo kids have adapted to change their appearance to resemble whatever media is screaming to be emo in modern times.

Back in my days there was no "pastel goth" or "pastel emo" or whatever in sam hill labels they're creating nowadays, and my days weren't even that long ago. Emo kids wore black, were pale, generally had pitch-black hair covering one or both of their eyes, and were absolute sad sacks 24/7. Nowadays it's still being emotional little twits, but the visual style has changed and modern people claiming to be emo are borderline scene kids.
 

fire_fly

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Anyway all of this is irrelevant to my original question: how the fuck did emo kids go from popped collars and punk music to whatever faggot shit it is today, looks like goth-lite with a side of april lavignesque raccoon eyes

It was over a period of years, I know that. I remember reading an interview with Dashboard Confessional back in like 2002 and that was the first time I even even saw the word "emo", when it was mostly just about the style of music and they all dressed normally. And then a few years later, in my senior year of high school, it was kids in skinny jeans with spiky, fucked-up-looking hair, listening to even shittier, more juvenile music like Blood on the Dance Floor. Couldn't even tell you what it's like now, though, I don't keep up with music outside of my immediate interests anymore.
 

Magnum Dong

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from what i've seen, the "scene" has gone in a few separate directions in the past few years:

--leftover mid-2000s emos who will support FOB and panic! with their last dying breaths, and will always cry about the MCR breakup, because ~emo never dies~
- aesthetic: sorta punk-lite clothes, darker colors, many have the SJW Dyed Undercut​
--young teens obsessed with 21pilots and/or weirder pop girls (e.g. halsey, grimes); debatably the "next generation" of emo
- aesthetic: "soft grunge", lots of pastels, tries hard to look like courtney love and/or some kind of weeaboo toddler
- calling them "borderline scene kids" as one commenter did would be inaccurate if only because scene kids went for more of a hair metal look (not that that distinction is really important when we're making fun of people on the internet)​
--people who "grew out of emo" and got obsessed with post-hardcore/pop-punk/Warped Tour shit
- aesthetic: most likely to resemble dirtbags you knew in high school, apart from tons of body mods and some girls still having "emo hair" this group looks the most normal​
--i think a ton of former scene kids are into vaporwave and there's a giant mass of ex-emos who suddenly got into one direction but i don't know the gritty details about all that

this is my first post on kiwifarms after lurking for a month or so, please tell me if i've crossed an unspoken line or something
 

HipstrsGonnaHip

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wait what the fuck way back when emo kids were just 'sensitive' punk kids who listened to sunny day real estate, rites of spring and christie front drive and dressed preppy

what the hell happened?

It's back to that again, except now they're listening to bands that sound exactly like Sunny Day Real Estate, Texas is the Reason and Christie Front Drive.
 

Magnum Dong

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Looking back, I feel very lucky that my parents couldn't afford to buy me clothes from hot topic when I was in middle school. You know what I'm talking about? Those fucking 70 dollar pants that were huge.:story:
Tripp pants! The favorites of cybergoths everywhere. Hot Topic barely sells the huge ones anymore, though they still carry the brand. I'd almost feel nostalgic if those pants weren't godawful.
 

Checkered Spotlight

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I saw like, two thirty two year old men wearing Tripp pants once. They looked like they'd been vomited out of 2006.

I never understood shopping at Hot Topic. Blowing 50 dollars on a Legend of Zelda shirt that'll fall apart in like, a week? Why? Isn't Hot Topic against what punk and hipsters (who seem to be their target audience now with all that fuckin' Bee and Puppycat shit they have now) stand for?
 

Bluebersaur

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Isn't Hot Topic against what punk and hipsters (who seem to be their target audience now with all that fuckin' Bee and Puppycat shit they have now) stand for?

No, not really. Hot Topic is as it's name entails; it carries whatever is "hot" on the market and hitting mainstream levels of popularity. Hell, for a good while they were carrying Justin Bieber gear when the little shite first hit the stage. They had FNAF shirts while those games were fresh and infested with crazy fans. The only things that have really stood the test of time and never really left Hot Topic were Poke'mon, general anime, Invader Zim, and generic attire of bands and skulls. Otherwise their merchandise shifts a lot as fads come and go.
 
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