Lolcow Grace Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery (Joseph Lavery & Mallory Ortberg) - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

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Literally indistinguishable from any other NYC hobo I’d cross the street to avoid.

Come to think of it, the delusional ranting to nobody in particular and general vagrant like sloppy appearance are both pretty common in troons. I guess universities and the government coddling trannies is what passes for a social welfare net for the mentally ill and otherwise unemployable these days
 

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She was definitely seething & coping & atrophying, on Twitter (as shown just up thread) regarding the image of Joe’s hamfist shoved into her mouth.
Mouth full of sigils.

She attempted to play that sting down, tremendously, as she informed the “audience” that she did not care at all. Tweeted 3X, didn’t she?

The humiliation must be as bad as the humiliation she constantly feels as a wife of Joe’s, furiously hiding away, three-deep in D &D model painting & puppies.
I actually wonder what Mallory’s friends from the pre-Joe era think at this point in the trainwreck. I know publicly only “stunning brave” cheerleading is allowed but privately I think distancing themselves and real concern prevail, but the woke politics ensues they keep their mouths fearfully shut.

I've had a suspicion for awhile that the whole church scandal drama was a manufactured distraction and a way to discredit her parents for voicing valid concerns about wtf was going on. I just don’t know if Mallory was cognizant of it, or if it was carefully orchestrated by Joe and Mallory was convinced she was actually some brave, heroic transman striking a blow to evil cis Christian pedophile homophobes. I think there was some issue with her brother and Joe saw it as a golden opportunity to remove all the influence anyone had with Mallory besides himself. The scandal cemented his position.

I think for awhile her parents were supportive, went along with the trans stuff and "whatever makes Mallory happy" But at some point they really started to see how dangerous and toxic her relationship with Joe was. I'm sure quite a few of her friends saw the same and were concerned. The Trans stuff muddied the waters spectacularly. If they had not employed the Trans-shield Joe being a toxic, dangerous partner for Mallory would have been blindingly obvious to all.

To avoid a rapidly building confrontation over Mallory’s mental health, a obviously toxic relationship and how her personality was being radically changed by said relationship, a major drama or distraction was needed. What better way to discredit any worries or concerns her parents were discussing with anyone than to publicly declare them pedo enablers? It was a distraction and also gave warning to any friends or associates what kind of treatment they could expect if they questioned wtf was going on with Mallory.

Mallory’s family posed the biggest threat to Joe’s control over Mallory. The trans stuff became a invincible shield because any friends or associates that might voice concerns could be smashed with the “transphobia, cis normative fascist” club until they were a puddle on the floor and be accused of siding with “cis Christian pedo enablers”

The worst part is I think Mallory was dealing with some acute mental health issues but it was all totally ignored because as part of her issues she decided she was a man. Once the Trans card was in play no one could approach the issue of mental health because that would be transphobic. Instead Mallory was handed testosterone and scheduled a mastectomy. Any questioning of this course of action in woke circles is unforgivable transphobia and gatekeeping.

Once six months of ingesting testosterone and family alienation has been accomplished Joe’s victory was complete. I think publicly posting a photo of Mallory gagging on his fist was his own little version of a victory parade. Whereas Mallory thinks she’s made the ultimate brave warrior throwing off all the chains of her cis Christian nuclear family upbringing.
 
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This actually cuts to the heart of what makes bougie white women a perfect target readership. They tend to be somewhat self-hating and empathetic to an insane point, which is why they buy things like White Fragility like hot cakes. A certain kind of liberal woman like that would love the opportunity to flagellate themselves while Ms. Grace Lavery tells them all about how they're being women wrong. There's just a lot of publishing that's geared toward women punishing themselves for being well-off right now, like a more pessimistic New Age movement.

If this were a different kind of trans memoir, I might agree, but Lavery and DiAngelo have two different audiences (even though I’m sure some parts of the Venn diagram intersect) and this memoir is most-definitely not the trans memoir for the bougie, well-heeled, well-educated, guilt-ridden sect. There is definitely a trans memoir or intersectional feminism book to be written for that audience, but that isn’t this book.

The cover alone — not to mention the tired title — makes it clear this is about kink and fetish and is designed to be “edgy” more than a way for woke rich white women to absolve their guilt by being yelled at.

You can even see with the way Joe sperged out over the response to his blatant trolling that the argument that “cis women need trans women” didn’t play with many people at all. He spent literally days fighting with people who have 50 followers, but not winning any hearts or getting platformed by people with large/influential followings. The school newspaper tweet got ratioed but one of Joe's tweets has had much traction, and that's because the semantic infighting/trolling doesn’t appeal to that audience.

As best I can tell, the intended audience for this book is “edgy” queers who are, ironically, fairly radical and consider people like DiAngelo to be oppressors and who turn their nose up at anything mainstream. I'm personally not convinced that already small audience wants to read about Joe's clown fucking escapades, bu we‘ll see.

Watching Joe try to tweet through this for attention and seeing very few people actually care is sort of amazing, however. He’s trying so hard to make himself a martyr and no one cares.
 

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Watching Joe try to tweet through this for attention and seeing very few people actually care is sort of amazing, however. He’s trying so hard to make himself a martyr and no one cares.
A few months ago Joe thought he was winning the trans culture war. Then Keira Bell and Sweden happened. Now Laurel Hubbard is drawing lots of attention to the athletic thing. The new state legislation against transing kids woke some people up. The Human Rights Campaign is calling people like crazy trying to get support because quite frankly I think people are squeamish about kids’ health and women’s sport being infiltrated by the trans agenda.

There is at least one doctor in the US, Dr. Gallagher, who operates on kids as young as 15 and there may be more. Once people realize we are allowing breast removal before we allow tattoos I do think there will be some uproar.

All this to say, I think Joe is realizing that there is a line at which even those in favor of equal rights will peak trans and that line probably starts and ends with our teenaged daughters in the US.

He’s beginning to panic that he won’t be the too cool, woke, avant- grade, sexy, trend setter of his AGP dreams and is drumming up publicity. He’s starting to see that people view him as someone very invested in the removal of their daughter’s breasts. They are starting to realize he’s teaching their young adult children and encouraging their transing on college health care plans. He’s also super pervy and totally hot for humiliating vagina havers. That’s gonna peak anyone who takes five minutes to research this. This is not about men wearing dresses and keeping their jobs. This is about medicalization of a psychiatric condition that needs therapy not affirmation. And it’s also about female athlete and lesbian erasure. It’s about trans folks removing focus on feminist issues like maternal and infant health and centering it on their own mental health issues.

Here’s the thing, the more he tries, the less I want to read the book (even pirated for free) because he is offering nothing new. Kinks and cross dressers have been around forever. Gender stereotypes are old news. Where’s the new stuff?

Show me the football player in a ruffled dress at the awards banquet and the hordes of female mass shooters on death row and I’ll say maybe we’ve conquered non-conforming gender stereotypes. (Please don’t serially kill anyone that was a total joke but I think you all get my point).


There is literally nothing new about this other than it shows we’ve given up on trying to change anything at all and we’re just transing people instead. Well and also destroying the lives of anyone who makes a peep against it— that’s new. But people are getting braver. I am. I’ve been trying to speak out once a week on the topic. So far it’s been with favorable results.
 
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He’s beginning to panic that he won’t be the too cool, woke, avant- grade, sexy, trend setter of his AGP dreams and is drumming up publicity. He’s starting to see that people view him as someone very invested in the removal of their daughter’s breasts. They are starting to realize he’s teaching their young adult children and encouraging their transing on college health care plans. He’s also super pervy and totally hot for humiliating vagina havers.

I mean, he and everyone else that's like him really do think there's a direct line connecting them to Andy Warhol's Factory. And to this day, way more people have heard of and admire the Warhol aesthetic than the Valerie Solanas vibe. What we really need to do is fight harder on this front, the "queer," elite, pomo front. Only dumb wine moms care about "daughter's breasts," after all. Begin by explaining to people that Joe is a straight man, and that most people who call themselves "queer" are either straight people pretending to be trans or straight people pretending to be bisexual. And then maybe people need to read more of the pomo and psychoanalytic stuff these people do, and realize pretty quickly that most legit Lacanians would never buy into this garbage, and that "perversion" is nothing to be proud of, it's not cool and sexy, it's just pedophilic and sad.
 

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A few months ago Joe thought he was winning the trans culture war. Then Keira Bell and Sweden happened. Now Laurel Hubbard is drawing lots of attention to the athletic thing. The new state legislation against transing kids woke some people up. The Human Rights Campaign is calling people like crazy trying to get support because quite frankly I think people are squeamish about kids’ health and women’s sport being infiltrated by the trans agenda.

There is at least one doctor in the US, Dr. Gallagher, who operates on kids as young as 15 and there may be more. Once people realize we are allowing breast removal before we allow tattoos I do think there will be some uproar.

All this to say, I think Joe is realizing that there is a line at which even those in favor of equal rights will peak trans and that line probably starts and ends with our teenaged daughters in the US.

He’s beginning to panic that he won’t be the too cool, woke, avant- grade, sexy, trend setter of his AGP dreams and is drumming up publicity. He’s starting to see that people view him as someone very invested in the removal of their daughter’s breasts. They are starting to realize he’s teaching their young adult children and encouraging their transing on college health care plans. He’s also super pervy and totally hot for humiliating vagina havers. That’s gonna peak anyone who takes five minutes to research this. This is not about men wearing dresses and keeping their jobs. This is about medicalization of a psychiatric condition that needs therapy not affirmation. And it’s also about female athlete and lesbian erasure. It’s about trans folks removing focus on feminist issues like maternal and infant health and centering it on their own mental health issues.

Here’s the thing, the more he tries, the less I want to read the book (even pirated for free) because he is offering nothing new. Kinks and cross dressers have been around forever. Gender stereotypes are old news. Where’s the new stuff?

Show me the football player in a ruffled dress at the awards banquet and the hordes of female mass shooters on death row and I’ll say maybe we’ve conquered non-conforming gender stereotypes. (Please don’t serially kill anyone that was a total joke but I think you all get my point).


There is literally nothing new about this other than it shows we’ve given up on trying to change anything at all and we’re just transing people instead. Well and also destroying the lives of anyone who makes a peep against it— that’s new. But people are getting braver. I am. I’ve been trying to speak out once a week on the topic. So far it’s been with favorable results.
I think those two issues (transing kids and women’s sports) will singlehandedly peak a lot of lib-leaning normies who generally don’t care what bathrooms people use. Because two groups of people (GNC kids and female athletes) could be disadvantaged by following the party line unquestioningly, which goes against the “live and let live, I don’t care what consenting adults do with their bodies as long as they don’t hurt anyone” liberal ethos.

I’m also curious to see how these issues will be handled in academe. There’s this popular idea that academia is a neo-Marxist paradise but that’s an illusion, these institutions are really quite conservative and profit-driven. A trans scholar like Joe would be attractive on paper for UCB to help meet diversity quotas and enhance their progressive image, but now he’s using his public platform to overshare about his sex life and promote misogynistic & regressive ideas. Both are highly frowned upon in academia. I’m guessing Joe’s tenure committee is feeling some regret right now.
 

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I think those two issues (transing kids and women’s sports) will singlehandedly peak a lot of lib-leaning normies who generally don’t care what bathrooms people use. Because two groups of people (GNC kids and female athletes) could be disadvantaged by following the party line unquestioningly, which goes against the “live and let live, I don’t care what consenting adults do with their bodies as long as they don’t hurt anyone” liberal ethos.
OT, but even recently the tone seems to have shifted. Previously, if you looked at facebook comments under articles about trans shit (I know, I know, facebook, but still) it'd be trolls and GCs getting set upon by normie libs rising up to defend The Transes. The recent Hubbard stuff though has had almost none of that, and a lot of "I fully support trans women, they're women, etc., but..." - plus, yes, some chiding of those comments for their eevol transfobeea, but the balance seems to have shifted noticably re: the opinion of the "do no harm" moderates/centrists/liberals/normies etc.
 

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OT, but even recently the tone seems to have shifted. Previously, if you looked at facebook comments under articles about trans shit (I know, I know, facebook, but still) it'd be trolls and GCs getting set upon by normie libs rising up to defend The Transes. The recent Hubbard stuff though has had almost none of that, and a lot of "I fully support trans women, they're women, etc., but..." - plus, yes, some chiding of those comments for their eevol transfobeea, but the balance seems to have shifted noticably re: the opinion of the "do no harm" moderates/centrists/liberals/normies etc.
Yup, at least in America I think most normies could get on board with the trans agenda when the narrative was that they were regular people who were “born in the wrong bodies”, who just wanted to live their lives in peace. But the narrative shifted once they got a little power and now their goals are to abolish gender entirely and tell women who fought hard for equal rights to stfu because they have “cis privilege.” You can see it happening in real time with people like Joe - the further they push the dialogue toward misogyny and AGP sperging, the quieter his former allies become. No one needs to bother peaking normies, troons are doing it for themselves lately.
 

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lol Joe, many, many gender critical feminists are far more educated in feminist theory than you'll ever pretend to be. Wittig, for example, believed in the TOTAL ABOLITION of gender roles, not the reification of them. Feminists who want the categories of "women" and "men" to be eliminated are not your allies, dude. They did and do not give a fuck about men who want to call themselves "women" because they wish they could be pretty and get fucked like a "woman," lol.
Mary Daly also loved Wittig and cited her often but something tells me that Joe believes he knows more about feminism than Mary Daly. I love how Joe clearly realized that he needed to read feminism to keep up with Jane Clare Jones and Kathleen Stock and is trying to debate on the subject while having barely skimmed the surface of academic feminism. Wittig was a footnote in the movement and he’s out here trying to cite her as if she was a major mover because he read one of her novels once.
 

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I actually wonder what Mallory’s friends from the pre-Joe era think at this point in the trainwreck. I know publicly only “stunning brave” cheerleading is allowed but privately I think distancing themselves and real concern prevail, but the woke politics ensues they keep their mouths fearfully shut.

I've had a suspicion for awhile that the whole church scandal drama was a manufactured distraction and a way to discredit her parents for voicing valid concerns about wtf was going on. I just don’t know if Mallory was cognizant of it, or if it was carefully orchestrated by Joe and Mallory was convinced she was actually some brave, heroic transman striking a blow to evil cis Christian pedophile homophobes. I think there was some issue with her brother and Joe saw it as a golden opportunity to remove all the influence anyone had with Mallory besides himself. The scandal cemented his position.

I think for awhile her parents were supportive, went along with the trans stuff and "whatever makes Mallory happy" But at some point they really started to see how dangerous and toxic her relationship with Joe was. I'm sure quite a few of her friends saw the same and were concerned. The Trans stuff muddied the waters spectacularly. If they had not employed the Trans-shield Joe being a toxic, dangerous partner for Mallory would have been blindingly obvious to all.

To avoid a rapidly building confrontation over Mallory’s mental health, a obviously toxic relationship and how her personality was being radically changed by said relationship, a major drama or distraction was needed. What better way to discredit any worries or concerns her parents were discussing with anyone than to publicly declare them pedo enablers? It was a distraction and also gave warning to any friends or associates what kind of treatment they could expect if they questioned wtf was going on with Mallory.

Mallory’s family posed the biggest threat to Joe’s control over Mallory. The trans stuff became a invincible shield because any friends or associates that might voice concerns could be smashed with the “transphobia, cis normative fascist” club until they were a puddle on the floor and be accused of siding with “cis Christian pedo enablers”

The worst part is I think Mallory was dealing with some acute mental health issues but it was all totally ignored because as part of her issues she decided she was a man. Once the Trans card was in play no one could approach the issue of mental health because that would be transphobic. Instead Mallory was handed testosterone and scheduled a mastectomy. Any questioning of this course of action in woke circles is unforgivable transphobia and gatekeeping.

Once six months of ingesting testosterone and family alienation has been accomplished Joe’s victory was complete. I think publicly posting a photo of Mallory gagging on his fist was his own little version of a victory parade. Whereas Mallory thinks she’s made the ultimate brave warrior throwing off all the chains of her cis Christian nuclear family upbringing.
I tend to believe both are true - that Mallory’s family are weird fundie pedo enablers, and that Joe used the opportunity to further isolate and brainwash her. Based on the church’s statements I highly doubt Joe manufactured the allegations, but I do think he took advantage of an already bad situation.
 

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OK, I see the Yaniv resemblance now.

If this were a different kind of trans memoir, I might agree, but Lavery and DiAngelo have two different audiences (even though I’m sure some parts of the Venn diagram intersect) and this memoir is most-definitely not the trans memoir for the bougie, well-heeled, well-educated, guilt-ridden sect. There is definitely a trans memoir or intersectional feminism book to be written for that audience, but that isn’t this book.

The cover alone — not to mention the tired title — makes it clear this is about kink and fetish and is designed to be “edgy” more than a way for woke rich white women to absolve their guilt by being yelled at.
It certainly is not the correct audience, but Joe seems to think his book is meant to titillate bored housewives. I think he just likes fantasizing that normal women will be captivated by him, but you're right; it is clearly for intelleckshual kweers only.

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This take really made me mad. I've got a hair trigger lately about people forcing questions like this. "Why do you need that?" "What's wrong with you that you care about being cis?" Women have smaller, often weaker bodies of the two sexes. This fact has been used to invent all sorts of things about women throughout history, all the way up to scientific reasoning post-Enlightenment assuring us that our brains weren't good enough to follow the arguments of men. "Gender roles" have nothing to do with that, and you're a fucking idiot if you think otherwise.

Open your mind, Joe. What would it mean ... for you to shut the fuck up for once?
 

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No one needs to bother peaking normies, troons are doing it for themselves lately.
I've said it time and time again - the TRAs biggest enemies aren't TERFs because a lot of TERFs tend to be kind of mental and people will just tune them out. It's the troons and the fact that a lot of them fall into cluster b personality disorders. They're not going to get a majority on board that it's a good idea to cut off autistic girls' breast off and flip dicks inside out. Even their main mascot's facade for kids transitioning is rapidly crumbling and turning into a horror show each progressing day. Then add AGPs natural creepiness on top of it and their inability to read the room and you've got a whole bunch of people "peak trans'd".
 

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I mean, he and everyone else that's like him really do think there's a direct line connecting them to Andy Warhol's Factory. And to this day, way more people have heard of and admire the Warhol aesthetic than the Valerie Solanas vibe. What we really need to do is fight harder on this front, the "queer," elite, pomo front. Only dumb wine moms care about "daughter's breasts," after all. Begin by explaining to people that Joe is a straight man, and that most people who call themselves "queer" are either straight people pretending to be trans or straight people pretending to be bisexual. And then maybe people need to read more of the pomo and psychoanalytic stuff these people do, and realize pretty quickly that most legit Lacanians would never buy into this garbage, and that "perversion" is nothing to be proud of, it's not cool and sexy, it's just pedophilic and sad.
I mean Solanis was a member of the Factory scene until she became too dangerously insane for even Warhol’s menagerie of freaks. Valerie was the extreme radical feminist dyke pet. Warhol had plenty of drag queens, gay men, hustlers and straight women - Solanis filled a void in his weird people collecting.

Valerie stood out to Warhol because she was lesbian hustler, a “straight for pay” prostitute. However, her paranoid schizophrenia proved to be too much for even the Factory scene so she eventually got the boot.

The rich and famous people visited the Factory to mingle with the downtown freak scene and Valerie was a part of that, not the antithesis of it.
I tend to believe both are true - that Mallory’s family are weird fundie pedo enablers, and that Joe used the opportunity to further isolate and brainwash her. Based on the church’s statements I highly doubt Joe manufactured the allegations, but I do think he took advantage of an already bad situation.
Where are all the other pedos they enable then? I think Joe and Mallory exploited a psychological problem the brother was struggling with for their own nefarious means. There are no better agreed upon evil for the SM world than the pedo and rapist labels. The daring duo certainly milked it for substack subs and attention too.

Having perfectly nice supportive white Christian parents was a problematic and complex narrative for the woke Trans-royalty couple. Evil, scandal ridden, secret pedo enabling Christians was a far better fit for their purposes. It was a easily digestible good vs evil narrative for woke SM, brave, selfless Trans-couple vs evil fundie Christian pedo family.

I think that it helped Joe achieve total isolation of Mallory was definitely a top priority for him. It also positioned him as “supportive partner in Mallory’s time of crisis” to friends and orbiters.

I’ll gladly retract my views if any terrible facts or a Congo line of victims turn up in the future but after all the uproar and dirt diggging done we are still only left with “Johnny had some bad thoughts and his dad didn’t ostracize him” as the extent of the bad Ortbergs evil deeds.
 
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This take really made me mad. I've got a hair trigger lately about people forcing questions like this. "Why do you need that?" "What's wrong with you that you care about being cis?" Women have smaller, often weaker bodies of the two sexes. This fact has been used to invent all sorts of things about women throughout history, all the way up to scientific reasoning post-Enlightenment assuring us that our brains weren't good enough to follow the arguments of men. "Gender roles" have nothing to do with that, and you're a fucking idiot if you think otherwise.

Open your mind, Joe. What would it mean ... for you to shut the fuck up for once?
He cannot possibly be this stupid, can he? Women are not mad about losing heroes who are cis, they are mad about losing heroes who are women. If you take every GNC heroine and declare them a man because they did anything other than sexily flutter their eyelashes and retire on a fainting couch, you are reducing the pool of 'real women' until it includes only people who fit a bunch of stereotypes that women are very tired of. And unlike for Joe, those stereotypes are not a kinky game that you can play when you feel like it and then throw off. They are something women live with every day.
 

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This take really made me mad. I've got a hair trigger lately about people forcing questions like this. "Why do you need that?" "What's wrong with you that you care about being cis?" Women have smaller, often weaker bodies of the two sexes. This fact has been used to invent all sorts of things about women throughout history, all the way up to scientific reasoning post-Enlightenment assuring us that our brains weren't good enough to follow the arguments of men. "Gender roles" have nothing to do with that, and you're a fucking idiot if you think otherwise.

Open your mind, Joe. What would it mean ... for you to shut the fuck up for once?

What that tweet really says is an obvious truth, camouflaged by queer speak, “Women don’t like when men steal their everything.”

No shit Joe, no one likes having their work, heroes, events, spaces, art, etc, stolen.

“Cis” stands in for woman as “trans” stands in for man, in that tweet. & usually in every context, switching out the meant reality by using fantasy queer speak, to crack the code. Queer speak is created & used to obfuscate what’s happening & lubricate troon agendas.

And, cis is a simple, organic chemistry term.

it doesn’t fucking exist outside of that.Definitely not before the word woman.

I never say “cis woman” when woman gets that job done.

(Trans comes into play in organic chemistry, too.)

There is transsexual as a term, which morphed into “transgender” in the last 40 years, esp the last 20, to be specific.

“Trans” has morphed into an amalgamation of moving goal posts. Moving them towards where ever any id pol/ pomo idiot wants to move them, for any reason to suit their every whim.

Trans as a catch all, end all, be all, & then you get crap like that tweet above calling women “cis.” It’s a meaningless term when used that way.

Especially when used that way.

Trans- as whatever the pomo idiot wants it to mean, though usually in reference to a troon, troons, or troonette, & cis, are both nothing w/ out the importance troons & friends give to them.

& notedly, all who use & help to consecrate the terms.

Troon really is a great word, strips to Pomo-ID Poll-er, of giving life to their bullshit terms & ever changing definitions in their bullshit linguistic hellscape desires. The less it hits the average, cultural lexicon, the better, though I don’t think that BS is really any threat or has any danger of permanence. It’s too crap w/ no real filling & no staying power. It’s transitory.

Weird seeing “cis woman” used un-ironically on KF, recently. This place is usually pretty free of queer speak & queer speech policing. If anything, it is mocked.

Troons trying to “make it canon.” Again. It’s a big part of their Achilles Heel, & part of what peaks so many. Always an agenda being pushed.

That fucking stupid tweet, “why do women like female heroes? Open your minds & legs! Why do they have to be women? Blah blah big word nonsense sentences. Clown, octopus, milf puss.” - by Joe

It’s easy enough to just keep saying woman, transexual, troon, whatever the hell you want, in the face of cis bs, trans w/ out goal posts, or any other fiction. Clarifies main points quite easily.

May appear brutal in the face of the current zeitgeist for virtue signaling, but pussyfooting & milque-toasting in the face of these little fascists isn’t the way to change the direction from fetish to grounded, objective, real, shit.
 

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How do you think things end for sloppy Joe and Failory regarding their relationship and their social media presence? Do they go out with a whimper and just fade away or out with a bang?
Whimper and fade away. They'll start living apart from each other and they won't say anything, and they'll mention each other less and less. Joe will continue being a narcissistic wannabe 25-year-old hipster thot and Mallory will probably get another steady writing gig but never reach the heights of admiration and critical acclaim she previously enjoyed.
 

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