Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina/Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

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Aes Sedai

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Whatever ‘s wrong with American culture right now is captured by Greta, a violent, paranoid, narcissist, successfully establishing a grift that pretends to be a suicide hotline for marginalized people. Who helps suicidal people? Psychiatrists. Greta hates psychiatrists. What is one of the biggest factors in completed suicides? Gun ownership. Greta encourages mentally unstable trannies to acquire guns. What exacerbates social isolation? Social instability. Of course Greta wants to overthrow the government. Greta is extraordinarily unsuited to run a suicide hotline. That nobody stopped him is an indictment of our whole society.

As other Kiwis have pointed out, Greta is a second-coming of Jim Jones. The transgenders and related enablers (including Hollywood celebrities like Miley Cyrus) would see this alleged service for the scam that it is if they bothered to look beneath the surface. Greta has already been implicated in at least one suicide, and since he shepherds a flock of delusional followers, it seems like a matter of time before Greta or someone close to him commits direct violence.

Where is the press coverage? There’s clearly a story here. But American journalists are cowards. Anyone shining a light on this egomaniacal cult leader will face heavy personal backlash. No, better to write another essay about the renowned transphobe and children’s book author JKR. When the current wash of woke sympathy gives way to reality (as it inevitably will), then we’ll see retrospectives of the unbelievable story of TLL and its founders.

To my surprise, TLL has a Wikipedia page (as does Nina) and there’s no mention about the board firing its founders for embezzlement. Strange oversight. Or lack of oversight.
 

aquariumwater

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Why do people continue to refer to this obvious man with female pronouns? Please stop pandering to the mentally deranged.
A lot of trannies come to kf to get (and share) dirt on each other. The main giveaway is that even when they hate each other, they still play the pronoun game, lest they be forced to confront their own delusions about themselves.
 

Thumb Butler

"G" is for "gigantic faggot"
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A lot of trannies come to kf to get (and share) dirt on each other. The main giveaway is that even when they hate each other, they still play the pronoun game, lest they be forced to confront their own delusions about themselves.
Very true.

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fuckidunno

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Where is the press coverage? There’s clearly a story here. But American journalists are cowards. Anyone shining a light on this egomaniacal cult leader will face heavy personal backlash. No, better to write another essay about the renowned transphobe and children’s book author JKR. When the current wash of woke sympathy gives way to reality (as it inevitably will), then we’ll see retrospectives of the unbelievable story of TLL and its founders.

To my surprise, TLL has a Wikipedia page (as does Nina) and there’s no mention about the board firing its founders for embezzlement. Strange oversight. Or lack of oversight.

I have little doubt that if one were to try to edit the article, the edits would be rolled-back based on some wholly manufactured reason
I wouldn't be surprised if this has already happened
 

Kiwi Lime Pie

Simply tasteful. 🥝🥧🐈
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The Troonpocalypse is Greta’s equivalent of those zombie survival fantasies people have. Sorry, Kjel, it’s not going to happen, you’ll just have to find some other way to compensate for your missing wang.

This is the exact same shit Greta said would happen if Trump got elected in 2016, and yet here we are. Why anyone buys into her doomer bullshit is a mystery.
That's the thing. Many of transcows documented here have been swallowing four years worth of doomer pills about Trump rounding up transgendered people concentration camp-style even though it's never happened and hasn't even been considered in any way, shape, or form. Apart from some tweaks to military policies regarding transgendered people, it seems as if President Trump has been largely indifferent towards transgendered people as a whole -- though I could be wrong.

Lia's resume is like a chart of troonish downward mobility. Goes from respectable idea of studying horses at a community college then... TLL operator, followed by handling cash at a Ren Faire (what, a weeklong gig at best?), and now working as a pool attendant at Disney World. And I would take that last one with a grain of salt. Kids, don't troon out.
I can't speak about the Arizona Ren Faire mentioned here, but the one I'm most familiar with in my state is open for a number of weekends during late summer/early fall. Regardless, the point that the "job" is little more than a seasonal gig remains valid.

Between trooning out and the whole "adulting is so hard" mentality we see in younger generations, it's not too surprising to see Lia's work history show jobs that are more menial and less permanent/stable over time. Even if being a pool attendant at Disney sounds cushy in print, it's not exactly something most people aspire to as either a long-term job or a career from which to retire. How long before Lia becomes a grifting NEET like Nina and Greta -- especially with Disney furloughing so many workers due to COVID-related loss of revenues/business?

I have little doubt that if one were to try to edit the article, the edits would be rolled-back based on some wholly manufactured reason
I wouldn't be surprised if this has already happened
Here's the history for Nina's page. I'd love to know what makes Nina noteworthy enough apart from her gender identity (spoiler: nothing, most likely).


Not knowing anything about Wikipedia's edit tracking, I found it interesting to see what looks like up/downvote scores for edits. I also found it interesting to see which edits had the highest positive and negative scores. (Edit: Not true per @Picklechu's reply)

Why do people continue to refer to this obvious man with female pronouns? Please stop pandering to the mentally deranged.
When the subject came up in the discussion of another transcow, Dear Leader himself said, "IDGAF" when it comes to what pronouns people use to refer to them on the site.
 
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Picklechu

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That's the thing. Many of transcows documented here have been swallowing four years worth of doomer pills about Trump rounding up transgendered people concentration camp-style even though it's never happened and hasn't even been considered in any way, shape, or form. Apart from some tweaks to military policies regarding transgendered people, it seems as if President Trump has been largely indifferent towards transgendered people as a whole -- though I could be wrong.


I can't speak about the Arizona Ren Faire mentioned here, but the one I'm most familiar with in my state is open for a number of weekends during late summer/early fall. Regardless, the point that the "job" is little more than a seasonal gig remains valid.

Between trooning out and the whole "adulting is so hard" mentality we see in younger generations, it's not too surprising to see Lia's work history show jobs that are more menial and less permanent/stable over time. Even if being a pool attendant at Disney sounds cushy in print, it's not exactly something most people aspire to as either a long-term job or a career from which to retire. How long before Lia becomes a grifting NEET like Nina and Greta -- especially with Disney furloughing so many workers due to COVID-related loss of revenues/business?


Here's the history for Nina's page. I'd love to know what makes Nina noteworthy enough apart from her gender identity (spoiler: nothing, most likely).


Not knowing anything about Wikipedia's edit tracking, I found it interesting to see what looks like up/downvote scores for edits. I also found it interesting to see which edits had the highest positive and negative scores.


When the subject came up in the discussion of another transcow, Dear Leader himself said, "IDGAF" when it comes to what pronouns people use to refer to them on the site.
Those aren't upvotes and downvotes, they're the size of the edits. Green positive numbers means that the edited article is larger data-wise than the previous one, while red negative numbers mean that the edit made it smaller.
 

Von Wolf Demon

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A lot of trannies come to kf to get (and share) dirt on each other. The main giveaway is that even when they hate each other, they still play the pronoun game, lest they be forced to confront their own delusions about themselves.

Yeah, a lot of it is that element, but there are also a lot of people on here who aren't LGBT, but just have varying levels of "tolerance" or whatever one wants to call it. This site is fucking HUGE and has all kinds of points of views on it, which is why it is more interesting than most sites. There are massive threads on here where the tone isn't right-wing or even political at all and any polisperging will be mocked for derailing. Null, not known for his pro-trans stance, is tired of the whole debate of "to gender correctly" or "not gender correctly" in threads. His take is basically "call them whatever the fuck you want and don't derail arguing about it" , which I agree with. I am glad people like Buck Angel read this site as they are the only ones who can easily get away with calling out the Grifty Duo.

Greta is the only trans lolcow I follow whose preferred pronouns and name I consistently use and here's why...

1. I found the Farms through Greta after seeing her post on personal lolcalf Lisa Ganser's threads for about a year. Lisa is a bio lesbian and most of her friends are lesbians, some who look more manly than Greta. I just assumed that Greta was another lesbian as I was just going by FB avatars and not bothering to look closer. However, I did notice that even in threads with some of the most insane fucking weirdos posting extreme political stuff, Greta still stood out! I think Potato Phil was even in those threads occassionally, and standing out more than Phil is a fucking accomplishment. After a while, I got curious and starting following Greta.

So I had probably a year of just thinking of her as "big ugly dyke in small avatar pic" and my brain just got super-wired to think of her that way. I soon figured out she was trans after following her, but that wasn't the part that I cared about, it was just the utter hubris of her entire fucking online persona that intrigued me. I'd never seen a public figure running a non-profit act like she did on social media! Thank you, Greta, for naming the Farms as one of your enemies, so I could find my way here.

2. I don't think Greta makes her OWN trans status the centerpoint of her online behavior, it is just another tentacle of her grift octopus. This is not because she isn't selfish or manipulative, but there are higher priorities for her, like finding ways to make lots of money while not working very hard. Honestly, very few of her posts these days are about trans stuff and are almost entirely generic Antifa/BLM stuff that isn't even worth capping.

She knows she doesn't pass that well and doesn't obsess endlessly about it like a lot of other Ratking members. Hell, she even has a bit of a sense of humor about it and gave the world the term "stinkditch" IIRC and freely admits that there is nothing she can do about her worst "tell": her gigantic manhands. Luke Lockhart, Rhys, Zinnia (who I use he/him for, but nobody knows who the fuck Zack Sklar is), etc. are ALL about "validation" and never shut up about it. Greta knows she is a giant fucking ogre and there is just nothing she can do to pass IRL.

3. Their use of girly names and chopping off their bits is just not interesting to me, even if I consider it weird. It's their legal right to do to so, and a pretty hopeless battle at this point. I just don't care. Also... what is it that all the trans-skeptics get banned from places like Reddit, FB, Twitter, etc. for? 1) "misgendering" ( I love that Null's spellcheck flags that word) and 2) deadnaming. Yeah, that's lame, but it is what it is, and you can call these people out a lot harder if you just abide by those two things. I want to mock them for their lazy griftiness, their child-grooming efforts, their desert death camps, their efforts to invade rape shelters and women's prisons, etc. You can make fun of those things all you want online if you just don't fuck with their pronouns and deadnames. Besides, they commit most of their worst deeds under their new, legal names, and therefore deserve to have those names associated with their activity. Rather than kowtowing to their delusions, I feel like it is taking away one of their biggest social media cudgels that they use to send skeptics to Banworld.

4. I've had a couple trans friends over the years, both of whom were wonderful! One I didn't figure out for about two months, and we became good friends at work. They passed REALLY well and were just a good-hearted person and a great worker in a rather nasty workplace. Never pushed an agenda, never even mentioned being trans, and I just rolled with it. If all trans people were like her, there wouldn't be such an issue. This trans stuff just doesn't seem to have been a huge problem until Tumblr got big? I've lived through a lot of " moral panics" over the years ( War on Drugs, D&D, rock music, horror movies, vidya, gays/AIDS, etc.) and I just don't remember the Tranny Panic? Definitely some upset around the androgyny in 70s glam rock and 80s metal, but even that wasn't really about transsexuals and angry preachers weren't lumping the two together.

I'm sure there were some loud dissenters back in the 50s with Jorgensen, but nowadays, it is the religious fringe who are copying the Iranians and starting to EMBRACE trannyism as a way to avoid the reality of raising a gay. TLDR: the people who actually transition and just move on and shut up about it aren't much of a problem, unlike the 300lb bro with 5 o'clock shadow and a mumu who really wants to share some tampons.

Now for some updates... Nina posted a pic of their weed starts. Are they really planning to grow through the winter in the greenhouse? That's gonna cost a lot in heating.

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It really goes to show how lazy Greta is that they are just now getting their greenhouse rolling, considering that is supposed to be her main contribution. They are not only not producing for distribution, they still have to get delivery for their own stash.

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I'm not sure what this all stems from, but Greta has a hateboner for some trans group. The projection in this is fucking amazing. Really, this is the hill you want to be dying on, Greta? Is Greta implying in the third screencap that the reason she was ousted was because she didn't want to pay the higher level staff more?

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Reminder: nearly everybody involved with taking calls at TLL was volunteer labor. Lia is unintentionally describing exactly what happened with TLL and Greta makes it sound like it was the new board who were the greedy ones. Nice historical revisionism.
 
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kaien

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I'm not sure what this all stems from, but Greta has a hateboner for some trans group. The projection in this is fucking amazing. Really, this is the hill you want to be dying on, Greta? Is Greta implying in the third screencap that the reason she was ousted was because she didn't want to pay the higher level staff more?
The National Center for Transgender Equality is an old-line Washington lobbying shop (founded 2003) that went through some drama last year, essentially a generational clash between the older troons running the organization and the younger troons filling the lower ranks. Wikipedia has some links under "Controversy" if you want to dig into it, but as far as I could ever tell there was nothing very interesting going on.
 

aquariumwater

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what is it that all the trans-skeptics get banned from places like Reddit, FB, Twitter, etc. for? 1) "misgendering" ( I love that Null's spellcheck flags that word) and 2) deadnaming. Yeah, that's lame, but it is what it is, and you can call these people out a lot harder if you just abide by those two things. I want to mock them for their lazy griftiness, their child-grooming efforts, their desert death camps, their efforts to invade rape shelters and women's prisons, etc. You can make fun of those things all you want online if you just don't fuck with their pronouns and deadnames. Besides, they commit most of their worst deeds under their new, legal names, and therefore deserve to have those names associated with their activity. Rather than kowtowing to their delusions, I feel like it is taking away one of their biggest social media cudgels that they use to send skeptics to Banworld.

The tech sector has decided to try to eliminate "hate" speech from the largest online platforms. But "hate" speech includes speaking truthfully about issues instead of using newspeak. They make it intentionally difficult to talk about why MtFs don't belong in shelters, etc. Deadnaming is a dumb concept, and using someone's male name should carry no more weight than using a woman's maiden name or calling "Lady Gaga" Stephanie.

"Deadnaming" is also pretty crucial in demonstrating why so many of them are just using the law to force people to play along with their fetish. If Jim spends his 20's peeping in women's changing rooms, then decides he's "Janet" at age 30, then his right to join a ladies gym should be sus.

All this obfuscation seems like mere politeness until you want to discuss an issue that tech has decided doesn't jive with the newspeak. Suddenly tranny suicide is blamed entirely on society not coddling them enough, and not on the operators of an untrained, understaffed helpline that siphons hundreds of thousands of dollars in donation away from legit charities.

Like Null, I don't care if someone uses one set of pronouns or another, but it is a useful metric in threads like these where some people are just here to gossip about "the bad ones" and others are pointing out the insanity of the entire postmodern system. If a man can say he's a woman and we have to accept that, then by what metric can we criticize someone's lack of qualification to run a charity? If they say they are qualified then by gender standards, they are. If they say they're using donations properly, then you can't use facts to argue with that, because we've already established that objective reality doesn't matter.
 

The Final Troondown

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First time posting but thought this was pretty funny:
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tbf being held down by staff seargeant Kiel and forced to lick private Niraj’s stink ditch easily outranks prison and being shot by the cops as a deterrent to crime
And the abundance of phone cameras won’t be helping the suspect as ‘resisting arrest’ will see them cancelled for transphobia
 
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