Trainwreck Gwen Hartley & The Hartley Hooligans - Attention Seeking Horrorshow Mom of Disabled Gremlins & Neglected Human Son, #FreeCal, RIP Claire

How long does Lola have to live?

  • <3 months

    Votes: 19 6.4%
  • 3-6 months

    Votes: 45 15.2%
  • 6-12 months

    Votes: 74 24.9%
  • 1-2 years

    Votes: 38 12.8%
  • 2+ years

    Votes: 7 2.4%
  • She's already dead and Gwen won't admit it

    Votes: 114 38.4%

  • Total voters
    297
  • Poll closed .

Muscle Bra

I Passed High Scholl Bitch
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jesus fucking christ...

I just did a google search for "Claire and Lola's law" (hoping that it would just be some weird hashtag campaign of Gwennie's) but nope ... it's actually on the books of the state legislature:


If Gwennie gets the taters' names forever enshrined on Kansas legislation, she's going to become even more insufferable... :story:
 

urmom69404

I have no brain (and I must bleat like a goat)
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That's why we have to jab the potato to find out.

Regardless, it requires a circulatory system. She's kind of got that.
The problems we're going to run into is mostly due to the fact she's a skin covered skeleton with no muscle or fat and I don't think the bodytemp part of the brain works well with her, if at all.
Then there's the question of her having any ki whatsoever. A regular, healthy potato has ki, that's why you can jab an electrode in it and run a clock. Lola on the otherhand seems to exist solely as a succession of short circuits.
I also question whether her ligaments are constructed normally on a celllular level.

It could be that increased bloodflow and attempted distribution of regenerative nutrients would cause more harm than good with current Lola, but when she was younger, had Gwen tube fed her and increased her bodyfat, it theoretically would have relaxed her ligaments at the very least.

It will remain a mystery of the orient, unless we take the plunge and jab her for science.
I'm curious as to how the whole acupuncture process would go in Lola's case. I would imagine laying her in her stomach would be out of the question due to the perma-gnarled limbs. That's not even taking into account that Lola cannot stop turning her egg-shaped microhead, and apparently she gets really agitated when it's held in place.
 

Candidae

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Let's be honest, if the medical CBD came from a doctor Gwen would refuse it in favour of some unregulated homeopathic version. I hope she has no part in this simply because she's likely going to do nothing to make it helpful for anyone wanting to get their drugs under legitimate professionals and not attempt self medicating or some woo practitioner. We need more studies and medications made for treatment as well as information to give doctors, not random legalization
 

heathercho

意地悪女
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I'm curious as to how the whole acupuncture process would go in Lola's case. I would imagine laying her in her stomach would be out of the question due to the perma-gnarled limbs. That's not even taking into account that Lola cannot stop turning her egg-shaped microhead, and apparently she gets really agitated when it's held in place.
It would be pointless and impossible. Even if you think it's Chinkwoo and just take it for what it is - it encourages blood flow to certain areas that are stimulated, I don't think it'd work with her circulatory system, as it is now.
I'm pretty sure her circulation is just as fucked as the rest of her.
I would have loved to have seen EMS acupuncture used on them. Would it be like when Giovanni Aldini reanimated the dead George Forster? Would it have given them any relief muscle tone wise? Etc.
 

Deadpool

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of shitposting.
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I can't tell them apart either. One monster looks pretty much like any other. I could only tell them apart by relative size next to a normal. With a head shot, all you can focus in on to tell is Claire's honker.
Claire looked ever so slightly more like a human being. Lola looks like a family of goblins left it's brain dead offspring to be raised by humans.
 

Bubblez McGee

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Has anyone else noticed that since Claire died, almost of the pictures of her that Gwen has posted have been from when she was a younger child, around age 9 or earlier? She was six in the photo above, for example, around 5 months from turning 7.
Perhaps it's too painful for Gwen to see recent pictures of Claire because more newer pics are a stronger reminder than old ones that she's not here anymore, but I think there's another reason. By most standards, Claire could have been considered a pretty child when she was little. It was always obvious that she wasn't quite normal, but she was still a cute kid and even if some folks dont think so, then they could probably agree that she at least still looked somewhat human. However as her facial features continued to grow within a skull that didnt, she became more and more odd looking, until at some point, she resembled a frightening mythical creature more than a person. I dare say that there were times when she looked as bad or even worse than Lola, who has always been a horror show.
The most likely reason that Gwen only wants to share Claire's early pictures is to remind everyone that she once had a pretty daughter and also so that she doesnt have to think about the brutality of her daughters' condition, the severity of Claire's decline and the inevitability that it eventually end the same for Lola.
 

ignominious

was she a great big fat person?
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Let's be honest, if the medical CBD came from a doctor Gwen would refuse it in favour of some unregulated homeopathic version. I hope she has no part in this simply because she's likely going to do nothing to make it helpful for anyone wanting to get their drugs under legitimate professionals and not attempt self medicating or some woo practitioner. We need more studies and medications made for treatment as well as information to give doctors, not random legalization
Nothin wrong with wanting a baked potato. ;)
 

Barbarella

Guards! To the Mathmos with this winged fruitcake.
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I don’t care about this law-marijuana is legal in my state and the world didn’t end. Let her have her baked potato; if any kid can use some weed at 13, Lola’s the one. I am against letting patients and legislature make medical decisions doctors and researchers should make but in this case, who cares?

I thought it was interesting that Gwen lied to the media about the reasons for passing this law. The news guy said while they didn’t know seizures were the cause of Claire’s death, the family thought it was a possibility, and of course, need this law to now save Lola’s life. Lola is seizing ten to 20 times a day, which Gwen hasn't talked about.

So which is it-did Claire die from a virus like she said when it happened, or a “catastrophic seizure”? What’s on her death certificate?

Shows she’s not above lying to get what she wants. Using Lola is horror enough if you go down that road she doesn’t need Clare’s death to make it “worse.”

She also is very clear that her blog and media whoring is to show the world the girls lives have worth and meaning to the world.

Actually, they don’t. Neither does Gwen’s, or Scott’s, or most of us here. In three generations, nobody will know our names or remember us, unless we manage to do something history making, or change something important, which most people don’t and those girls certainly can’t.

That doesn’t mean we don’t have meaning to those who love us, of course, and we can lead rich, productive lives despite just being worker bees. Maybe because we lived and spread our DNA properly and created conditions that one generation passed to the next, it’s possible one of our great-grandchildren will do something great. But even that idea gets fuzzy once you get up to six or seven generations.

Those girls will never have value and meaning except to their families, and even then it was mostly because of Gwen’s imagination spurring them to think Lola is sassy, etc.

Maybe a cynical idea,I’m sure I’ll get negged, but I don’t think the world has to believe two potato kids lives -or mine, or the snorer in my bed- are meaningful to anybody but family. Maybe I’ll have a Zucc type kid but until then. Nope. And I’m fine with that.

In fact, by going public Gwen doesnt realize that everybody takes a message they want. I don’t think Gwen would care for the lessons their existence has taught me, because it’s mostly about the power of denial, the evils of woo and thinking you don’t need a doctor, fear of death more than suffering and what that says about the one watching, and the arrogance of revenge.

To be clear, saying lives don’t have meaning doesn’t mean I think any disabled person should be taken out back and shot, I definitely don’t. I’m using the terms literally and two brainless children who can do nothing are not valuable to society. In fact, they take resources which I’m fine with as that’s what I think tax dollars should be for-protecting the country and those who can’t protect themselves. But meaning and value to the world?

Maybe Ghandi can get there, not me.
 

Candidae

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Out of curiosity, did Gwen ever use seizure medication on the gremlins? I don't think she did but I don't know for sure. Because if not I almost feel like the passing of this law is just to stick it to the doctor even more. She won't use the doctor's medication, she'll use her own she wanted. It's pretty deceptive too cause if she never tried anything else then it's not like marijuana is her last hope. Not anti pot for medical use or for further research into new medications of course, but this just feels more and more wrong the more I think about this. I'm conflicted tbh because if this medication helps someone who can't use the current seizure medications for whatever reason then it's great, plus I'll never turn down advancements in medicine if this leads to more research and new (real) drugs as a cure, but the deceptive nature of this bill might hinder its use for actual people in need if it passes at all
 

heathercho

意地悪女
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I don’t care about this law-marijuana is legal in my state and the world didn’t end. Let her have her baked potato; if any kid can use some weed at 13, Lola’s the one. I am against letting patients and legislature make medical decisions doctors and researchers should make but in this case, who cares?

I thought it was interesting that Gwen lied to the media about the reasons for passing this law. The news guy said while they didn’t know seizures were the cause of Claire’s death, the family thought it was a possibility, and of course, need this law to now save Lola’s life. Lola is seizing ten to 20 times a day, which Gwen hasn't talked about.

So which is it-did Claire die from a virus like she said when it happened, or a “catastrophic seizure”? What’s on her death certificate?

Shows she’s not above lying to get what she wants. Using Lola is horror enough if you go down that road she doesn’t need Clare’s death to make it “worse.”

She also is very clear that her blog and media whoring is to show the world the girls lives have worth and meaning to the world.

Actually, they don’t. Neither does Gwen’s, or Scott’s, or most of us here. In three generations, nobody will know our names or remember us, unless we manage to do something history making, or change something important, which most people don’t and those girls certainly can’t.

That doesn’t mean we don’t have meaning to those who love us, of course, and we can lead rich, productive lives despite just being worker bees. Maybe because we lived and spread our DNA properly and created conditions that one generation passed to the next, it’s possible one of our great-grandchildren will do something great. But even that idea gets fuzzy once you get up to six or seven generations.

Those girls will never have value and meaning except to their families, and even then it was mostly because of Gwen’s imagination spurring them to think Lola is sassy, etc.

Maybe a cynical idea,I’m sure I’ll get negged, but I don’t think the world has to believe two potato kids lives -or mine, or the snorer in my bed- are meaningful to anybody but family. Maybe I’ll have a Zucc type kid but until then. Nope. And I’m fine with that.

In fact, by going public Gwen doesnt realize that everybody takes a message they want. I don’t think Gwen would care for the lessons their existence has taught me, because it’s mostly about the power of denial, the evils of woo and thinking you don’t need a doctor, fear of death more than suffering and what that says about the one watching, and the arrogance of revenge.

To be clear, saying lives don’t have meaning doesn’t mean I think any disabled person should be taken out back and shot, I definitely don’t. I’m using the terms literally and two brainless children who can do nothing are not valuable to society. In fact, they take resources which I’m fine with as that’s what I think tax dollars should be for-protecting the country and those who can’t protect themselves. But meaning and value to the world?

Maybe Ghandi can get there, not me.
The purpose of importance isn't in the flesh world, it's the contribution to your spiritual journey. Or something like that.

If we were to go with that line of thinking : Lola and Claire do have a purpose. Perhaps their lives were based on something their spirit had to learn or they had a selfless life of teaching Gwen's spirit something.
What you're grappling with is the old classic pondering of everything's life being both important and unimportant. Our existence is both something to prize and do our best with and something to be humbled by.

Gwen hasn't learned to be humbled by it. Her ego is still too strong. She holds onto so much hatred for the doctor, when the doctor didn't do anything wrong. He just insulted her ego by suggesting something Gwen created was imperfect. She hasn't been humbled by anything. She's totally missing the point. If we were to hypothetically view the situation in that light.
 

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