Halo MCC/Infinite/general discussion thread - PRAISE CRAIG

What did you think of Infinite after the campaign showcase?

  • It looked good

  • Good, but they need to iron out some issues

  • Majorly apprehensive

  • It sucked donkey dick

  • I need to see more

  • I don't know

  • Craig monke


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Jack Awful

Laughs at Tards
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Am I the only one who doesn't care for Two Betrayals? For me, it has the same problems as Assault on the Control Room: drags out too little for too long, railroads you into tight-quarter slugfests and repetitive objectives. At least Assault let you use the Scorpion...
Same but for Truth and Reconciliation.
Those alien ship corridors all look the same and the checkpoints suck.
 

Miller

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Hopefully they add matchmaking and fix the connection issues.
They better add matchmaking to everything. The original version of the MCC had cool playlists that mixed missions from every game, but no matchmaking.

Those 200K Firefight achievements... God...
I think I only did one with a random guy. It was a pain in the ass. I've tried several times to do the one inside the ONI headquarters with 3 other people but we failed every time.
I'm sure it will be easier once it will run at a better framerate and FoV than the original game.
 

Drain Todger

Unhinged Doomsayer
True & Honest Fan
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The image in the OP triggered my PTSD. (:_(


Will they continue to over design every model and texture in the game?

You mean more ZBrush orgasms and aesthetic-inappropriate design? More violation of the established shape language and color palette of the series by making SPARTAN-IVs look like candy-colored Power Rangers?

There was nothing wrong with Bungie's aesthetics. They didn't need fixing. GEN2 MJOLNIR is butt-ugly. It's butt-ugly because it's too busy and the silhouettes are broken up and camouflaged by all the weird lines. If you're an artist at 343 and you think the "metal diaper" on the old armor looks stupid, or you think the armor is too square, you're an idiot, and I can explain why in a few seconds.

The UNSC and the Covenant have very distinctive and separate shape language. This is how you tell factions apart in sci-fi series.

When I say GDI, what do you think? Mammoth tanks. Big and square. Olive drab. White-armored spec ops. When I say Brotherhood of Nod, what immediately comes to mind? Black, sinister, beetle-like aesthetic, exposed tracks on vehicles, some real Cobra Commander shit.

Okay, now let's do the same thing for the UNSC versus the Covenant. UNSC is olive drab and square. Covenant is purple and round/triangular.

Okay, with that image in your mind, quick, what faction is this?

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"Hello, I'm violet, my backpack is triangles, my knees are circles, and my face is a pussy! They don't call it Wetwork for nothin'!"

If I had to go up against super-soldiers that looked like this IRL, I would die of laughter before anything else. Even worse, you can't immediately tell that this is even UNSC gear at all. It looks like some kind of ridiculous megacorp mascot. I cannot imagine any future military that would equip their troops with gear that looks like this. It is more decorative than functional, festooned with all kinds of bizarre curves while leaving the vitals weirdly exposed. Where is the underarm protection, preventing shrapnel from entering the lung or the heart? Where is the EOD suit-like gorget to keep them from being decapitated by a bomb blast? Where do you put spare magazines or any sort of supplies?

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Compare and contrast with Reach's armor, which looked practical, nailed the series' industrial aesthetic, and was instantly recognizable as UNSC gear.

There's actually a reason for this disparity.

Shi Kai Wang was one of the main artists responsible for the aesthetic of the armor in the series, as well as Robert McLees, Eddie Smith, Marcus Lehto, Isaac Hannaford, et cetera. Their art looks like this:

Ancient sketch of MJOLNIR armor from the fucking 90s by Shi Kai Wang, later seen in 3D form in the MacWorld '99 trailer:

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Master Chief in his MJOLNIR Mk. VI, by Eddie Smith:

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Portrait of Master Chief by Isaac Hannaford:

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Halo 4's art (and by extension, Halo 5, which mostly follows the same "nu-Halo" aesthetic) was largely masterminded by Kenneth Scott, whose previous credits include... uhh...


Before joining Microsoft Studios, Scott previously worked as a character artist at Ion Storm Inc. from 1996 to 1998 and as an art director at id Software from 1998-2008, contributing to such projects as Daikatana, Anachronox, Quake III Arena, Doom 3, and Quake 4.[4]

Oh dear. See, this is the problem, right here. If you told me that someone who'd previously worked on Anachronox, Quake III Arena, Doom 3, Quake 4, and motherfucking Daikatana was going to be an art lead on the next Halo, you know what I would've said?

"Too fucking organic. Halo isn't Warframe or Doom. Get someone who can work with squares and industrial-looking shapes."

He was also one of the leads on Rage, for fuck's sake. This is the kind of shit he does.


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We get it. You can use ZBrush to make busy, over-detailed, organic, Giger-esque shit. Yeah, really fitting for Halo.

See, all 343i would have to do to unfuck the look of the games is bring back people who know what Halo is actually supposed to look like.


TL;DR, they fucked with the aesthetic and now it sucks.
 

Dr. Geronimo

Echo chambers are bad for your health.
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So... when are we getting ODST? Though I’m feeling like I’m a freshman in high school again, waiting for Halo 3 to drop.
Just as an FYI if you sign up for their halo insider bullshit you get access to the beta. I've been having a lot of fun with it.
 

Vault Boy

Corporate Mascot of Vault-Tec.
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So... when are we getting ODST? Though I’m feeling like I’m a freshman in high school again, waiting for Halo 3 to drop.
I assume sometime after Halo 3 comes out, that is if 343 does the games in the order that they released.

I'm gonna guess that they'll also be waiting to finish up with the firefight mode to release it alongside ODST.
 

harbleglarb

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i enjoyed the gameplay of Reach well enough, but where that one shone for me was the characters. i'm sure not everyone would agree, but i really liked Noble Team. i also appreciate fiction that's okay with a character's death not being some drawn-out affair where they get a final speech or heroic moment (Kat). sometimes, especially in war, people just die without fanfare. it's refreshing for that to be shown and for it not to be melodramatic. Jorge was my favorite though.

Halo 1 is still a game very dear to my heart but man... everything from The Library on is kind of a slog. but i guess that's down to the fact i don't really like fighting the flood. their reach is longer than it looks and i don't find fighting melee-majority enemies in this style of fps to be very fun. the final warthog run is not as fast as i remembered but still a very cool way to end it.

Halo 2 feels better to me in terms of movement speed. it didn't feel like as much of a slog but there were definitely moments where it dragged a bit. also, fuck drones. by far the most annoying enemies. aside from that, the remastered cutscenes are gorgeous, and i absolutely love the way Gravemind looks in this version.

can't wait for 3 to be released. i have encountered issues here and there but nothing too egregious, so it's been a very positive experience so far. really loving the nostalgia of coming back to these games. so far, Unforgotten (Halo 2) and Overture (Reach) are probably my favorite songs from the series. but they're contending with a lot of incredible music.
 

HeyYou

YOU BETTER RUN!
True & Honest Fan
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Teaser for Halo: Infinite
It looks like the Banished will be in the game.
Huh, I thought they were going to go with Cortana as the main villain, since it's not like they can drop that whole plotline completely. I like the Banished, though, hope they don't overuse them as another fucking Covenant faction. Maybe they'll be the starting villain and Cortana will be the late game villain, or vice-versa.
 
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