Careercow Hannah Mouncey / Callum Mouncey - Failed Aussie Football player puts on a dress to play in womans league

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Hannah Mouncey, formerly Callum Mouncey is a transwoman man, who failing to qualify for any major Australian Rules Football team, decided to play second string on Australia's national handball team, where he sat on the bench for 22 games. Not wanting to give up his dream of playing in the AFL, Mouncey discovered the power of gender fluidity. In 2016, he announced his intention to start wearing a dress and wig and to then try out of the Women's division of the AFL.

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The AFL-W was (predictability) less then thrilled with this move and attempted to stop the whole thing, denying her application for the 2017 draft. Que the shrill shrieking of transphobia by cis-normative white women.

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This year she he has its demands met, and was permitted to enter the AFL-W. Love wins, but as well all know here at the farm, victory is only half the battle for people like this. And dear Callum has engaged a very active social media presence where he does battle against the evil transphobes and attempts to show just how wrong they are about him not being feminine in the slightest.
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In a lengthy statement declaring victory, Mouncey claims that science was always on her side that he is a she, and that this alone should justify granting him the right to play with real girls. You can read this exercise in sperging out here.

“So after all that; guess who’s allowed to play football after all,” Mouncey said in a tweet. She then issued a lengthy statement, where she welcomed the AFL’s decision and said she looks forward to hopefully playing this season.

“While I wholeheartedly thank those who supported me through this time, I will not and I think it would be inappropriate for me to thank the AFL for allowing me to do something open to every other Australian,” Mouncey said. “The science and research has supported [this decision] all along.

“Had we simply gone by the research at the start, we could have avoided the whole saga that has taken place completely. I am however grateful that they took the time to look at this situation properly, as it is complex.”

She added the line of questioning and “circus” around her issue over the last four months has highlighted a lack of understanding around the science of gender transition, which Mouncey understands. “But more importantly and worryingly, it showed a disturbing willingness by those who don’t understand it to dismiss research and evidence,” she said.

Mouncey called for more health support for people going through gender transition, plus their family and friends. She also feels that the issue became much more than her bid to play in an AFL women’s competition.

“Yes, the AFL may prefer that I did not exist or chose to go and do something else, but that it is not how it is and we are not people to be ignored in the hope that will happen,”

Xirs youtube statement that is brave and powerful. Also, the voice.


In another article, his coach assures people he is all woman and does not have any advantage whatsoever over natural women on the field, assuring all that science is on the side of the right (which its not btw). He even goes so far to say that being female is all about whether or not you "feel" female.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-14/mounceys-coach-dismisses-calls-about-unfair-advantage/9445400

Hannah Mouncey's coach at the Ainslie Football Club in Canberra has dismissed concerns that transgender players are stronger than other women on the field.
His comments come after the AFL ruled Mouncey was eligible to play in any state or territory women's league.

Mouncey, 28, was barred from the national AFL-Women's draft last October.

And there is still no guarantee that she will be allowed to play in AFLW next season.

Chris Rourke, Mouncey's coach, said he initially questioned how fair it was for her to play on a women's team.

"I thought oh you know it's unfair — but really it's not," he said.

"I'm a coaching dinosaur, I've been around for a long time, so it was all new to me.

"In our case Hannah is a really big person, but she doesn't play a brutal game of footy, she moves quite slowly.

"Then you realise it's a massive decision, especially in Hannah's case, it's a massive decision to come out as a woman.

"I've learnt a lot and I'm a lot more broadminded about it and realised how hard it is for these girls and people to adjust to becoming transgender."

Rourke went on to offer up some advice to other coaches on dealing with transgender recruits.

"Sit down, chat to her about her background and let her speak and what they go through and how they're feeling.

"It's just not about playing sport, you've really got to know the person and you'll realise they certainly are female."

Mister Mouncey has also gone on a revenge tour, doxing all the haters.

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Xirs Twitter
https://twitter.com/HannahMouncey

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/hannahmouncey1/

He's going into business!
https://transformcoachingandspeaking.godaddysites.com/
 
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Was not sure where to put this one. Figured here was good as the dude is claiming a changed gender identity in order to further his sports career, but it could go elsewhere.
Okay, it is going to lolcow, but could you please get some links to their social media, news stories, etc. Also, can you archive it all. Also, can you get a little more content in here? Thanks.
 

Dirt McGirt

We're gonna need a bigger boat I tell ya hwat
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>Create a giant shitstorm forcing you sports organization to sign you begrudgingly
>Start slapfights with internet randos making fun of you and try to put them on blast
>Make yourself more unlikable somehow
>Embarrass said organization further


What a way to pay back the organization that gave you a job.
 

Incredible Crisis

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Mouncey will bouncey out of their team quickly at the rate they are burning their goodwill. Then they can join an LGBT advocacy group and beg for money forever like everyone else.
 

RisingPhoenix

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What fresh hell is this

Any sane person who's seen both male and female Football knows the game is quite different depending on the gender. Male football is a *lot* more aggressive and faster paced, female version is a little more chill. I like both but the ladies game doesn't tend to go as much for tackles and hard runs for the ball. You stick someone with masculine frame in that and they gonna hurt a lot of ladies. I imagine a bunch of teams won't wanna play them knowing there's an unfair advantage too.
 

sperginity

why the fuck does a dolphin need a wheelchair?????
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Huh this is the first tranny I've seen that actually looks like they were moderately attractive before their transition.
lots of women wanted to fuck bruce jenner, what ruined his looks was getting facial femininization surgery. It just makes dudes look like they have a weirdly small face compared to the huge male skull/neck/shoulders.

Anyway, if this troon kills someone I hope he goes to jail or the family sues the AFL for negligence.
 

heathercho

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Twitter Archive (http://archive.md/0zJa5)
Facebook Archive (http://archive.md/7SmfW)
Gender Trender Article (http://archive.md/QAjV8)

Australian Football League Disqualifies Male Candidate From Women’s League Draft
October 19, 2017
https://archive.md/QAjV8/3288e2e070e1578b8f8ba29b25344aa4dfa5c30a
Hannah Mouncey
The regulatory body of the AFL has ruled to block male athlete Hannah Mouncey from competing against women in the first annual draft of the newly formed professional Women’s League.
Hannah, formerly Callum Mouncey, 27, previously competed on the Australian Handball team until 2015, when he came out publicly as transgender.
https://archive.md/QAjV8/d8ef9001d1adfca7c724bd6c6201087df997abc9
Callum Mouncey, Handball Player
Transgender people strongly identify with sex stereotypes, generally those enforced on the opposite sex, which they believe constitute a core aspect of their personalities. In Callum’s case, this meant adopting a traditionally female name (Hannah), growing his hair to a more stereotypical female length, and taking an off-label cocktail of testosterone blockers combined with high dose estrogen in an attempt to achieve a male version of female secondary sex characteristics (breast growth, softer skin, etc.)
Hannah announced his intention to transfer to the women’s handball team, which he believed should admit him in deference to his strongly held identification with female sex stereotypes.
https://archive.md/QAjV8/a4c0dd2e0bf068f48940a8b00bb997ec19e421c7
He’s a LayDee…

Callum wasn’t alone in his gender beliefs. Most people support a tradition of sex-stereotypical behaviors (Pink is for girls, Blue is for boys). And he was part of a popular burgeoning social trend: The Transgender Movement, which asserts that sex-stereotypical categories (femininity, masculinity) must be maintained by the premise that non-conformers are actually, in some way, reproductively different.
Fueled by social role anxieties wrought by the Feminist and Gay Rights movements -which either intentionally (the former) or not (the latter) destabilized traditional power relations between the sexes, the transgender ideal developed as a safety valve to prevent a potential wide-scale sex-role implosion and was implemented with every bit of fervor as the traditions themselves. Gender has never been more popular.
Before Hannah could follow through on his plan to compete against women on the handball team, something unusual happened: The Australian Women’s Football League.
Australian Football is not, as has been widely misreported, a form of soccer. It is a full contact, full body, tackle sport played with an oval ball similar to an American football. The ball is bounced, kicked and carried, and features repeated “toss ups” where the biggest, tallest players (called “Ruckers”) engage in one-on-one combat for control of the ball.
https://archive.md/QAjV8/a9b100cef738281d8202105268c2c92ad150045f
Australian Football is not soccer (and this is not a picture of Mouncey).

Australian Football (called “Footy”) is also unique in that it is wildly popular among both men and women, far more than soccer or any other sport. Fully half of the audience is female. Historians have found records dating as far back as 1876 of women and girls calling for a female football league, and local amateur women’s teams exist in many localities and are quite popular among both men and women. In 2013 the Australian Football League announced that a professional women’s division would be established in 2020, but the idea was so popular they launched it earlier than planned in 2017.
Callum Mouncey, now “Hannah”, saw the potential at succeeding in Footy that he never qualified for as a man among men. By competing against women, he could rise to the top echelon of elite Footy players in the most popular sport in Australia. He abandoned his plans to apply for the female handball team and joined a regional minor league women’s team in Canberra, announcing his intention to prepare for the first major league women’s draft. Unsurprisingly, at six-foot-two and 220 pounds of male musculature, Hannah displaced a female athlete, and under direction of the team’s male coach played as the team “Rucker”.

“I know I’m different and not necessarily in a good way or bad way, but I know I am going to be seen differently,”Mouncey said in an interview leading up to the draft.
“People have said ‘With how big you are you’ll probably hold back a bit so you don’t hurt anyone’ and I’m like ‘Well no, I’m not going to hold back, that defeats the whole purpose’.
“I had my ribs broken in my last game so I know they can hit me as hard as I can hit them and do damage. It is different and I know it is seen differently but I won’t approach it any differently.”


Like many sports body regulators worldwide, the AFL adopted the International Olympic Committee’s guidelines for transgender male athletes who wish to compete against women based on their identification with women. Technically the IOC guidelines also apply to female athletes who identify with and wish to compete against males, but unlike the many male “transwomen” competing in elite female sport: no female athlete who identifies as transgender- even those who take testosterone injections- has yet been competitive amongst males in any high school, college, regional, national, or elite competition.
Accordingly, the IOC guidelines allow women to compete against males without restriction, regardless of testosterone or other doping measures, as long as they assert a strongly held identification with biologically male persons by the transgender ideal.
Male athletes, on the other hand, are required to subscribe to the transgender ideal but also provide proof that their testosterone levels fall in the low typical male range (10 nmol/l) for the duration of one year. (Normal testosterone levels for males are 10- 35 nmol/l. For females only 0.35- 2 nmol/l.)
The IOC adopted these guidelines arbitrarily, based on their political desire to support the transgender ideal. There is no science suggesting that decreased testosterone levels (or psychological identification!) in males creates parity among the sexes in athletic competition. Rather, males who identify as transgender, although a tiny minority, have exceeded in women’s sport, even at advanced ages: Women’s Golf Champion Lana Lawless, Women’s Fell Running Champion Lauren Jeska, Women’s Cycling Champion Kristen Worley, etc.
https://archive.md/QAjV8/210231a98220571df81ddb51387e492615385652
Commentary by Mianne Bagger, a man who competed on the women’s golf circuit.

The IOC policy was largely informed by a Portland radiology technician named Joanna Harper (who is himself a male who competes against females as a distance runner) and a2004 study of sixteen non-athlete males undergoing cross-sex transgender hormone treatment conducted by Dr. Louis Gooren, who implemented the treatments being studied. Gooran’s study was never replicated, but found that this tiny cohort after one year showed a decrease in red blood cells close to female levels, and also a decrease in male muscle mass, but one that did not drop to female levels. No further changes were noted after three years.
The study concluded:
“The question of whether reassigned M-F can fairly compete with women depends on what degree of arbitrariness one wishes to accept, keeping in mind, for instance, that similar blood testosterone levels in men have profoundly different biologic effects on muscle properties, rendering competition in sports intrinsically a matter of how nature endows individuals for this competition.”
Harper’s study [PDF] was conducted over seven years and involved a mere 8 subjects, all males who competed against women after testosterone blocking. Three of the runners were national champions against women, and two were highly placed but described as “sub elite”. The study compared race times before and after hormone treatment. The race times were self-selected and self-reported. The majority were unable to be confirmed. Two of the subjects were entirely anonymous internet respondents who refused to verify their status as real people, even when their privacy and anonymity was assured. Two of the subjects showed a reduction of race times in one instance that rendered their performance comparable to female competitors in that race. One subject vastly improved his race time over his time in the male category when he competed against women. The rest fell somewhere in the middle, but for different reasons.
Male subjects whose race time dropped seemed to have other issues:
“After transition, runner four began to experience a significant number of injuries which prevented [him] from training as rigorously as [he] previously had. It is not surprising that [his] results got worse as time went on. Runner five experienced both weight gain and a loss of motivation in the years after [his] transition. In fact [his] motivation declined to the point that [he] gave up racing not long after the submission of [his] results.
On the other hand, runner seven blossomed as a runner after transition. Eventually, [he] doubled [his] weekly training distance. [He] also lost approximately 10 kg of body mass after [he] started to train harder. It is not surprising that [his] times and age grade scores showed a subsequent improvement.”
These two tiny unrepeated studies/anonymous internet surveys of less than 25 subjects in total provide no verifiable science whatsoever, but comprise the sole and only data reviewed by the IOC before adopting a male inclusion policy in female athletics that was clearly based on the prioritization of the feelings of a minute number of males over the rights of the entire female population to compete against other women on a level playing field.
Above all else, women’s sports should exist to help men achieve their dreams. The female athlete that loses her spot to a male? Disposable. Welcoming men who non-conform to sex stereotypes of masculinity into male sports? Of course not. That is women’s work.
Mark Robinson of the Herald Sun described Hannah Mouncey as a “lost soul” whom women’s sports had disgracefully failed to save, which is the mission of women’s sport:
“The AFL pats itself on the back in its promotion of inclusion and diversity and love, but sadly for Mouncey she doesn’t qualify under those parameters.
Inclusion it seems is not for everyone and frankly that is a disgrace.
It is a confusing and sad situation because Mouncey has basic human rights.
You have to feel for her.
She doesn’t want to be the face for transgender people. All she wants to do is play footy.
Colleague Alistair Paton tweeted: “Can’t imagine how tough it would be to not fit neatly into society’s idea of what gender should be. We shouldn’t make it harder.”
Can’t disagree.
Mouncey is currently a lost soul and the AFL hasn’t helped her, preferring to protect its competition instead.”
[bolding by me-GM]
Callum/Hannah Mounsy echoed this lost soul/redemption perspective in a tv interview ahead of the draft. The priority of women’s sports, the responsibility of women’s athletic leagues, is supporting males who subscribe to the transgender ideal.
“Sport really has to play a role in being accepting and supporting people through a transition because sport is unique in that it is, you know, especially men’s sport, a very masculine environment. It can be quite intimidating. And I was quite intimidated just coming out. Not intimidated… but just had no idea- I was really worried about how people would take it. But, uh, you know- they were fantastic. So I think sport really has a role to play in obviously providing support to its members and realizing just how much of an impact it can have, that each sporting organization can have , because it really can in many ways make their transition a success or a failure. Socially. And that’s a huge responsibility to have, and I think sports in general -they probably don’t know that’s a responsibility that they have, and the impact that they can have. I think the impact is the big thing. I think the responsibility to its members- I’m talking about all sports here- but it doesn’t quite understand the impact it can have on a person’s life who is transitioning. For me it was incredibly positive and had such a huge positive impact that I’ll be forever grateful for everyone involved in the sport, but it can have the exact same effect the other way. Which would be devastating.”
What would be devastating for women and girls is having their league undermined after over 150 years in the making, so that women can be battered by men in order to preserve the idea that men who want to be pretty and wear little black dresses are not actually male.
What would be devastating for women and girls is to have a society so utterly disregard them that they can’t even be centered in their own league after 150 years because some dudes have gender feels.
The AFL ended up overriding the scant, unsubstantiated IOC guidelines, for now, instead relying on existing Victorian Equality Opportunity and Human Rights Guidelines which allow for women to have their own sports on the basis of defense against unfair competition.
Footy for women, will not at this time, feature a male athlete battering women athletes who exist in the minds of many, to serve him.

Mouncey disagreeing with Kristi Miller (Transgender Athlete) - according to Callum sports need to help Troons more.

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60 Mins Interview (says some hilarious shit - apparently he's done transitioning)

 

Chiang Kai-shek

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Nothing about this person is remotely feminine.

(side note: I thought this was Callum from the Hartley Hooligan family)
 

Barbarella

Guards! To the Mathmos with this winged fruitcake.
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I’m not Australian and never heard of him until this thread. But does anybody there believe he really thinks he’s female?

I get the distinct impression he wasn’t good enough at his sport as a man and found a workaround, and will go back to make when career is over, saying, “ha ha, fooled ya!”

At least Bruce Jenner wanted to look female.
 

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