I don't think they even HAVE enough material for a third season
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Someone hasn't watch The Batman
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Stab You in the Back
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In the eyes of DC Comics, Batman's a fighter ... not a lover. In a recent interview with Variety, the co-creators and executive producers of the fan favorite Harley Quinn cartoon series let slip a scene that the Dark Knight's publishers had axed from the upcoming third season of the R-rated HBO Max show. "We had a moment where Batman was going down on Catwoman," revealed Justin Halpern, who oversees Harley Quinn with Patrick Schumacker. "And DC was like, ‘You can’t do that. You absolutely cannot do that.'"
It's worth noting that Harley Quinn has never been shy about exposing its main characters to suggestive situations. The first two seasons are filled with ultraviolence, not to mention ultra-risqué sexual material. But as Halpern notes, it helps that the main characters are all villains. "You have so much more leeway," he notes of his core cast of Gotham City's most dedicated criminals, led by Harley Quinn (Kaley Cuoco) and her girlfriend, Poison Ivy (Lake Bell).
Batman, on the other hand, is still Gotham's champion — even though he's got plenty of his own dark issues to work out. According to Halpern, DC's reaction to their proposed scene went as follows. "They're like, 'Heroes don’t do that.' So, we said, 'Are you saying heroes are just selfish lovers?' They were like, 'No, it’s that we sell consumer toys for heroes. It’s hard to sell a toy if Batman is also going down on someone.'"
Meanwhile, Bat-fans urged DC to allow the Caped Crusader to act on his urges every once in a while — especially since he's done so in the comics.
Even if there are some lines they can't cross with the Bat, Halpern and Schumacker have frequently expressed delight about how far they've been able to push the envelope on Harley Quinn in general. "It seemed maybe a little bit off-brand, this idea that we’re making fun of some of this world," Schumacker told Deadline last September. "I think since the show has come out, fans have appreciated that yeah, we’re making a lot of jokes at the expense of these characters, but it is done with love, and with a pretty deep knowledge of their legacies. And while these are sort of bastardized versions of all the characters, for the most part, they still have their core moral compass."
Yeeeeeeesh.
If this had happened in the 1960's, Halpern and Schumacker would have been hauled to jail on obscenity charges. The fact that they even attempted to put a character beloved by young children and appearing on dozens of their toys into an animated soft-core sex scene feels really creepy and "groom"y. I can understand them putting Harley Quinn into an adult show aimed at manchildren because she was conceived as a "push the envelope" character aimed at teenage fans of the original Animated series. But Batman's been around for much longer and has spent most of that time being aimed at a much younger audience. Thank God DC at least had the wisdom to realize they'd be putting their franchise cash cow at risk by letting two (((showrunners))) create porn fanfiction with it.
You say this but you conveniently forget DC thought it was a good idea for Batman to have sex with Batgirl in the Killing Joke.
Maybe the backlash on that convinced them to cut that out in the future.
Probably but lately DC and Warner Brothers have made so many dumb decisions I think they just assumed the idea of Batman having sex was repulsive rather than him fucking a teenage girl who is young enough to be his daughter and is the daughter of his friend.
I mean, Batman Beyond took the idea and made it work, but that’s mainly because it was something that had already happened and ended. We didn’t see it actually happen.
KillThemCrackasBabies
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I demand pussy eating Batman and I demand it now.
Tasty Tatty
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There is nothing wrong with Batman having sex, but this one cartoon is not proper for it.
Also, I wouldn't trust the writers with it.
Also, I wouldn't trust the writers with it.
So could this get them in hot water with DC, talking about stuff like this? I realize it’s kinda a silly question, but I’m curious.
Haven't Catwoman and Batman been fucking for years now in the comics?
Bruce/Batman has had multiple romantic/sexual partners over the years. More if you count the whole playboy persona he has as Wayne. The idea of him as a "non-sexual being" is ludicrous.
Don't really see the issue as long as they don't directly show anything. Don't pull a DC Black Label level mistake and show actual genitalia.
Bruce/Batman has had multiple romantic/sexual partners over the years. More if you count the whole playboy persona he has as Wayne. The idea of him as a "non-sexual being" is ludicrous.
Don't really see the issue as long as they don't directly show anything. Don't pull a DC Black Label level mistake and show actual genitalia.
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DC: Batman is a non sexual being
Damien Wayne: Am I a joke to you?
Damien Wayne: Am I a joke to you?
God of Nothing
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he was date raped by a vaguely arab whore
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Eh, I can see where both parties are coming from. The cartoon is pretty funny and there's a bit adult humour in it. Nobody would complain about a pussy-eating joke in The Venture Bros. and they're not really dissimilar in audience or concept. It's just that one is using established property and the other not. But that said, I think DC are probably right in calling this a bit too far. Kids are going to be watching this show. Frankly, I'm more concerned about holding up such a horrible person as Harley Quinn as a potential role model if they watch it. She's a terrible human being who got her best friend drunk (deliberately) then screwed her, wrecking her relationship.
If we're talking The Killing Joke movie, Barbara Gordon isn't a teenager in that, I think. She certainly doesn't look or sound it, anyway. And frankly, I don't see what difference it makes who her father is. Them having sex is interesting thematically in that movie because it ties in with this parallel storyline of Batgirl getting her own Joker-like figure where there's an emotional entanglement with the villain. Batman clearly sees a parallel between him and the Joker and Barbara and "Paris" (the prelude villain) developing. And his rebuffing of Barbara seems to push her towards Paris who does want her. Until they sleep together. There's a lot of subtext behind that scene. And regardless, it's two adults in peak physical condition who wear tight outfits around each other. It's hardly shocking it happens.
It also then ties into the rest of the film because it's after that Joker targets Barbara, shooting her specifically non-fatally. There's again a subtext of Joker mocking / neutralising a rival in that she becomes paralysed from the waist down and can no longer feel anything (we see the doctor poking her toes with a needle, confirming loss of sensation). He takes her away from Batman as a lover by making her unable to enjoy sex with him ever again. Again, strong thematic subtexts.
Frankly, I find these elements of the film more interesting thematically than the rest. The whole film is pretty slow and not that good, imo.
If we're talking The Killing Joke movie, Barbara Gordon isn't a teenager in that, I think. She certainly doesn't look or sound it, anyway. And frankly, I don't see what difference it makes who her father is. Them having sex is interesting thematically in that movie because it ties in with this parallel storyline of Batgirl getting her own Joker-like figure where there's an emotional entanglement with the villain. Batman clearly sees a parallel between him and the Joker and Barbara and "Paris" (the prelude villain) developing. And his rebuffing of Barbara seems to push her towards Paris who does want her. Until they sleep together. There's a lot of subtext behind that scene. And regardless, it's two adults in peak physical condition who wear tight outfits around each other. It's hardly shocking it happens.
It also then ties into the rest of the film because it's after that Joker targets Barbara, shooting her specifically non-fatally. There's again a subtext of Joker mocking / neutralising a rival in that she becomes paralysed from the waist down and can no longer feel anything (we see the doctor poking her toes with a needle, confirming loss of sensation). He takes her away from Batman as a lover by making her unable to enjoy sex with him ever again. Again, strong thematic subtexts.
Frankly, I find these elements of the film more interesting thematically than the rest. The whole film is pretty slow and not that good, imo.
Fuck you. Kite Man (hell yeah) did nothing wrong.
Was wondering why this show made the front page again and after seeomh why, I have to say I'm of two minds about this.
On the one hand batman is a maliable character who can be stuffing dynamite down someone's pants and lighting them on fire with flares and bleach one minute, then be in a cartoon that has to fight tooth and nail just to show characters using real guns but not actually killing anyone with them. So its only fair to expect him to be just as crass as the characters around him in a show for mature viewers.
On the other hand it doesn't seem like DC censored the scene out of wokeness (yet) and only did so because people are still teed off about him fucking Barbara Gordon and all the other times they let writers have him do sexual things.
On the one hand batman is a maliable character who can be stuffing dynamite down someone's pants and lighting them on fire with flares and bleach one minute, then be in a cartoon that has to fight tooth and nail just to show characters using real guns but not actually killing anyone with them. So its only fair to expect him to be just as crass as the characters around him in a show for mature viewers.
On the other hand it doesn't seem like DC censored the scene out of wokeness (yet) and only did so because people are still teed off about him fucking Barbara Gordon and all the other times they let writers have him do sexual things.
Plus it's heavily implied they both deeply regretted it there too.
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One thing about the Batman decision not talked about here was the fact that the fuckton of porn this decision got to. Best one probably being Zack Snyder making a chad move of his own & got some random comic artist who actually worked in some Batman comic once, to make a Batman "dining" on Catwoman.
This is the best version of this image I can get btw, it's a screenshot from Vero app, with the black borders above & below cropped out as perfectly as possible.
Tho that's not even the best part. The best part is that WB didn't learn from the Meat Canyon's Wabbit Season Debacle & copyright striked Snyder's photo. Among the soyboy cuckery & Anti-Snyder seething, the one thing only some noticing is that WB has made Batman being a coochie monster canon. Just like they did with Wabbit Season.
This is the best version of this image I can get btw, it's a screenshot from Vero app, with the black borders above & below cropped out as perfectly as possible.
Tho that's not even the best part. The best part is that WB didn't learn from the Meat Canyon's Wabbit Season Debacle & copyright striked Snyder's photo. Among the soyboy cuckery & Anti-Snyder seething, the one thing only some noticing is that WB has made Batman being a coochie monster canon. Just like they did with Wabbit Season.
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