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Jack Haywood

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Having read the first six books and being in the middle of the seventh, I think it's a wonderful series. What did any of you like the most about it?
 

Malady Twigs

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I do enjoy Harry Potter. I can't really pinpoint what I liked the most about it, but there are several reasons why this series has a special place in my heart.

I like the characters. I think they are solid, can be quite charismatic, and don't seem to be repetitive. For example, each antagonist has their own type of villainy, portrayed in unique, different ways. Voldemort was pretty nasty in my books until Dolores Umbridge showed up. It's amazing how Rowling made me hate an ordinary bitch of a teacher a lot more than the series' big bad guy, a psychotic murderer, but I believe many people migrated to Umbridge as well. And yet, even with all these mentions of death and torture and some other darker themes, the novels never really loose the lighthearted tone; yes, it gets more complex and serious as the series progresses, but the impact wasn't sudden; at least, I didn't feel it was. I read the books years ago, so my memory might fail.

I'm a big fan of worldbuilding. Granted, J.K. didn't create anything exactly new, but she build her universe upon the "magic society" trope and made it unique and different from other urban fantasy stories. She didn't create the idea of a magic school, but hers is the most famous. I like the idea of the wizarding world existing somewhat parallel to the muggle world, but to this day I can't figure out if they magically overlap or if one side is merely hidden from the other. I love that she's bringing more background information on the Harry Potter universe through Pottermore. I really like the tiny (sometimes useless) details and little things like the existence of magical disciplines and different kinds of magic "occupations", like herbologyst or auror. All these things open up to more questions if you start digging, but I guess that's one of the reasons why this series can be so engaging.

Of course, nostalgia is an important factor. I grew up reading these books and watching the films, and it makes me happy that Harry Potter is still relevant to the industry that they're going to turn Fantastic Beasts into a movie. Still, it's not easy for me to tell you what exactly attracts me to this series. There might be other things that I can't properly express. I don't know what J.K. did and how she did it, but it was definitely the right thing. I'm a fan of that woman. :oops:
 

Sperglord Dante

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I've tried to re-read them and I can't find them anywhere as good as I thought them to be when I was in its target audience.

Can't say they're without merits though, Rowling did build an interesting world. I like to compare her to Akira Toriyama in that they aren't terrific story tellers but still manage to get you hooked because they create interesting characters and plot devices.
 

XYZpdq

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I got into it about the time Goblet of Fire came out at the suggestion of a nerd friend, kept with it downloading them illegally asap after that.
Forget if it was 6 or 7 but I read that one from a bootleg copy where some employee brought his dslr camera, put the book on the floor of the store, and just snapped crazy high res pics of each page.

I enjoyed them enough at the time. A couple of years ago I went through them with the UK edition and was very glad to have the Kindle's built-in dictionary on the first one because holy fuck she writes like fifty time more British in that one, and when they started talking about Dudley's "knickerbocker glory" I was worried I'd have to NOPE the fuck out if Dudley was in knickers and a glory anything was involved, but then I found it it was just an ice cream sundae.

I really the setting and mostly like the characters. I can tolerate Rowling's writing to enjoy them. Last book was a slog to get through.

It's a lot like Naruto for me. I was a lot more interested in Ninja Kids having Ninja Adventures at Ninja School than I was looking for THE WAR FOR EVERYTHING, but as it shifted to THE WAR FOR EVERYTHING I kept with it.

Rik Mayall's Peeves never happening is one of the saddest things ever.

Was there ever any sort of easy theft compilation of the stupid little bits off the website?

I hope Rowling stays the fuck out of the way of the new movies and lets her ghost writers do their job.
 

OtterParty

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Jack Haywood

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DEAR GOD! Why the hell is everybody so bloody verbose?! Even in Youtube debates, I've never seen anything like this O_o
 

Judge Holden

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Rezzing this thread because the Cursed Child has been released and........sweet salty christ its bad

I mean, it is literally like rowling got high on jenkem, stapled together every shitty fanfic cliche she could think of, and released it as a book

I mean....moronic time travel plots (in which albus and scorpius go back in time to save cedric and cedric alone for....no reason at all really), hilariously stupid alternate universes (one with christmas replaced by "voldemort day"), hair brained shipping (ron/parvati and their son PAJEEET), absolute character derailment of the highest degree (harry even in his middle ages fondles a security blankie and disowns his son for not liking it, as well as neville-killing death eater cedric), and of course the "sekrit relative of main characters who was mysteriously never mentioned in the books" (Delphi Voldemort and her EEEVIL phoenix tattoo, that is a tattoo of an evil phoenix, who wants to go back in time and teach her dad the meaning of love), hackneyed forbidden love melodrama (complete with harry bullying Mcgonnagl into stopping Albus meeting Scorpius with the marauders map), deus ex machina after deus ex machina (draco's secret time machine he just happened to have on him one day), and so....SO much more.

Long story short....this is a clusterfuck of the most hilarious degree. made even funnier by the fact critics are fawning over how brilliant it is.
 

blastoiseplushie

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Rezzing this thread because the Cursed Child has been released and........sweet salty christ its bad

I mean, it is literally like rowling got high on jenkem, stapled together every shitty fanfic cliche she could think of, and released it as a book

I mean....moronic time travel plots (in which albus and scorpius go back in time to save cedric and cedric alone for....no reason at all really), hilariously stupid alternate universes (one with christmas replaced by "voldemort day"), hair brained shipping (ron/parvati and their son PAJEEET), absolute character derailment of the highest degree (harry even in his middle ages fondles a security blankie and disowns his son for not liking it, as well as neville-killing death eater cedric), and of course the "sekrit relative of main characters who was mysteriously never mentioned in the books" (Delphi Voldemort and her EEEVIL phoenix tattoo, that is a tattoo of an evil phoenix, who wants to go back in time and teach her dad the meaning of love), hackneyed forbidden love melodrama (complete with harry bullying Mcgonnagl into stopping Albus meeting Scorpius with the marauders map), deus ex machina after deus ex machina (draco's secret time machine he just happened to have on him one day), and so....SO much more.

Long story short....this is a clusterfuck of the most hilarious degree. made even funnier by the fact critics are fawning over how brilliant it is.

No. No. NOOOOOOOOO!!

JKR, are you mental?
 

XYZpdq

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Rezzing this thread because the Cursed Child has been released and........sweet salty christ its bad

I mean, it is literally like rowling got high on jenkem, stapled together every shitty fanfic cliche she could think of, and released it as a book

I mean....moronic time travel plots (in which albus and scorpius go back in time to save cedric and cedric alone for....no reason at all really), hilariously stupid alternate universes (one with christmas replaced by "voldemort day"), hair brained shipping (ron/parvati and their son PAJEEET), absolute character derailment of the highest degree (harry even in his middle ages fondles a security blankie and disowns his son for not liking it, as well as neville-killing death eater cedric), and of course the "sekrit relative of main characters who was mysteriously never mentioned in the books" (Delphi Voldemort and her EEEVIL phoenix tattoo, that is a tattoo of an evil phoenix, who wants to go back in time and teach her dad the meaning of love), hackneyed forbidden love melodrama (complete with harry bullying Mcgonnagl into stopping Albus meeting Scorpius with the marauders map), deus ex machina after deus ex machina (draco's secret time machine he just happened to have on him one day), and so....SO much more.

Long story short....this is a clusterfuck of the most hilarious degree. made even funnier by the fact critics are fawning over how brilliant it is.
holy shit I gotta download this

There's no cams of the play, right?
 

Cunty Boo Boo

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I actually really enjoyed it and had a fun time reading it and will definitely see it on stage when it comes to the US. However, I don't consider it cannon to the series and I definitely treated it like fan-fiction (which it is).

The biggest issue for me was the whole plot about the Time-Turner itself. Not the time traveling, but the fact an ultra mega super Time-Tuner existed when she said a long time ago they don't. And can't. Sooo.

I will say I really like Scorpius a lot and definitely felt the gay vibes between him and Albus. Not even conjecture, I really did think they were going to end up together.

I also liked the in this story Snape is ACTUALLY a good guy and not just "eh, I GUESS he's a good guy". He's always been one of my most despised characters from the series (even HBP-on) and I actually respected him here. So that was nice.

Also I think one of the weaker aspects was Delphi. I guess placing such a pivotal role on a character we barely get to know is what killed her for me.
 

omori

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I've been a fan of the series since I was 11, preordered the last two and went to the midnight sale for the last one, but you cannot pay me to read or see the play. I don't know who's to blame more for this train wreck, the two play writers who made bank of their half-baked fanfiction or Rowling who seems to have gotten soft over her sjw fans headcanons and ok'd this.
 

TheImportantFart

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I... actually kind of enjoyed it.

Okay sure, the time travel plot was nothing new (how many times have we seen that kind of plot?), and also that Voldemort's daughter thing was kind of stretching it a bit (seriously, when the fuck was Bellatrix supposed to have been pregnant and given birth? We're told it was before the Battle of Hogwarts, but she was prancing around slinging out curses left right and centre and I'm pretty sure even in the Wizarding world a pregnant woman can't do that) but I liked Albus and Scorpius' friendship and I think they had a decent father-son dynamic between Harry and Albus. The ending was kind of sweet too.

Bear in mind I did just finish reading it so I'm still mulling it over. I won't be seeing it on stage in all likelihood. You'd have an easier time creating a working Philosopher's Stone than getting a ticket. My girlfriend's sister and her boyfriend managed to get tickets but they won't be seeing it until December next year. I don't like going through exhaustive effort to see a piece of entertainment.
 

APerson

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I...read it.
The characterization was terrible. Nice, generous, loyal and awesome Cedric gets humiliated once, clearly by someone else, and goes all death eater. Ron's more of an archetypical joker than a character, and Harry actually wishing that Albus wasn't his son seemed way too far for the canon, family-obsessed guy. I didn't like the super!Time Turner which doesn't create open loops, and especially not the one Draco pulls out of his ass at the last second. And I hated Delphi--could you create more of a Mary Sue if you tried? Everyone loves her, she's Voldemort's daughter, she has blue hair...and finally, I'm kinda uncomfortable with any shipping of thirteen year olds, gay or not.
 

Florence

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I saw it Thursday and Friday. The actors do a pretty good job with what they've been given (though the guy who plays Albus has a hilarious voice and doesn't seem much like a 14-year old), and the effects are impressive. The Voldemort logo is incredibly fucking cheesy though; it looks like something Cobra Commander would have come up with.

The play really is that homoerotic on stage, by the way.
 

UTAU-iisms&&shit

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I enjoy Harry potter simply because it has one of the best well-written villains I've ever seen -- Lord Voldemort. I love villeins and their build up and just love to see what they'll go through the reach their end goal. Harry Potter delivered all of that and more with Ol' Tommy.

The Sequals coming out right now however are a fucking mess and I refuse to believe they exist.
 

BurningPewter

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I'm not gonna bother with the play...I read the plot summary on wiki and that was enough.

The amount of butthurt over it here has been crazy though. First people were crying, I have no way to get to London to see this, it's not fair. So they released the script so anyone can put the play on and people are saying, I was tricked into buying this thinking it was a new novel, etc.

What I don't get is how I'm not a HP fan and I knew about the play yet somehow these "big fans" saw the book on sale and thought it was a novel.
 

Dr.Research

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I got really into Harry Potter during that terrible time known as 'being 12 years old' or so. I basically felt like crap and was having friendship issues but reading the books and writing fanfiction really helped me out and gave me something to do and not stew in gross puberty feelings.
I love the characters, I love the writing, I love the world that was imagined.

I've avoided all HP material since. I'm not interested in the stage play or the Cursed Child book and from you guys say, I don't want it anywhere near me for any reason for any length of time.

I wrote a fanfiction when I was 12 or 13 where Voldemort had a lost daughter who was living on the street (and somehow Harry Potter's age) who was found and taken in by Lucius on request of Voldemort so she could become Voldemort's right hand but she eventually becomes good and makes Draco good (because they date, of course).
 

BurningPewter

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My family all read HP in the late 90s because my brother was into it and there was a media hype here in the UK that it had "got boys reading again" so I ended up reading it with them. I liked the first 3, but it was Goblet of Fire that made me an addict. I just couldn't believe such a simple series could take such a dark, complex lurch. I bought book 5 the day it came out.

It was great being a Potter fan and I bonded with 2 girlfriends through it. By the time of books 6 and 7 I was pretty much just reading them out of duty tho. I still love 5 the best. I wish I had gotten into the cosplay/fanfic/fandom side more though. I just never knew about it really.


I skimmed through the play in a bookstore and, I dunno. Harry's dialogue seems weird but I can't tell if that makes it fake and fanfic ish or actually, getting to know him properly for the first time. I'm just too over HP now.

Everyone I know is going to that expensive HP Warner Bros theme park in London, I get the train past it every week and some of the nuts I see coming out of there...(like a woman with a t shirt showing a photo of her with the scared looking Draco actor and kiss marks all over) ..make me glad I never really knew the fandom outside of thaty one girl I dated.
 
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DZ 305

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I fucking love the series. Cursed Child doesn't bother me in part because...well...its a fucking fantasy. The world is richly detailed even in the early books, you actually grow with the characters over the course of each page, they have personalities that reflect actual humans and this was a more innocent time, before the rise of social media.

I still have the original copies, the letter Amazon sent me for pre-ordering Deathly Hallows, ticket stubs from the midnight releases of the last three films.
I am hopeful that spin offs like Fantastic Beasts keep happening, a second Marvel effect. When I'm an old man, I want to be able to share this with my grandchildren, or more likely (nieces and nephews)
Reading this thread makes me want to go back and reread them all. I still remember so much...all of it.
 
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